Mahabharat Episode Discussion Thread #3/ DT's Nt pg 46/ 124, 132

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Thanks, Dial. Just saw it.

Holy Zeus!🤣🤣 So, I guessed correctly though I didn't watch those episodes b4...He asked to control the time of his death so he could live till someone with both Samarth and Dharam together sat on the throne again. I was guessing at that based on the last few episodes! My friends are right...Dang!

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OK let me con't my watch and see if I was right about the rest.

PS - Poorva abhaas sky tha uss din bhi? So is Sahadev following P's footsteps?😕

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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

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@Anjana: Which friends are right? I dont think all of us are in the same page.. The river sky chemistry was excellent CG.. I liked..

@Shyam: who is that Fiala di? 😆

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: ...Diala...
@Anjana: Which friends are right? I dont think all of us are in the same page.. The river sky chemistry was excellent CG.. I liked..

@Shyam: who is that Fiala di? 😆

My real life friends complain/pull my leg about my ability to figure out the plot (i.e. who is villain, what will happen next, ending, etc.). It drives them crazy that I can solve any movie so fast😎 Its a curse because it leaves no mystery for me - i find most movies predictable and unoriginal for that reason.

The river sky was too similar to Sahadev's abhaas moments. He is so tiny that's why he couldn't catch up... don't ask me about the trip fall!

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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
My real life friends complain/pull my leg about my ability to figure out the plot (i.e. who is villain, what will happen next, ending, etc.). It drives them crazy that I can solve any movie so fast😎 Its a curse because it leaves no mystery for me - i find most movies predictable and unoriginal for that reason.
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The river sky was too similar to Sahadev's abhaas moments. He is so tiny that's why he couldn't catch up... don't ask me about the trip fall!

👏 for that 😆

dont know why they brought in such a short guy while Draupadi is a tall girl.. I dont have any complaints on his performance though..

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Per StarBharat episode 2:

1.GPB vowed never to reproduce or have family of his own

2. He would serve the throne of his father.

Lastly, he asked for boon that would allow him to pick the time of his death - so he could protect the throne till it went to someone who has both Samarth and Dharam.

Let's play this out now against the last few episodes:

On Feb 18th Episode: He said it was his "pran" to walk ahead & protect the king of hp on the path of dharam and to stand and object if king of HP if he was doing "adharma". And he reiterated that his "pran" was to reunite dharam & samarth on the throne. So, he would raise arms if there was "adharma" on the throne. So, no internal inconsistency in that episode. Its consistent with episode 2.

Today (Feb 24) he said his vow has value because of Yuddhistir. This statement makes complete sense as GPB believes that only Yuddhistir who after generations has both Dharam (himself) and Samaarth (his brothers).
He also said with the splitage of the kingdom he would like to go with Yuddhi. OK - so he is theoretically still with the throne since he can't be both with Yuddhi n Dhrit at once and will go with Yuddhi. Even with Yuddhi he would be serving the throne. So, no internal inconsistency here in that with the country splitting he is serving the throne whether he stays with Dhrit or goes with Yuddhi. Moreover, his "pran" remains inviolate. In Yuddhi's half of the kingdom there will be both Dharam & Samaarth on the throne. So, while he can't die as the whole of the throne does not sit a ruler who has both samarth & dharma - 1/2 of it does.

Tomorrow Dhrit will blackmail him into always siding with Dhrit & Dury in exchange for Indraprast for Yuddhi. No internal inconsistency there. He is still serving throne albeit the weaker 1/2 of it, which does not sit someone who has both dharma & samarth.

The Problem - Dhrit's 1/2 of the throne will become outright adharmi, but he won't be able to object because of his promise to side with Dhrit & Dury in exchange for Indraprast.

Is this internally consistent?

he is still celibate n no progeny - check
he is serving the throne of his father - check (albeit throne is now split)
he is living to reunite samaarth & dharma on the throne - check
he is keeping promise to side with Dhrit & Sons - check
so the only inconsistency is blue above

In sum, we end up at the same place as if he had vowed to BLINDLY serve the throne and see Shantanu's image in whomever was the ruler. B will now remain mum during vastaharan. The makers have thus ended up at the same place as BRC & other versions - they just use a different route to the same roundabout.

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago

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AnjanaYYZ

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Originally posted by: ...Diala...

👏 for that 😆

dont know why they brought in such a short guy while Draupadi is a tall girl.. I dont have any complaints on his performance though..

They wanted to playout the Ambitabh song about "biwis" with Draupadi - switching gender of course... so she got ek lambu ek nattu ek goodlooking ek dharmi aur ek future flirt😛

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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#1117

Originally posted by: ...Diala...
@Anjana: Which friends are right? I dont think all of us are in the same page.. The river sky chemistry was excellent CG.. I liked..

@Shyam: who is that Fiala di? 😆

Fiala Di is the new Diala Di.

There is a perfectly illogical reason behind this.

Now, you are pretty much in love with Aham Sharma aka Karna right. So if we look at the mathematical derivatives of the the words Aham, Sharma, and Karna

Aham = I (this makes sense since we factor out the a = a(h*m), and h*m = 104 and a = 1 (since it's the first letter in the alphabet. we add up all the numbers and we get 6, we have 3 non zero numbers = 9. 9 corresponds to the letter I

Sharma = This one is a tricky one, but it's a similar thing: a(s*h*r*m) = 35568. adding them all up gives us 27 + 5 non zero digits = 32. Now there is no letter that corresponds to no. 32, so we repeat the alphabet: 32-26= 6; 6 = F

And finally Karna. same thing: a( k*r*n) = 2772, add them up and get 18 + 4 non zero digits = 22 = V

Now we look at your name: Diala = a(D*i*l) = 432, add them up and get 9, add the non zero numbers and get 12 total. Now since most people call you Diala Di (which includes a D and i), we have to add an extra 1 (adding a 2 would be suggested, but it cannot be used because there is a proof behind it and I said so). Anyway the new total is 13 = M

Now the awesome part. we have three first names (Diala, Karna, and Aham), so what do we do. We add them up and get 44. subtract 26 (because of the alphabet) and divide by three since there are three first names. the result is 44 - 26 = 18 / 3 = 6 = F

Now, just so you don't have a doubt, we can also take aham and diala (names that exist in today's society, Karna = ancient india) and add those together = 22. Now, we want to subtract that number from Karna's derivative = 22. The result is a zero, and we are left with an F.

Thus, I have mathematically and quite logically linked you with Aham Sharma aka Karna and hence your name has changed from Diala to Fiala because of this new finding.

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Logical reason - I was typing on my phone and diala became fiala and it was too much of a hassle to change it. 🤣

EDIT: I can't believe the illogical reason worked out 😆 😆😆

Edited by shyam09 - 11 years ago

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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

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based on the pre-cap ... Dhriti references that he wants power to be with him and when Bhishma asks him to clarify, Dhriti tells him that in any condition Bhishma cannot leave Dhriti or Duri + brothers side.

This doesn't (IMHO) justify Bhishma's silence during the Vastraharan (perhaps we will find more info tomorrow). Based on just this promo, Dhriti is more worried about expecting an attack from the pandavas (hence the reference to the power .. which both Duri and Dushi are fully aware of thanks to Shakuni). Even if we go by the literal translation (of my broken hindi 😆) which I mentioned above, this doesn't mean that Bhishma supports them blindly. Bhishma can and should still give advice when it is important, and I'm pretty sure he isn't a silent spectator to everything Dury does in Ganguly's (of course he doesn't such an odd promise, but you get the point). After all, he was the eldest Kuru and the most respected (despite what this crazy show is showing us).

I think that Bhishma himself went into some sort of temporary mental shock when he heard Yuddhi first stake Nakul / Sahadev and then Arjun / Bhim. Perhaps he was thinking if Yuddhi was the proper King to begin with... and as such wasn't able to think.

Not sure about Drona though... but seeing as Drona and Drupad never became friends again, it would be easy to think that Drona didn't care all to much about Draupadi ... but that still doesn't explain why he wouldn't stand up for the Pandavas wife ... who after all were the ones who captured Drupad... ahh... this doesn't make sense!!!!

Of course, there is one reason that is highly Kali yugic in thought and nature -- and that is that they wanted to see the disrobing of such a fine lady (since Draupadi was the most beautiful women in the world) ... of course this doesn't fit their character, and this reason is probably more damaging than whatever SP can cook up. So I'm just going to decrease the font ... and apologize to everyone. Sorry folks. Even I don't like that reasoning, but sometime you have to mention it for the sake of refuting it.

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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Anjana.. My comments in green..

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
Per StarBharat episode 2:

1.GPB vowed to give away his throne to Satyavati's son and for the sake of the Satya's upcoming generations, he will never reproduce or have family of his own

2. He would serve the throne of his father. Vow is clearly to be the servant of Hastinapur not about father's throne. Difference - movability.

Lastly, he asked for boon that would allow him to pick the time of his death - so he could protect the throne till it went to someone who has both Samarth and Dharam. Correct but remember this is his wish and not a part of his vow. also as per this his service is supposed to be with the region that does not follow Dharma and have Samarthya

Let's play this out now against the last few episodes:

On Feb 18th Episode: He said it was his "pran" to walk ahead & protect the king of hp on the path of dharam and to stand and object if king of HP if he was doing "adharma". And he reiterated that his "pran" was to reunite dharam & samarth on the throne. So, he would raise arms if there was "adharma" on the throne. So, no internal inconsistency in that episode. Its consistent with episode 2. Not inconsistent but non-connected to his actual vow.. his vow has nothing to do with Dharma Adharma.
Today (Feb 24) he said his vow has value because of Yuddhistir. This statement makes complete sense as GPB believes that only Yuddhistir who after generations has both Dharam (himself) and Samaarth (his brothers). No for the same reason stated above
He also said with the splitage of the kingdom he would like to go with Yuddhi. OK - so he is theoretically still with the throne since he can't be both with Yuddhi n Dhrit at once and will go with Yuddhi. Even with Yuddhi he would be serving the throne. Two options.. (1) He can be neutral considering New HP + IP = Old HP (2) he can stay with Dhrid's Desh which is legally still Hastinapur.. No way he can side with Yudishtra as Kandavaprastha is neither logically nor legally the same as Hastinapur..
In sum, we end up at the same place as if he had vowed to BLINDLY serve the throne and see Shantanu's image in whomever was the ruler. B will now remain mum during vastaharan. The makers have thus ended up at the same place as BRC & other versions - they just use a different route to the same roundabout. This vow was as blind as BRC's and without this Dharma Adharma Shastra utao drama also he could have still sided with Dhrid sparing these two three episodes for some other fictional track

Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: shyam09

Logical reason - I was typing on my phone and diala became fiala and it was too much of a hassle to change it. 🤣

EDIT: I can't believe the illogical reason worked out 😆 😆😆

Thanks for the logical reason 😆 dint understand anything dat u said previously 😆