Bigg Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread - 23rd Sept 2025
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
I've always disliked calling Karna a "tragic hero", because media has exaggerated the tragedy of his life, when in reality he had a happy life with kind parents and siblings. He had the friendship of Hastinapur's royal family and was gifted a kingdom for free. Yes, he struggled, but his life was not all tragedy. Calling him a "tragic hero" is actually an insult to him.
Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
Moreover, Karna was not a perfect character. He did have good qualities, and he was a better than Duryodhan in personality, but he was also the one who instigated Duryodhan to disrobe Draupadi by calling her a wh**e who slept with five men at once. He was also one of the six warriors who had disarmed and killed Abhimanyu.
Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
God too used illusion to kill the Kauravas not because they were invincible (who can be invincible for God anyway), but because they deserved it. Remember, Lord Krishna's motto always was "tit for tat" which is basically another term for karma. Those who defeat/kill others using unrighteous means also meet their end the same way, and the Pandavas were simply Krishna's tools to eradicate the world of evil. Bhishma, Dronacharya, Dushashan, Shakuni, Karna and Duryodhan all killed their opponents unethically, so they too met their end in an unethical way. It was their karma playing out. Saying they were invincible is meaningless, because not even Ravan, who was the strongest rakshasa in all the three worlds, was a match for Lord Ram. How could any of the human kings of dwapara yuga be too invincible for Krishna?
Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
Also, Kunti never asked Karna to spare the other Pandavas and sacrifice himself. She asked him to switch sides and join with his brothers, but Karna told her that was impossible. Still, since she had come to ask him something at sunrise time, he could not deny her completely, so he said he'd spare four of her sons but not Arjuna, and in the end of the war, she would have five sons, whether the fifth be Karna or Arjuna. While Kunti committed mistakes as a mother and did act selfishly at times, she was not that evil that she'd tell Karna to go die and spare his brothers. She was a flawed mother, but she was still a mother who mourned the fact that one of her sons would die.
Originally posted by: bobbiswas
One point on Karna ...
Yes he gave his Kavach and Kundal knowing that it was Lord Indra. But it was not a donation .. It was a sell (barter system). He asked for Shakti ashtray in exchange. So he sold his kavach and kundal against Shakti ashtray. Pure donation would have made him Mahan. But he just wanted to kill Arjuna knowing that he is his brother and then he hide those facts from Duryodhana, who actually trusted him most. He could actually kill all the other 4 pandavas, but spared them. Now that was something real 'bishwasghatak' to Duryodhana. Since Duryodhana was an evil we all didn't mind what he did.
Originally posted by: bobbiswas
So Karna apart form being abandoned by Kunti never had any hurdle to face, He was a jealous person with sole ambition to prove that he is the best. He became king, knowingly kept on supporting all evil deeds of Duryodhana (never tried to rectify his friend). Told so many bad words to Darupadi and then finally ditched Duryodhana as he gave Kunti promise ...
Originally posted by: bobbiswas
One point on Karna ...
Yes he gave his Kavach and Kundal knowing that it was Lord Indra. But it was not a donation .. It was a sell (barter system). He asked for Shakti ashtray in exchange. So he sold his kavach and kundal against Shakti ashtray. Pure donation would have made him Mahan. But he just wanted to kill Arjuna knowing that he is his brother and then he hide those facts from Duryodhana, who actually trusted him most. He could actually kill all the other 4 pandavas, but spared them. Now that was something real 'bishwasghatak' to Duryodhana. Since Duryodhana was an evil we all didn't mind what he did.Why Parashuram cursed him? Because he lied to his guru for getting ashtray sisksha. Parashuram used to hate Khastrias, so he would have never been his teacher (though I wonder why did he trained BHeeshma then !!!!). So again karmaphal.Yes there was pure injustice with Karna and that was done by Kunti. It was a kind of paap which is beyond any mercy. But pandavas should not pay for this. They were not at fault.Now Arjuna killing Karna when he was weaponless ... So form which angle it became rule that only Pandavas need to follow all process?Remember this same Karna was part of killing weaponless Abhimanyu ... a young brave kid ... killed by so called 6 Maharathis when he was weaponless. So this was his Karmaphal.One thing which Starbharat showed, but not part of original MB was the Thakshak stuff. No Karna never asked Takshak to help him kill Arjuna. It was Ashwashen, Thakshak's son, who without telling Karna entered his arrow. Next time again he wanted to enter his arrow but that time Karna straight away refused and he went to killed Arjuna on his own, when Arjuna killed Ashwashen.So Karna apart form being abandoned by Kunti never had any hurdle to face, He was a jealous person with sole ambition to prove that he is the best. He became king, knowingly kept on supporting all evil deeds of Duryodhana (never tried to rectify his friend). Told so many bad words to Darupadi and then finally ditched Duryodhana as he gave Kunti promise ...