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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: shani88
Did Krishna himself believe that Yudi was as guilty as Duryodhana, Dushasana, Karna, and Shakuni in the whole dice game/vastraharan incident?
I mean, we can deem anyone as guilty, but it is Krishna's word which would matter in the end in the context of the story itself...

That's a good question! I'd like to know if Krishna ever talked to him regarding this matter.

Edited by -Shruti - 11 years ago

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Diala D

@...Diala...

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Posted: 11 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: -Shruti
Actually a wife is considered to be her husband's property, so Draupadi had become a slave already as Yudhisthira had lost himself too. Technically he had no right to stake her then.

that is still an unanswered question.. no one in the sabha except Vikarna could answer Draupadi.. no one else addressed this.. neither yes nor no.. it is not that others dint know.. Yes will be harsh, No will be a little lame..

she need not have been staked explicitly after her husbands have been won.. unwanted suggestion by Shakuni.. Yudishtar would have not been in the right mind to think about Draupadi or Devika when he staked himself.. so when Skahuni suggested he should have thought 'let me try'..

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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

#73

He kept on thinking the same and lost everything!

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: ...Diala...
<font color="#006600" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">also, I dont think it will make any difference to this generation where most of the related restrictions arealmost extinct.. or atleast the CVs might think so and skip it..
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Srishti.. it was repeated often in BRC..</font>

I understand diala mostly for today gen it will not not b so big matter but I assure u the place I belong too,there still this thing will b a big boo boo.in brc they used that word many times,but at that time I dint understand and ignored it.but kids nowadays are smart atleast my lil bro is

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smrth

@smrth

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Posted: 11 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: amritat
B.R. Chopra's Mahabharat cooked up a dialogue for Draupadi:-
"Andhe ka putra andha"

N a whole generation of people, who are too lazy to read the real epic, believed this dialogue like "andhas" n some of them actually believed that Draupadi deserved to be disrobed, firstly due to the "Sutaputra" comment n then the "Blind son" comment.

N now, this Star Plus serial, is cooking up another dialogue for Draupadi:-

"Shashtra le lijiye inse"

N again, a whole new generation (who don't bother to read the real epic) will once again believe this fiercely, that Draupadi compared Karna to demons( as shown in the serial during her Swamvar) n took away weapons from Duryodhan, n hence got disrobed.

As if taking away weapons, is the same as taking away clothes from a menstruating woman in public.

This is what distortions do to viewers.

Indeed. There is already whole bunch of 'poi' fiction feeding a lot of nonsense. Seen quite a few believing in them. Just look at the distortions it is creating in its wake. With uglier implications. Whole rationale of the Punishing acts compromised with reasons from the original events flipped. Glossing over the evil deeds and exempting the culprits. Heroes proportionately compromised as 'vindictive' marauders; Can one now justify 'fratricide'? Or the one who advised, encouraged and approved it? Look at the implied twist. Lord himself in the seat of convict and offenders acquitted.

The creative license! So can they be lauded such licentious distortions? Especially concerning an epic that built the fabric of society for millennia. In a medium which reaches to gullible millions?? Who cares. Let us watch the parody.🤢

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#76

yep I agree many people donot try to know authenticity of the stuffs while counter arguing but I put that fault mostly on individual person because as per me if u are having debate with somebody on some topic u should put the arguments based on something that's more authentic or say according to this I am putting forth this argument.
@smrth ur English is really good

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smrth

@smrth

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Posted: 11 years ago

#77

^^^

Of the four main reasons why he was condemned to ignominious death, two Major ones are already flipped upside down in this serial. In one- Varnavat plot- not only he was exempted, rather actually showed 'opposing' it!!...Now vastraaharan😕... Look at the gloss.

How would one argue citing the 'authentic' source, while debating on narrative of this serial? Other than pointing out the distortions? And so here, shell we brace for a 'cheating' murderer Arjun?😕

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#78

@smrth don't tell me I am dreading for that day 🤢

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Justitia

@Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#79

Was the vastraharan per se a "pre-planned" thing in the original story?

I know there was plotting involved in the dice game, but was the vastraharan itself "pre-plotted" too? In other words, in the original epic, had the Kauravas actually "planned" to do the vastraharan, completely irrespective of whether Yudi staked Draupadi or not?

Or was the call for the vastraharan given only AFTER Yudi staked and lost Drau?

Why am I asking this? In the promo, Duri's line of "...hum uske vastra utaarenge..." actually gives me the impression that the CVs have already planned a horribly nasty surprise for Draupadi in HP, completely irrespective of the result of the dice game.

So, does it mean that in Starbharat, Yudi could get the blame for ONLY staking his bros, but whatever happens to wifey, will be blamed squarely and squarely on Duri himself (since he has ALREADY said "...hum uske vastra utaarenge...")?

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Arijit

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Posted: 11 years ago

#80

ohh hell, both andhe ka putra andha and that new dialogue are both not a valid reason, but who would make the mass understand? they always blame the victim anyway, insted of fishing out the reasons for justification they must show the real reasons of this heinous act.

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