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Arijit

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Posted: 11 years ago

#41

@daya manic, they were just chakki mein phanse huye ghun.

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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Arijit007
@daya manic, they were just chakki mein phanse huye ghun.

Just like crops suffer when the bulls fight i.e. Kisi nirdosh ko bina karan kasht jhelna pade.

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Neutral2

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Posted: 11 years ago

#43

Draupadi and bhim laugh at dury loudly. Draupadi was a character of revenge. Dury taunt her before that she was characterless woman. Thats why draupadi taunt him son of blind. Another princess and dasiya unable to controll their mild laughing until yudi stops them.

Shahdev warned yudi before dice game that it was trick and position of planet is not good. But yudi said he couldnot deny the offer of war and dice game by another chatriya as per chatriya dharm.

All pandav were nude by dury in dice game. Thats why karn said that there is no adharm to brought draupadi nude in the hall as she is no more than vaisya. Vikarn was the only one to speak against it and leave the hall.

Acc to one legend shahdev was the luckiest person because he never mock karn or dury or anybody. He treat all person, living creature as same just like written in bhagvat gita. Thats why destiny favoref him. He can win against mama shakuni in dice game but he didnt participate because of his moral that one may lose his entire earning in few minute. Dice game is only meant for entertainment.

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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

#44

The "Son of a blind..." taunt isn't mentioned in the original text! In fact, the text doesn't mention Draupadi particularly, laughing at Duryodhan. Bhima and Arjuna are mentioned though.
Actually, even I laughed while reading the particular part. 😆

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: shani88
Before anything happens, Draupadi's sons have to be born...and I don't think it will be possible to show the birth of all five sons.

Therefore, during the last week or March or something, I think CVs might reveal her 1st pregnancy, and then "kuch samay baad", during which all the remaining kids would've been born.

And after the "kuch samay baad" thing, we could have an invitation coming to IP about the dice game...

Of course, all of this is just speculation on my part. Let's see what they show...

Draupadi won't have sons - having a Pandava putra is only Subhadra's job, as per this serial. Not including Bhupati Ghatotkacha.

Only in ⭐️bharat could they steal the concept of leaps from other serials

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: shani88
Yes, Duryodhana fell in the water in the mayasabha. But exactly who laughed at him?

This is the KMG translation (Sisupala-Badha Parva Section XLVI)-
"Vaisampayana said,--"That bull among men, Duryodhana, continued to dwell in that, assembly house (of the Pandavas). And with Sakuni, the Kuru prince slowly examined the whole of that mansion, and the Kuru prince beheld in it many celestial designs, which he had never seen before in the city called after the elephant (Hastinapore). And one day king Duryodhana in going round that mansion came upon a crystal surface. And the king, from ignorance, mistaking it for a pool of water, drew up his clothes. And afterwards finding out his mistake the king wandered about the mansion in great sorrow. And sometime after, the king, mistaking a lake of crystal water adorned with lotuses of crystal petals for land, fell into it with all his clothes on. Beholding Duryodhana fallen into the lake, the mighty Bhima laughed aloud as also the menials of the palace. And the servants, at the command of the king, soon brought him dry and handsome clothes. Beholding the plight of Duryodhana, the mighty Bhima and Arjuna and both the twins--all laughed aloud. Being unused to putting up with insults, Duryodhana could not bear that laugh of theirs. Concealing his emotions he even did not cast his looks on them. And beholding the monarch once more draw up his clothes to cross a piece of dry land which he had mistaken for water, they all laughed again. And the king sometime after mistook a closed door made of crystal as open. And as he was about to pass through it his head struck against it, and he stood with his brain reeling. And mistaking as closed another door made of crystal that was really open, the king in attempting to open it with stretched hands, tumbled down. And coming upon another door that was really open, the king thinking it as closed, went away from it. And, O monarch, king Duryodhana beholding that vast wealth in the Rajasuya sacrifice and having become the victim of those numerous errors within the assembly house at last returned, with the leave of the Pandavas, to Hastinapore."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m02/m02046.htm

Duryodhan really sounds like someone in a video game who has to guess the right move irrespective of surface 🤣

But didn't believe in slowing down to guess what was where 😆

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: -Shruti
Wasn't Yudhisthira aware of the fact that Shakuni can never face defeat?

Question I have here: why did Yudisthir agree to the game? Was it

As a kshatriya, he had to accept any challenge, no matter whether it was advantageous to him or not?
He had to obey his taatshree (something emphasized in BRC's MB)

B'cos even w/ challenges, there were rules. If Duryodhan had a proxy, Shakuni, Yudisthir too should have asked for the right to have one. If Shakuni was cheating, Yudisthir should have challenged the game & stopped right there. I recall the big argument we all had in the thread about Yudisthir a few months ago, and some Yudisthir supporters pointed out that as a Kshatriya, he had to stake everything he could to win back what was lost.

But why couldn't Yudisthir refuse to play until the terms & conditions were equal? As it is, Indraprastha was an independent kingdom (talking about the original epic here, not ⭐️bharat.

When Krishna meets them in the forest, he tells Draupadi of how he would have urged Yudisthir not to play. In which case, how does the argument that whatever Yudisthir did was dharam stand?

Originally posted by: ...Diala...
he did not know Shakuni will play on behlaf of Duryodhan.. he though Dury will play and he can win Hastinapur.. this last minute change happened when he was not in a position to withdraw..

Why was he not in a position to withdraw? One can't change any rules in the middle of a game, but once he knew that Shakuni is casting the dice, he could have stopped it right there

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: -Shruti
Starbharata will distort this track surely, as usual!
Since they have flipped the characters of Karna and Vikarna, it'll be interesting to see that who protests.

In the original, Vikarna only protested against Draupadi being staked after Yudisthir had lost himself: his protest was against Yudisthir, not Duryodhan. Karna however scolded him b'cos he was spoiling their fun of being able to do anything they liked having explicitly won her.

Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago

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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Why was he not in a position to withdraw? One can't change any rules in the middle of a game, but once he knew that Shakuni is casting the dice, he could have stopped it right there

I wont expect a King's ego to agree in the filled hall that he feels he cant win Shakuni.. he claims Shakuni plays foul but does not stop the game.. again this I find his ego stopping him.. or in nicer terms he dint want to behave childish..

I no way meant he was in Dharma Sankat which I think will be the word used by Yudi in the show..

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#50

@Diala - So, does it basically mean that it was actually Yudi's ego that was getting hurt when he realized that he was losing everything that was getting staked by him? And like a true Kshatriya, he didn't want to back out midway...

Again, this will be quite inconsistent with the way ⭐️Yudi's character behaves in ⭐️Bharat.

In the rangabhoomi (tournament) track, when Duri insulted Kunti, and Yudi got angry, he withdrew immediately when he realized that his anger was getting the better of him - didn't "Kshatriya dharma" matter to him when he withdrew midway?

And the rajyasabha incident, when ⭐️Yudi basically became a smart-mouth...

So if he can do all this in ⭐️Bharat and take the "right" action at the "right" time and opportunity on the previous occasions - Kshatriya dharma or no kshatriya dharma - I see NO justification for him to go all the way as far as the dice game is concerned...

Edited by shani88 - 11 years ago

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