Mahakumbh 25-28: A tale of two tables - Page 7

Originally posted by: adiana12

Shreya dear I saw the promo u referred and that tattoo on Shivanand's bald pate is definitely a replica of the one on Rudra's back - Shivanand is definitely a rakshak - and the cerebral kind 😉

As for Thapadiya Mai and her ankle tattoo - I would call her the dancing rakshak 😛😉 the kind that we tamilians call as 'pithan'

And if you want Charles decoded - well he seems more a mime artist variety rakshak 😛 😉

As for the rest - lets wait and see where their tattoos are and then we can decode them 😆

I hope this decoding was good enuff 😉

Shivanand has Garuda chinha on the back of his scalp as per new promo

Thanks Shyamala for the awesome post 👏

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Now the most significant revelation she made to Rudra was that the Saraswati Kund had dried up well before the 1989 attack by the 'Veshes on the Sri Sant Panth ashram. I had assumed that the drying up was after the attack, but now it clearly preceded the attack. A very intriguing point, that... When was this mentioned? I missed that!!

No, my dear, the Guru Maharaj is not daadi. It is too far fetched, for she must be younger than Naanu, and she would hardly have had a shishya from the rival panth...Twas just a wild guess, UN very good at making us wonder!!!

But I was amused to see your riff on Edgar Allan Poe's The Purloined Letter, with the second Book standing in full view on Naanu's bedside table!😉👏 Oh no, not Poe, I was thinking on the lines of Agatha Christie - Why Didnt They Ask Evans was called The Boomerang Clue in the US (for a very good reason 😊)

Why, Shubha, where I said it was, in Daadi's conversation with Rudra on Monday night, when she explains why she blames Shivanand for the disasters that destroyed their Panth and their family.

Poe's Purloined Letter had the original "hide a thing in plain view" stratagem. Christie of course borrowed it, but I forgot that Poe would not be so familiar to your generation!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: happychappy

Thank you, my dear Anu, and I am pleased that you enjoyed this one so much. Now be a good girl and hit the Like button at the end of the post as well!

I agree in toto with most of your very sensible comments here, especially those that I have marked in blue, and my supplementary comments are in italics.

It is interesting how much Mahakumbh makes us care about the older characters, and not just about the young leads, as in most other shows. The side roles here are very strongly etched and enacted.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Thanks Shyamala for the awesome post 👏

Seems like, After maimui's death, the vacant spot in Rudra's life is being filled by two people, even though no one can replace maimui, but felt nice to see Tapadia maa and Dadi's scenes with Rudra. They have so much love for Rudra.

I loved the bond Rudra shared with his dad the most in this show. I dont know but it seems like that was the driving force in Rudra's life. He for some reason didnt think of his mom much when he was a kid, instead always remembered his dad and that kind of got him going, or what i felt.

I loved how Shivanand longed to meet his son, its not easy to endure immense torture for 24 years so that you can see your son at the end of it(might not the only reason for enduring the torture, but one of the reason). I just want to see him meet his son, i will definitely cry buckets that day 😆 but i think its worth it.

I always wanted shivanad to be one of the garuda and seems like he is, from one of the new promo's. That kind of answers his potential to go through the torture he was subjected to. Well, I stuck to the "no garuda chinna on Shivanand" argument, forgetting that Utkarsh can turn things around any time he wants to, and so now Shivanand does have the chinna, but on his scalp! As for his unbelievable resistance to brutal torture, I agree with you,

Loved Dadi and Surekha sikri is an awesome actor and so is the actor playing Shivanand(seen him play Chanakya). Their dialogue delivery and their expressions (specially eyes) are something that cannot be missed. I am going to catch up with that Chandragupta Maurya as soon as I can.

I like Charles and somehow find its a pleasant change to see him in between this vicious fight between evil and good. Though he doesn't so far appear to be a person who is serious enough to be handed a task like saving Amrit but i guess he will go through his share of pain to get that seriousness in him or may be I am guessing all the saviors of Amrit have to have that seriousness? 😆. I like his and Katherine's interactions too, they are playful and give a little breather to an otherwise twisted story that's going on around them. Yes, they provide light relief, as in that riff on the Sholay scene (with Dharmendra and Hema Malini). I do not think a garuda need necessarily be dead serious, but he has to have the powers and he has to know how and when to use them.

I think Dr Rao and Shivanand know each other, and that's how Dr Rao knows so much about Amrit? May be they were doing the research together?. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. Now this is very plausible. Do also see one of my responses above, where I have deduced, from something Daadi tells Rudra about Shivanand, that there could be a group of outsiders, good ones, with whom Shivanand was in touch and who would still be active in trying to protect the amrit. Prof. Rao seems likely to be one of the members of this group.

Katherine is definitely not what she is seeming to be and I am waiting to see Kuba too. That story cannot just end like that. The only issue with Kuba being a garuda for me is that, Kuba seemed to be not so strong as a kid, He couldnt help his mom and asked Shivanand for help in killing his dad, but then he is a small kid so may be its not good to expect him to be as strong as Rudra was as a kid.

But Rudra at 4 was not strong, he was only withdrawn and silent. Plus he did not have anyone he loved suffering in front of him, as Kuba did. So I think Kuba, who saves his mother at one point by lying to his father that the drop of blood on the bathroom floor was his (it was actually Shivanand's), is gutsier and also very resourceful. And think if the depth of suppressed anger and hatred he copes with silently; it comes out only once, when he asks Shivanand to kill his brutal father.

Thanks once again for the post. You are very welcome, my dear!

That, Mishti,is the power of the pen!

I stuck to the "no garuda chinna on Shivanand" argument, a valid one which has not been negated even now, relying on Greyerson's strip search of Shivanand.

But I (and Greyerson! ) forgot that Utkarsh can turn things around any time he wants to, and so now Shivanand does have the chinna, but on his scalp! Well, with that mane of hair, which would have delighted the Tirupati barbers😉, no wonder, for Shivanand could have hidden a whole potli there without anyone being any the wiser!

QUESTION: How come Daadi does not seem to know about the garuda chinna on Shivanand's scalp? She mentions her husband's and Rudra's but not Shivanand's . Very misleading, and I had taken that on board as well when I nixed the Shivanand-as-Rakshak theory.

Even if he was not tonsured, which itself would be odd given his family background, surely she would have rubbed oil into his hair umpteen times when he was a boy, so how could she have missed it???

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Shivanand has Garuda chinha on the back of his scalp as per new promo

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Why, Shubha, where I said it was, in Daadi's conversation with Rudra on Monday night, when she explains why she blames Shivanand for the disasters that destroyed their Panth and their family.

Poe's Purloined Letter had the original "hide a thing in plain view" stratagem. Christie of course borrowed it, but I forgot that Poe would not be so familiar to your generation!

Shyamala

I agree, Shubha, that it looks a bit ambiguous, but I do not think Daadi would attribute the vinaash of their whole family and Panth to Shivanand's naadaaniyan.

For she knows that the attack was clearly due to the 'Veshes because of their enmity, as she thinks. Remember she says, Na jaane ki vishay ka badla le rahe the. She does not attribute it to the quest for the amrit, for she does not know about that link.

On the other hand, she does attribute the drying up of the Saraswati Kund to what she perceives as Shivanand's undue and sacrilegious meddling. This can be understood only if that was a separate event unrelated to the attack, and so it would have had to be earlier.

I must rewatch that episode, but since you have confirmed that it is Rudra's pardaadaji, why then the garuda chinna has skipped the regulation one generation and turned up with Shivanand. Rudra is of course a case apart!

Incidentally, I wonder where the term spring chicken originated. I have always wondered about the assumption that chickens are more tender in spring!😉 Unless they mean the spring of the chicken's life!!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: happychappy

I rewatched that Dadi-Rudr conversation;

She says - "Siva ki nadaaniyon ki vajah se (Saraswatikund) bhi sukh gaya aur sab kuch naash ho gaya"

The two visuals were shown in quick succession the drying up and the fire... So that may not be conclusive evidence one happened earlier in time, though I agree it leaves the cause-and-effect fairly muddled. For Dadi, the loss of the saraswati Kund is the "tragedy" so she may have put that first, and their home going up in flames comes later...😕

Btw, I am no spring chicken myself, so not Poe vs Christie is not a generational thing but simply that my reading list is less classical 😊 than yours

Edit - Also for what it's worth, per Dadi, it was Siva's Dadaji that had the garud chinn, not Rudra's Dadaji !!!