Originally posted by: Chiillii
This is not unpopular. This is quiet logical actually.
It is not even necessary for Draupadi to be infertile. She could have had daughters.
Patriarchy and toxic masculinity means men specially heroes have to be alpha males. And having a male child was ultimate symbol of masculinity. Having a daughter was as good as being impotent.
Why do you think Dasrath married 350 wives.
A lot of kids were still born, had severe genetic abnormalities and died in childhood.
Any charachter whose birth is mentioned and name given but does absolutely nothing in any critical event is most likely dead know childhood.
Eg. Balram's two sons Ulmuka and Nishata. There were so many battles that Dwarka was part of and we have everyone fighting including Pradyumna and Samva but these two guys are missing. Even Krishna's brother Gada is mentioned but these guys are not. So most likely they died in child birth.
IMO
Dhritrashtra had 5 children from all his Dussala Duryodhan Yuyutsu Dusshasan and Vikarna in that order
Duryodhan had two children 1 son and 1 daughter
Dusshasan had a son
Similarly
Pandu had 5 sons
Yudhi may have had a child Yaudheya by Devika, who may have died in childbirth and Yaudheya could have been renamed Prativindhya by Draupadi as she took on his mother's role. Maybe much later after it becomes obvious that she could not give a male heir to Yudhi.
He definetly had a daughter and since no other wife is mentioned for him could be from Draupadi. Her only surviving child
And since girls used to be married by 16, she might have been already married by the time of Rajasuya if not then after exile.
Abhimanyu did exist and died in war. All the other kids may have been born to Draupadi or other queens and may not have survived the childhood. But Prativindhya is mentioned in the dice hall. He definetly did exist but did not survive the war.
One opinion I heard was that Yaudheya / Prativindhya was given in adoption to Satyaka Yadava and he was named Yuyudhana/Satyaki.
Because he completes the funeral rituals of Pandavas in Lakshagriha
So basically Yaudheya/Prativindhya/Satyaki is the same guy and since he is already given to another family he cannot be heir of Yudhi and there fore he suggests Abhimanyu. That is one weird theory I heard.
Thankyou for taking my opinion seriously. If for once we think that Suthanu was born after the war(not sure if possible but there are women who have kids in late forties) then as HearMeRoar said, Karna's statement in the Dyut Sabha could have had actually meant that Draupadi is infertile despite having five husband (and not that she is wh**e for having five husbands like we think).
Wives without children were definitely not much important. Even the first wife of Duryodhan hardly gets any mention. Bhanumati despite being the second wife was most probably the chief queen, the only reason I could think of it is that she had children while the first wife didn't (or as you said probably only had daughters). Draupadi was unique in her own sense because she had her own importance, and not because of being someone's wife/daughter/mother, something which toxic masculines like Karna could just not tolerate and therefore tried to highlight the issues with her to demean.
@Bold definitely these are the only five who have some importance or role but hundred vs five is how the war has been defined throughout. How and why would three sons (Yuyutsu was as it is always with the Pandavas) and a daughter escalate to become 100 sons and a daughter?
Even if not hundred, Kauravas definitely outnumbered the Pandavas, I see no reason other than the ratio imbalance on why would Bheem become a bully to Kaurav brothers. Aside if we assume that these were the only kids, then whom did Bheem actually bully? We know that Suyodhan was equal in physical strength (Bheem outshined him since he was pro at other war tactics too but that definitely happened later) to Bheem so couldn't be bullied, Yuyutsu was anyway always in their favour so no need to bullied. Was his bullying only limited to Dusshashan n Vikarna? Even Dusshashan seems powerful enough to resist the bullying, so was it only Vikarna and yet Vikarna was only one to speak in Their favour when they needed the most? Not even Yuyutsu say anything
IMO Dhritrashtra did have many wives and probably they were all the sisters of Shakuni, being princess of Gandhaar they were all called Gandhaari by Vyas, later I think people confused all of them to be one and she was thought to have given birth to the hundred kids.
Yuyutsu is mentioned to be elder than both Yudhishtir and Duryodhan, so I can not say, but the deep bond that DuryDushy share makes me feel that they could have been twins
By the way, why do you think they didn't say anything to Vikarna when he was opposing them at DyutSabha?
@Underlined. Completely agreed to this part. Other four could be children of Slaves/lower Queens who died earlier and were just said to be Draupadi's.
But the question still remains the same why didn't Yudhishtir stake Prativindhya if he was there?
@Italics this opinion doesn't seem much logical to me. If Satyaki/Yudheya were same, he should have been born at least five years prior to Varnavrat else he wouldn't have done the last rites. So when did Yudhishtir marry Devika?? How much time between Rangbhumi n Varnavrat? Aside why would Yudhishtir give away his son? By then there was no Draupadi in place, they were in a palace with chances to become a monarch and they weren't very close to Yadavs by then anyway.
Aside when did Yudheya/Satyaki got renamed as Prativindhya and why? Why was Prativindhya called Draupadi's son?
Saying that his doing the last rites of Pandavas does raise suspicion, why them when Pandavas+Kunti had a big family
P.S. did Sarvang participate in the war, considering Kashi did support the Pandavas?
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