**Padmapalashakshi Draupadi - Pooja Sharma's AT**#15[DT Note - Page67]

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NONIE

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Posted: 10 years ago

#291

Congrats on 15th draupadi appreciation thread .
Sorry for posting it this late

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Maverick_me

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Posted: 10 years ago

#292

Originally posted by: LiveYourDream
Here is an excerpt from "Krishna - The God Who Lived As Man."

That day while returning to Hastinapur, Draupadi had out the blue, broached the topic.

"I
can no longer this burden of awareness...I don't know where I'm headed
but I know I want to be free of the baggage of your debts!"

What freedom was she referring to?

Both Krishna and Draupadi were aware of the baggage. The baggage of bonding...the longing for freedom...

They
realized that their relationship was drawing to an end. Uncertain about
how, where and why but both recognized that their last moments together
and unwittingly, prepared one another for the final parting...

Draupadi
invariably always sensed Krishna's innermost thoughts and feelings.
Krishna acknowledged an indescribable feeling rising within him for her.
Usually it was his privilege and expertise to read everyone's thoughts
and therefore it was out of turn for Krishna to feel transparent in
front of Draupadi...

"Was I so deeply connected with Draupadi for
her to have gauged my darker secrets..? Krishna asked himself, "Or was
it that she had determined to free me and in the process free
herself..?"

These words for me show what a deep connection they had...

Mamatha, Thank you for citing.
The words "baggage of bonding" and wanting to be free from it always intrigue me ..why did the author chose to write those? They parted only to meet , their souls met ; Did they wanted to experience how is it to be separated from each other?

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LiveYourDream

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Posted: 10 years ago

#293

Originally posted by: lnidhi30

Mamatha, Thank you for citing.
The words "baggage of bonding" and wanting to be free from it always intrigue me ..why did the author chose to write those? They parted only to meet , their souls met ; Did they wanted to experience how is it to be separated from each other?

This is one of my favorite books ...so going through that book is always a pleasure

I guess they are talking about the emotional and physical bonding that they have to the world at that point...when you are still bound to someone or something separation becomes that much more difficult right? i mean you are always wondering how your actions will impact them or the surroundings around ...which is almost like an albatross around your neck , in other words a baggage...

In some places i have read that Draupadi is the incarnation of Shree, so I guess their souls had to meet 😊

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Diala D

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Posted: 10 years ago

#294

Originally posted by: lnidhi30

Polyandrous marriages were not very common but it did exist. A woman having more than one husband is described in Rigveda

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One of her own ancestress, Panchali Bhaumashvi (Aushinari) marries 5 sons of King Nitantu of Matsya and these 5 sons found 5 kingdoms . Bhaumashvi chose them in her swayamvar, all 5 of them!! So Matsya kingdom also knew of polyandry and I feel this was one of many reasons to choose Matsya for agyatvas [ the story of bhaumashvi is listed by BORI among the many stories of previous birth of Draupadi] and these five sons lived happily ever after , after obtaining bhaumashvi as their wife - they didn't have jealous cousins like kauravas 😛

would you any theory on why Drupad created a big scene on the marriage idea inspite of Panchala history? and I want to believe that the sharing 'mishap' was a well rehearsed drama between Kunti and Yudi before AB came home with Drau..

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

#295

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

would you any theory on why Drupad created a big scene on the marriage idea inspite of Panchala history? and I want to believe that the sharing 'mishap' was a well rehearsed drama between Kunti and Yudi before AB came home with Drau..

Exactly...I too have the same idea.
Many people believe that Kunti n Yudisthir had planned everything...Although there is no definite proof of that in the text, I too find this reason quite plausible.
Bcoz Yudisthir n the twins had arrived before...the other 3 had come back later after battling with kings.
It's hard to believe that Yudisthir, who was known for his honesty would hide such an important news from Kunti, on reaching the potter's hut. How come Yudisthir n the twins reached early n said nothing to Kunti?
Kunti must have asked where the other 2 are...I dont think Yudisthir would have lied to his mother, or hide such an important news.

I am not an expert in various versions...n I know KMG does not exactly confirm this...But still I find this explanation quite plausible. Coz, if Kunti's words had been ab honest mistake, then I dont think it would have been such a big deal...or so I feel.

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LiveYourDream

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Posted: 10 years ago

#296

seems quite plausible to me too...
he must have come home and described what happened and looking at YNS's faces Kunti must have realized that her sons were so smitten with the princess that they were still thinking of her and being the shrewd woman that she was, saw the writing on the wall...either Drau becomes everybodys or it is goodbye to the Pandava unity. Hence her edict for everyone to marry Drau

Edited by LiveYourDream - 10 years ago

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

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I am not saying that Draupadi was very unhappy with polyandry...Maybe she did accept it...Nor am I saying that polyandry is wrong...I strongly believe that if men could flaunt multiple partners, then y not women? And I have talked to a history student...n she confirmed me that polyandry was prevalent at that time, especially in tribal areas...it was rare but not taboo...
But I refuse to believe that she had very happily agreed to it...It could be that she realized the prospects of being the common wife of 5...n also that she had no other way out other than jumping into fire like Amba...n hence agreed without much fuss...n wen she got married she gradually accepted her husbands wholeheartedly...
She clearly admired n respected all her husbands...but probably in her heart, felt for Arjun more, which she often ended up expressing...

How Draupadi accepted her polyandry is one thing...
But how it was imposed on her by Kunti is another...

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Diala D

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Posted: 10 years ago

#298

'my words shall not go untrue' et all from Kunti seemed over acting.. to me it is clear that they are trying to cheat.. but I dont know whom.. in any case am not trying to say Yudi was an adharmi by doing this.. or even Kunti.. that was a matter of survival for them.. I like Yudi as a strategist than a dharmaraja and I have no issue with this as this actually did Drau many favors as much as it harmed her..

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: ...Diala...
'my words shall not go untrue' et all from Kunti seemed over acting.. to me it is clear that they are trying to cheat.. but I dont know whom.. in any case am not trying to say Yudi was an adharmi by doing this.. or even Kunti.. that was a matter of survival for them.. I like Yudi as astrategist than a dharmarajaand I have no issue with this as this actually did Drau many favors as much as it harmed her..

Exactly!!
Everytime I read that portion, it seems so fake!! If it really had been an honest mistake, then I dont think it would have been a problem to take back those words...Wat really intrigues me is how Yudisthir is so enthusiastic in convincing Drupad of sharing the 'gem'...I am not criticizing Yudisthir but only pointing out wat I felt while reading those parts...

Indeed Yudisthir was a master strategist...He was the most intelligent n cool-headed of all the Pandavas.
Although I do not agree with many things he did...it cannot be denied that he was brilliant in strategizing...Lakshagriha, Shalya taunting Karna, etc are the examples of that.

And this polyandry did serve Draupadi in many ways...She became the Queen...had an unchallenged position in the household, etc.. .She probably made other women like Bhanumati jealous...all this can be attributed to the polyandry.

But then again, she got objectified again n again, suffered a great deal bcoz of her husbands' inaction n got humiliated for bring polyandrous n possibly had a lot of complications in the matters of the heart...So yes, polyandry did have both negative and positive sides for her.

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Maverick_me

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Posted: 10 years ago

#300

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

would you any theory on why Drupad created a big scene on the marriage idea inspite of Panchala history? and I want to believe that the sharing 'mishap' was a well rehearsed drama between Kunti and Yudi before AB came home with Drau..

That Dhrupad did not know Panchala history is out of question ; the princess Bhaumashvi was a descendant of Ushinara a Rajarshi from Srnjaya group of Panchala ; Srnjayas are cousins to Somakas whose descendant was Dhrupad

Since you talk about theory, or rather ask:

Then my theory:

Even though he knows his family history, where is it said that a father should not be apprehensive ; Drishta goes berserk hearing this and this would of course happen to a protective father and a brother ; Dhrupad knows it as history but when something like that comes to his own door step he would want to be extra careful/protective about his daughter and that is why the deliberations.

Vyasa reminds him of various previous lives of Drau one of which is the story of Bhaumashvi; which is listed by BORI as 'other' stories

How fathers are apprehensive about their daughters marriage and well being is expressed by Sita as well, in her conversation with Anasuya , saying 'a father though might be the greatest man on earth but will behave like a common man when it comes to finding a(worthy) groom for his daughter ...

and if you already want to believe that it was a drama staged by Yudi then so be it ; I have my own reasons not to , also of what consequence is my answer to if you already want to believe otherwise but even then you have my answer.😊

I only want to say that Drau was never a victim of polyandry and if she was called names in dyut sabha because she was married to many ; she doesn't necessarily becomes that ! Saying that (she was a victim) according to me is the under estimation of the strength of her soul, her character.

Vashishtha dharma sutra says "A woman is never unchaste even if she is taken by force, confined by meanest of persons and hence should never be abandoned by her care takers"

and you already know how someone spoke in epic😆 then I will not go into it either😉

#just asking

You subscribe to the staged drama theory going by Satya Chaitanya's article?

Edited by lnidhi30 - 10 years ago