Did Draupadi really love arjun more?[DT Note Page 22] - Page 14

Originally posted by: shindes

@ AnuMP,

Exactly, there are 2 very contradictory events happening there.

In one, Vyas tells them Draupadi is destined to be wife to all 5. And Kunti knows as well, since they travel towards Panchal exclusively for swayamwar.

That clashes with infamous 'slip-of-tongue' by Kunti. Yudhishtir had left hall with twins while Bheem-Arjun were still battling, so obviously Kunti knew Draupadi was on her way to their hut.

In 'Yugant', Irawati Karve analyzsed this incident. She thinks Yudhi leaving 2 brothers battling in swayamwar hall, as the first sign of dissent and first crack in their unity- which must have terrified Kunti. Hence her words and plan were pre-decided by the time Draupadi actually arrived.

After that, of course the newly weds were left with no choice, since both Kunti & Yudhi decided to play innocent and insisted on 'preventing adharma, hence mother's words should be upheld.'

Originally posted by: ashne

Is there any mention in MB of why Yudhi and the twins choose to leave Arjun and Bheem at the arena and proceed to the forest? I have heard different versions -

that they were waiting in the forest, met up with Bheem, A and P and then continued together to where Kunti was.

The other being they were already in the hut, by the time B,A and P arrived.

Which of these are mentioned? The first instance doesn't make sense to me. Whats the point of leaving the arena and waiting in the forest. The second option, maybe they wanted to go and tell Kunti about the happenings.

We had discussed this in detail in the previous DK thread. There were citations provided also about how Vyasa told them Panchali's story and how she was destined to marry all 5. Kunti notices the reaction of all 5 and immediately proceeds to Panchal.

I'm assuming it took them some time from that place to reach Panchal. It's highly improbable that all 6 were quite during their walk after such a revelation by Vyaasa. Considering them to be a closeknit family, it would be natural that they discussed this and maybe also asked Arjun to participate, it being an archery competition.

If Vyasa enlightening them is not an interpolation then definitely all what happened after that was a drama played out for Panchali's benifit. Since they ddin't know how she would react to the situation. After Kunti's wonderful 'words', Y,A and K seemed to have put up a perfect display to convince Panchali. The very fact that Yudhi tells Drupad that its not just Arjun all of us will marry her bcoz we cannot disrespect our mom's words shows how much respect he had for Panchali and her Father. There was no option given to either of them.

This whole marriage was a calculative effort on Y, A and K's part. I'm not sure if the other 3 had anything to do with it other than just go along.

Originally posted by: mishasinghal

Thank you for this topic! I love reading citations & interpretations ..

but can we please be respectable & patient towards everybody's view points.

No point in becoming over assertive as none shall change their viewpoints for anyone..

For me, as a reader its interesting that Vyasa's words are being read & interpreted in different ways.. that's the beauty of writing.

Also on an overall basis, we all love different people and appreciate their importance in our lives.. however we do tend to have a special corner for a few - I don't know what's wrong if ArDi had it for each other.. If you have alot in common in terms of devotion to Krishna, bigger aim towards Dharma, intelligence & capability to manage every situation, it forms for a great team & you do look up at each other more than others...
In fact, the way I see it - it would be more unnatural if ArDi would not know each other's special position in their lives.. Krishna himself established them to be the MAN-WIFE.

Originally posted by: ltelidevaralak

Originally posted by: ltelidevaralak

Leave alone Arjun as he came with the bride.Yudhi and kunti's are the main players here.

Originally posted by: amritat

As per KMG, Drupad had strong wish to get Draupadi married to Arjun...but it is also written that Drupad did not share his wish with anyone...So how could Draupadi know?

Originally posted by: ashne

Is there any mention in MB of why Yudhi and the twins choose to leave Arjun and Bheem at the arena and proceed to the forest? I have heard different versions -

that they were waiting in the forest, met up with Bheem, A and P and then continued together to where Kunti was.

The other being they were already in the hut, by the time B,A and P arrived.

Which of these are mentioned? The first instance doesn't make sense to me. Whats the point of leaving the arena and waiting in the forest. The second option, maybe they wanted to go and tell Kunti about the happenings.

We had discussed this in detail in the previous DK thread. There were citations provided also about how Vyasa told them Panchali's story and how she was destined to marry all 5. Kunti notices the reaction of all 5 and immediately proceeds to Panchal.

I'm assuming it took them some time from that place to reach Panchal. It's highly improbable that all 6 were quite during their walk after such a revelation by Vyaasa. Considering them to be a closeknit family, it would be natural that they discussed this and maybe also asked Arjun to participate, it being an archery competition.

If Vyasa enlightening them is not an interpolation then definitely all what happened after that was a drama played out for Panchali's benifit. Since they ddin't know how she would react to the situation. After Kunti's wonderful 'words', Y,A and K seemed to have put up a perfect display to convince Panchali. The very fact that Yudhi tells Drupad that its not just Arjun all of us will marry her bcoz we cannot disrespect our mom's words shows how much respect he had for Panchali and her Father. There was no option given to either of them.

This whole marriage was a calculative effort on Y, A and K's part. I'm not sure if the other 3 had anything to do with it other than just go along.

Originally posted by: ltelidevaralak

Leave alone Arjun as he came with the bride.Yudhi and kunti's are the main players here.

Originally posted by: ashne

I don't believe Arjun was a fool. If all this had to happen he also had to be part of the planning process. Specially since he was also present when Vyasa told them about Panchali.