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kamalsh56

@kamalsh56

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Posted: 6 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: HappyPlace

Smoking and drinking is what they do in their own personal space. They don't owe us any justification for that.
We gotta stop putting them on a pedestal.

Of course they have a huge fan following but they are as Human as you and I. Youth follows them but they should not be so stupid as to blindly worship anyone.

Exactly my view.

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Mishkil

@mishkil88

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Posted: 6 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: HappyPlace

He daivet culture should stop I believe.

I wonder why we as a society only worship cricketers, singers, actors and film stars.

Why not worship people who actually bring a change in society?

Someone had said it in an interview. Rather idolise those who actually brought some change like maybe doctors, farmers or scientists or teachers. We don't even know their names.

Kaam avadla, kautuk kel. Bas.
Apan blindly follow Karun mag swatahach shock Hoto jevha te regular lokansarkhe vagtat.

Smoking and drinking is what they do in their own personal space. They don't owe us any justification for that.
We gotta stop putting them on a pedestal.

Of course they have a huge fan following but they are as Human as you and I. Youth follows them but they should not be so stupid as to blindly worship anyone.

daivat not to be taken in exact seriously but meant as huge fan following. Although they do smoking and drinking in real life us that the thing to be highlighted continuously in biopic?

Edited by mishkil88 - 6 years ago

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WinterAesthetics

@DanceUntilWeDie

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+ 4

Posted: 6 years ago

#93

Originally posted by: mishkil88
daivat not to be taken in exact seriously but meant as huge fan following. Although they do smoking and drinking in real life us that the thing to be highlighted continuously in biopic?

I think it depends on the character .

Ghanekar lost it because of his alcoholism.

So it is justified.

About PuLa, I saw the film. He wasn't shown as an alcoholic but smoked a lot. Plus just 2 big scenes when alcohol was highlighted. The scene with Antu barva and the last impromptu mehefil.

The last one was way too off even for fiction. Didn't like it. So I understand why people are pissed.

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iluvusakshi

@iluvusakshi

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+ 8

Posted: 6 years ago

#94

ala re ala. objection ala. bhimsen joshi yancha mulakadun and hirabai yancha naat and natava kadun objection alay. aajchya loksatta madhe tashi baatmi ahe.

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kamalsh56

@kamalsh56

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Posted: 6 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: iluvusakshi
ala re ala. objection ala. bhimsen joshi yancha mulakadun and hirabai yancha naat and natava kadun objection alay. aajchya loksatta madhe tashi baatmi ahe.

But I am surprised at Manjrekar. With such a subject, wouldn't he have discussed with relevant families about what he is going to present and taken permission? This is normally done when doing a biopic. Of course, the only "objection" that can be taken is that the maestros are shown liking a drink. Now I am sure there will be numerous people (dear ones, close friends, disciples) who will be able to tell the actual facts... i.e. they liked to drink or they did not drink. If they did like to drink then who can object to it being shown?

And why is it being raked up now, when it has almost finished it's run in the theatres?

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iluvusakshi

@iluvusakshi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#96

Originally posted by: kamalsh56

But I am surprised at Manjrekar. With such a subject, wouldn't he have discussed with relevant families about what he is going to present and taken permission? This is normally done when doing a biopic. Of course, the only "objection" that can be taken is that the maestros are shown liking a drink. Now I am sure there will be numerous people (dear ones, close friends, disciples) who will be able to tell the actual facts... i.e. they liked to drink or they did not drink. If they did like to drink then who can object to it being shown?
And why is it being raked up now, when it has almost finished it's run in the theatres?

@bold: exactly my point. u know what..me agadi kaal- parva mhanje sunday la majhya friend la suddha hech sangitla. (jevha mukund sangoram yani loksatta chya lokrang puravani madhe lekh lihila hota and absolute post martem kela hota 'bhai' ya movie cha) ki movie release zala 4th January la. lekh lihun ala 13th jan la. mhanje almost 10 divas nantar. mag itke divas ka nahi lihila? itke divas ka nahi objection ghetla?

paise vasool zalyavarach ka awaaj uthavala gela?

he mhanje thodkyaat tya #me too movement sarakha zala. jevha zala tevhach ka nahi koni bolla. ata itkya varsha nantar hi ahsi prakarana baher kadhun kay milnar. apan attach pahila ahe na court ne kay verdict dile ahe about alok nath case.

tumhi kiti ani konti proofs dyal? ani kon ti atta accept karel?

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WinterAesthetics

@DanceUntilWeDie

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Posted: 6 years ago

#97

It insensitive to compare this Bhai drinking scenes post mortem to a movement against sexual harassment.

That's a film and the messages and criticism has been going on for a while according to mishkil and people around me. Just that it didn't reach us before. About the loksatta criticism, there are so many possibilities as to why he got it on late. He may have seen it late. Or there could be other topics more important than this to write about earlier.

Comparing that to #MeToo movement is insensitive.

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Mishkil

@mishkil88

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Posted: 6 years ago

#98

Originally posted by: HappyPlace
It insensitive to compare this Bhai drinking scenes post mortem to a movement against sexual harassment.
That's a film and the messages and criticism has been going on for a while according to mishkil and people around me. Just that it didn't reach us before. About the loksatta criticism, there are so many possibilities as to why he got it on late. He may have seen it late. Or there could be other topics more important than this to write about earlier.

Comparing that to #MeToo movement is insensitive.

who compared with me too ? There's absolutely no co-relation.

While on the topic bhimsen Joshi & hirabai badodekar's family members have demanded an apology from Bhai producers for inappropriately projecting respective persons.

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iluvusakshi

@iluvusakshi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#99

@HappyPlace, @mishkil88

i think majhi post neat vachali nahi tumhi.

me clearly mention kela ahe ki ya babtit late ka awaaj uthavala gela.

itka late ka jhale objection yayala?

insensitivity and co-relation nasanaycha muddach yet nahi. i know ki donhi topics vegale ahet.

tasach jasa @happy place ne mhantale ahe ki @mishkil88 la messages yet hote about criticisms about this movie from some days, i request u to check the date of our discussion regarding same topic on this thread.., it was around 12th or 13th jan only, ani newspaper madhe suddha article ale 13th jan lach.

tumahala ha vichitra yogayog vatat nahi ka?

dusari goshta...i doubt ki movie releas honya agodar family members /heirs na dakhavla gela nasel. karan bagha.. padmavati movie release honya agodarch kiti tari rajput (karni sena) lokani akshep ghetla hota about the movie. ahsi ajun kiti tari examples ahet.

so majha mhanana fakt itkach ahe ki late ka awaj uthavala?

Edited by iluvusakshi - 6 years ago

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kamalsh56

@kamalsh56

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Posted: 6 years ago

#100

I still don't understand what all the noise is about. The real question is whether they drank or not. If they did drink (the director/writer would have definitely checked this out) then there is nothing really to blame in the film. They have not been shown drunk and doing blasphemous things. They have been simply shown to enjoy a drink together.

If the relatives claim that the maestros NEVER drank, then that is another matter.

Edited by kamalsh56 - 6 years ago