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Posted: 11 years ago
Ya star karna too much got insult by others.cv will show him just as Normal way ..becoz karna was a main key in mahabaratha .but starbharath only showing him as time pass character. .to watch very annoying..poor star karna aham is very talented actor cv is wasting his time 😔
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Sailuja its like after Draupadi came into the life of Hastinapur they forgot all about Karna...instead they remember everyone except him!
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Posted: 11 years ago
leave others even duryodhan insulted him calling sutaputra who was supposed to be his best friend, adhirath has shame having him as son , vrishali keeps him accusing for no solid reason , vrishali was supposed to be his only peace who understands him but here she stops a warrior from going to battlefield? even she is more concern about Draupadi than her husband

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Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Even if Duryodhan might have had some hint that Karna's real father was Surya, he couldn't have had a clue that his mother was Kunti


Originally posted by: Rorschach

Also, Contrary to polupar believes, Dury did have slight understanding of Karna lineage.

Excerpt taken from Karna-Parv secred thread:

"'Duryodhana continued, "Having obtained all the celestial weapons and the boons that had been desired by him, Rama bowed unto Siva with his head. Obtaining the leave also of the gods that great ascetic went away. This is the old story that the rishi had recited. The descendant of Bhrigu gave the whole science of weapons unto the high-souled Karna, O tiger among kings with delighted heart. If Karna had any fault, O lord of Earth, the delighter of Bhrigu's race would never have given him his celestial weapons. I do not think that Karna could have been born in the Suta order. I think him to be the son of a god, born in the kshatriya order. I think that he was abandoned (in infancy) in order that the race in which he was born might be ascertained (by his features and feats). By no means, O Shalya, could this Karna have been born in the Suta order. With his (natural) earring and (natural) coat of mail, this mighty car-warrior of long arms, resembling Surya himself, could not be borne by a common woman even as a she-deer can never bear a tiger. His arms are massive, each resembling the trunk of a prince of elephants. Behold his chest that is so broad and capable of resisting every foe. Karna otherwise called Vaikartana, O king, cannot be an ordinary person. Endued with great valour, this disciple of Rama, O king of kings, is a high-souled personage.'"

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

If any Scholar provides the Shloka in which Karna is defeated by Bhima during the Rajsuya, I will happily accept it. If that Shloka is provided, My logic will be in the guttar but for now the logic is taking over.

But use some mind for gods sake, Bheema was the biggest enemy of Duryodhana, his rival, Why would he keep Karna if he got defeated by Bhima? wouldnt duryodhana kick Karna out?, Anga was a part of Hastinapur, in alliance, attacking Anga would be like waging war with Hastinapur as well, People seem to lose logic sometimes.



Can we discuss this in this thread below or elsewhere? B'cos some of the assertions can easily be refuted, but doing that in a Karna AT would be unflattering. For instance, Bhima gave Shalya a can of whoopass in Draupadi's swayamvara, but that didn't stop Duryodhan from contriving to get Shalya to defect to the Kaurava side.



Anga was an independent kingdom once Duryodhan made Karna the king, and then became a vassal of the Pandavas, and again regained its independence once Yudisthir lost Indraprastha. That's what Karna implied when he told Krishna that he had been ruling an independent kingdom for 13 years.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rorschach

The other misconception people have that Arjuna killed Vrishasena in front of Karna, is totally wrong.

It is clearly mentioned in Karna Parva that unsupported by any one Vrishasena fought with Arjuna and Arjuna fired arrow at him while saying those blah blah words that took his life.
Please note that before fighting with Arjuna, Vrishasena was fighting with mojority of Pandavas warrior single handliy.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

Can I have the Parva number or section, Link will also do, I have to read it to clear my doubts.



Citation has been provided in this thread {| Karna's battles: source KMG |} so let's discuss it there.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

When Bhima said who can be staked against Arjuna, Dury said Angraj Karna, Bhima said a "soot putra" will compete against a Rajkumar?, Then Karna said a man who kidnaps a lady from his marriage is Raksash not a Rajkumar and he said the word "Durachaari", IDk the meaning of that word.

And yes Dury ordered Arjuna to give his Gandeev to Karna but when Arjuna offered his gandeev, Karna refused it saying that his Dhanur vidya is Divya



I actually loved this scene, and especially, Karna objecting to being staked. And Arjun voicing Karna's acquiescence - another disguised KaJu moment.

I also liked Karna declining Arjun's bow. How could Duryodhan later tell Arjun that his bow was in Karna's hands, when Karna hadn't accepted it in the first place?

Diala, can you do an avi of Arjun bowing b4 Karna & offering his bow? Needed for pg 1. Oh, and thanks for the Sishupala siggie - being used!!!! 😆
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...


yeah need more and also consistent.. not on and off.. now am afraid of Adiratha uncle and Vrushali didi 😕



In this serial, Adiratha was always ashamed of Karna from day 1, and Vrushali doesn't have the remotest pride in what he's achieved. Why at all did she marry him?

The Lili angle is even more annoying than KaJu
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

this Adiratha uncle for being so ashamed of Karna can very well tell him that he is their adopted child? Karna can go in search of his real family.. you are right Candid.. both are villains of his life 😕

Originally posted by: Havvii

i totely hate tht dialouge muje use putra kahte hue lajja aa rahi hai. I mean seriously?? Then may be u feel proud when ppl people insult your son. Tht is dharma foru u.
I neva like vrushali in ths show. Agree she become trouble for karna.
Hope those sasur bahu dont meet karna before war



Precisely, it's not like Karna is born to him - he can disown him anytime, and let Karna find his real parents.

So should Vrushali divorce Karna once she finds out that he's Kunti's son? Or won't she find out b4 his death?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

Is uncleji bonded to HP via any vachan? he can very well leave to ⭐️IP or even ⭐️SouthIndia to become a charioteer of a Chozha king..



Weren't the Pandyans the ones running the south? There is mention of Ashwatthama killing a Pandyan ruler on day 16 - one who considered Bheeshma & Drona his inferiors 😕

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