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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: panchaali

Well you got me wrong, by "Sadly" I wanted to mean fortunately


The writer's work is a great piece of literature

why he wrote a book on Duryadhan to learn about that you need to read the preface of the book, or you can talk to him directly in twitter.

P.S:- I don't think he wrote the book just for publicity





so u agree with the book or you just like it as a piece of literature?

i read it and it has conveniently excluded the heinous crimes of duryodhan to show him a so called kind, animal/human rights activist and why is caste discrimination blamed on pandavas when it was started by dron and other elders? lol shakuni is the scapegoat there and as if duri is a kid who does not have any brains, he is totally free of all his disgusting crimes. lol he is not even responsible for his own choices.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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really interesting one... thanks for sharing this... Every character of this great epic has shades in them..thats what makes them so interesting...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: john909


so u agree with the book or you just like it as a piece of literature?

i read it and it has conveniently excluded the heinous crimes of duryodhan to show him a so called kind, animal/human rights activist and why is caste discrimination blamed on pandavas when it was started by dron and other elders? lol shakuni is the scapegoat there and as if duri is a kid who does not have any brains, he is totally free of all his disgusting crimes. lol he is not even responsible for his own choices.


I take Vyasa Mahabharat also as a piece of literature...

I have not seen those incidents through my eyes...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Certain aspects of Duryodhan's hatred towards Pandavas were understandable from the POV of ancient kingdoms and politics. Mortal rivalry among siblings and cousins was the most common thing to the point where queens employed maids and eunuchs to poison and abort the children of the rival queens to ensure a clean way for themselves and their kids. The great Ashoka born to a lesser queen murdered each one of his siblings and step-brothers and their children before ascending the throne of Magadh.

In such an age there's a kid whose father has been denied the kingdom for his physical handicap and his uncle, the king, dies in a forest under mysterious conditions. His other uncle forced his father to stand down the throne and wanted him killed as an infant because of the supposed bad omens. He has no good reason to trust his family elders. Everyone knew Pandu was impotent but one day his wife turns up with 5 kids who are now deemed as the heirs with Duryodhan himself being pushed to the same oblivion his father was, second fiddle to those who for all he knew were not his brothers at all (How many would buy Kunti's story of Pandavas being the children of gods?). His parents are blind and depend on external support for daily chores. His elders and teachers favour the pandavas. He has no real mentor to turn to. But he won't swallow the insults the way his blind father did. He is determined to fight and take back what he believes to be his by hook or by crook.

Also it must be noted, contrary to what ⭐️bharat showed, Duryodhan was never a tyrant or exploiter. His venom was directed solely against the Pandavas and hardly against anyone else. When he was struck down unfairly by Bhim and Balram declared him as a nobler warrior than the Pandavas and blessed him with eternal bliss in heaven, the gods showered flowers on him (sorry, ⭐️Bhishma). Following which Krishna and Pandavas withdrew from the place with their heads hung in shame.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sindu_gurti

duruyodhana can fight for his right...but the path he did choose was wrong..its not the elderst son should be throne.😲..its the elder among the grandsons should be throne the king..if i am not worong yudhistra was the eldest...cfan i ask you one thing., when pandu left everything behind for his brother...shouldn't they consider his thayag..i will tell you the real mahabharath is not to justify the wrong deeds...its all said to think about our jealousy., about our itcha to conquer., its all about humans itcha...i can never accept duryodhana as a nice person...he can never be...but every person as a good quality like pure friendship...so you feel for his just one nice quality he should be spared...


Pandu felt guilty for doing Brahman-Hatya so he left i guess. Had his son be old by the time it happened, he would have been made the King probably, not Dhritarashtra.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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so one gets heaven for molested, abusing, disrobing and disrespecting women in public...in a hall filled with women? Sorry...i dont agree with you...even if Duri did 100 good deeds, yet his single evil deed of molesting Draupadi fails him 1000more good deeds... Clearly his jealousy and his revenge were more important than being fair... He tried to poison Bheema...took away the rights of Pandavas...even if he had given 5 villages saying that he gave it in daan...the war would not have happened... he not only took away the right of Pandavas...but also disrespected the entire Arya clan including Kuru and Padavs..it was a shameful incidence for everyone... and even if one was a slave, it doesnt give the master a right to outrage her modesty... even if the laws were different at that time...bt women were given the place of Ma Durga and Lakshmi...and nobody could ever dare to disrespect the goddess! I dont knw and dont care whether Duri went to heaven or not...but for me he was utterly wrong...and wats wrong is wrong and that cant be changed...whether anyone portrays him as a hero or even as a god!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh hey everyone who dies on the battle field gets heaven you see.
You would be happy(or outraged) to know that king kansa too got heaven. So ... 😆
indra told yudhi that the people whose sin outweights their good deeds get heaven and after their punya is exhausted they are sent in hell.
while the people whose bad deeds outweights their sins get hell first and after that they are sent to heaven forever.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I often wonder that those who put their wife at stake in gambling and were quietly standing watching their own wife get molested were any deserving of heaven too.. ofcourse Duryodhan is no hero.. n i guess most of us agree to that .. n thats the reason he died so brutally in the battle.. as a lesson to the world..that this is the end one meets when one's sin crosses all boundary.. but if there is a perspective which tries to find answer to why was he like this...n what ultimately led to his destruction..n was there any other shade than just being evil .. and whether or not he was just a plain evil character.. then i dont see any wrong in that perspective..since righteous ones here were not perfectly right too.. what makes Mahabharat an interesting epic is the fact that people can question,analyse and take something from this... from good they can take what to do..from evil they can take what not to do... and good and evil portion existed in almost each of character except Lord himself- that is what makes them grey instead of pure white and black... It was just that evil in some crossed its threshold while good in some retained more and came out more strongly..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

I often wonder that those who put their wife at stake in gambling and were quietly standing watching their own wife get molested were any deserving of heaven too.. ofcourse Duryodhan is no hero.. n i guess most of us agree to that .. n thats the reason he died so brutally in the battle.. as a lesson to the world..that this is the end one meets when one's sin crosses all boundary.. but if there is a perspective which tries to find answer to why was he like this...n what ultimately led to his destruction..n was there any other shade than just being evil .. and whether or not he was just a plain evil character.. then i dont see any wrong in that perspective..since righteous ones here were not perfectly right too.. what makes Mahabharat an interesting epic is the fact that people can question,analyse and take something from this... from good they can take what to do..from evil they can take what not to do... and good and evil portion existed in almost each of character except Lord himself- that is what makes them grey instead of pure white and black... It was just that evil in some crossed its threshold while good in some retained more and came out more strongly..


so far pandavas going to heaven is concerned, they deserved it despite of their mistakes. being humans mistakes are bound to happen but one who has the strength to accept those mistakes, correct them or pay a price by doing prayaschit or taking punishment, is truly a person on side of dharma. so comparing duri's deed and pandavas deed makes no sense because former never had any shame and never paid for any of his deeds (except in the battle) but the latter never saw any kind of peace for long term till duri was alive.for every mistake they made, they paid heavily and even learned from those mistakes that is why krishna was with them. that is why they are called righteous. righteous does not mean perfection, it means person has strength to stand by dharma and if mistake is made, they have the strength to accept it and also take any kind of punishment. anyways

you r right about mahabharat epic. it really is something. it shows the middle ground between evil and good in such an elaborate way. it shows human flaws, strength etc. there is not a single human trait that was not shown in this epic.. love it. although dont understand why star has to ruin some of the characters
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: panchaali


I take Vyasa Mahabharat also as a piece of literature...

I have not seen those incidents through my eyes...


ok. thats interesting so does that mean you do not believe in history at all because it is impossible to see yourself.😊 and how can someone just write up something like Gita (which is the ultimate knowledge of dharma)?

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