Que Sera Sera - Page 2

Originally posted by: -Shani-

Exactly...😛

Varaali, don't tell me you missed out on the epi when (Star)Krishna told (Star)Panchali -

"Tumhare paanch patiyon ko chhodkar Maharaj Shantanu ke saare kul ke deepak bhuj jaayenge iss yudh mein..."

And that is how (Star)Panchali got prior info about the outcome of the war from her sakha.

But all of it seems quite weird to me...

On the one hand, (Star)Krishna actually reveals the outcome of the war to (Star)Draupadi beforehand...

But, on the Kurukshetra battlefield, Arjun gets all panicky about the consequences of the war, but Krishna tells him - "Karmanye vaadhikaaraste..."

Different strokes for different folks?

Precisely so I guess.

He was dealing with two different individuals with distinct temperaments and purposes. Arjun was his principle instrument and student on that battle field who was receiving an initiation into Karmyoga( and a lot more ). So for him it was "Act irrespective of the consequences". Whereas with Draupadi it was more like "Act in spite of the consequences".

I could be wrong but this is how I try and convince myself of coherence and come to terms with the highly creative star scripting😆.

yes, their fates were indeed sealed, and they all did that for themselves, think about it, had duryodhan agreed to the proposal of krishna and gave the five villages to the pandavas, the war wouldn't have happened, but no, his pride got the best of him and he insulted krishna, on that moment his fate was sealed.

Arjit Bhai, I am of the opinion that God gives us free will and we have to live with the consequences and ultimately answer for them when we meet our Maker. If things are always preordained, creation would become a cosmic joke.

Originally posted by: Arijit007

nice post, cots, before we talk about the feuture, i must ask,is feuture realy easiely forseeable? why shal we look at it? why shouldn't we do our own tasks or follow our duties? "jo bhi hogaa shubh hi hogaa sab usi ki yojanaa."

Originally posted by: thearcher

Arjit Bhai, I am of the opinion that God gives us free will and we have to live with the consequences and ultimately answer for them when we meet our Maker. If things are always preordained, creation would become a cosmic joke.

yes, it is our own choice that makes our destiny.

then again we can't see the bigger picture.

Originally posted by: Sadhana_pr

Precisely so I guess.

He was dealing with two different individuals with distinct temperaments and purposes. Arjun was his principle instrument and student on that battle field who was receiving an initiation into Karmyoga( and a lot more ). So for him it was "Act irrespective of the consequences". Whereas with Draupadi it was more like "Act in spite of the consequences".

I could be wrong but this is how I try and convince myself of coherence and come to terms with the highly creative star scripting😆.

Originally posted by: Arijit007

yes, their fates were indeed sealed, and they all did that for themselves, think about it, had duryodhan agreed to the proposal of krishna and gave the five villages to the pandavas, the war wouldn't have happened, but no, his pride got the best of him and he insulted krishna, on that moment his fate was sealed.

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

Thanks TomNJerry and ShrishtiSIngh for your comments.. So you feel its not pre-ordained and we decide our own future within framework of Karmic laws.

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But do you think MB also preach the same ? As thearcher rightly pointed out SB is very clear on this. Drau s already told everything.

Varaali, in Geeta, Lord shows all Kauravas (including Karna. Bheeshma) etc being dead already and also points to Arjuna that he is safe from all this. He asks Arjuna to slay who are already dead.. Does it not indicate that the fate is already sealed/pre-decided ?

to b honest I am a bit of opposite to concept everything is pre decided and it cannot b changed. I remember reading or watching somewhere that future is not set in stone.yes it may or can b predictable but that's solely based on human present actions or nature. but saying that oh this will happen only and it cannot b prevented is what I call weakness or surrendering.

Originally posted by: thearcher

Arjit Bhai, I am of the opinion that God gives us free will and we have to live with the consequences and ultimately answer for them when we meet our Maker. If things are always preordained, creation would become a cosmic joke.

My personal bent of mind causes me to rebel against any form of authority unfortunately😆. I am a Christian, and our commandments are very clear on God's ultimate authority. So, I have reconciled myself by thinking that God lets me have enough rope to either hang myself or rescue myself😆 (Metaphorically. I am not suicidal😆)