The Silencing of Draupadi - Page 2

Originally posted by: peridot.

That's quite possible. Anything that was felt against the prevailing sentiments could have been tampered with.

I noticed those lines where draupadi complains bitterly to Krishna that he did not help her during the dice game. That goes against the popular version of Draupadi being swathed in robes by Krishna and also raises doubt about the disrobing event.

I think what draupadi meant by 'help' is that krishna never avenged this then and there and now is talking about peaceful negotiations without war.

draupadi wants a revenge for her insults . its like if someone stabs you the doctor will heal it by applying first aid and bandage to stop the wound getting worse. here krishna wrapped draupadi in long garment and thus helped in the situation getting worsened (draupadi ending up facing the court all nude.. which would be even worse.).

But as they say the wound is heeled but the mark never leaves your body. So what draupadi wanted was very severe punishment to her wrong doers (death) and that would never would have happned if the war did not happen and everything was settled peacefully. Because for her becoming the queen of hastinapur or indraprastha was not at all the matter, ever since her insult in the court room all she wanted was punishment for her wrong doers. She never desired the kingdom as such. But for pandavs it was majority the kingdom that they wanted back. They were Kshatriyas and by their dharma they were only bound to take up profession of ruling and becoming kings. They were therefore ok with just five villages to rule, Panchalis' insult was not their major objective to wage a war. if it would had been then they would had included this in their peace treaty. Like for example "all the wrong doers of panchali who molested her in the court should profusely apologize to her and accept what punishment she decides for them " would had also been one of the clauses of the peace treaty.

It is therefore that draupadi questioned krishna that has everyone including you forgotten my insult?

Her silence in this part as mentioned intrigues me the most... A fiery woman lyk her kept mum on such a crucial matter... Whatever be the reason , nothing comes above self-respect and dignity...

Originally posted by: simplysappy

Her silence in this part as mentioned intrigues me the most... A fiery woman lyk her kept mum on such a crucial matter... Whatever be the reason , nothing comes above self-respect and dignity...

exactly and thats why i feel the original epic has been tampered with...oh how I wish video cameras were alaready invented then... i could see the entire footage of what really happened and the news channels would post it as breaking news...😉

@lovesunshine : n how I wish dat ur wish comes true ... 😭

Originally posted by: lovesunshine

good one @rasyafan😉 see there are flaws in every individual...god made men and women differently...while men exploit with their physical power women expolit with their mental power..like a mother in law exploits her daughter in law by emotionally troubling her and making her insecure that she is no match for her son and making her insecure which results in the daughter in law always doubting her husband's honesty towards her (because she is insecure that her husband may find another woman better than her) resulting in arguments , fights between the couple

vice a versa when mother in law (MIL) becomes very old the daughetr in law (DIL) may never like to take care of her ...just ebcause she has all those old insults in her mind which she can never forget...


Thats our where karma comes in if we just follow it we will be on the right path...so if the D-I-L just follows that its her karma to look after the old parents of her husband as thats one of the vows she took during her marriage. So even if the MIL never followed her karma and the DIL will follow, her soul would shine brighter and she would be more closer to god 😊


coming to this topic it is discussing and pointing out that the content in the holy texts must have been tampered and changed..

True dear but though everybody likes to preach about karm, few follow it. Personally, I believe a woman,s worst enemy is another woman whether a MIL or DIL or another woman or nand jaithani bhabhi, devrani, etc. But just think how much life would be easy for a woman if she gets support of another woman. Especially, after her marriage. All mothers and daughters support each other. But like before it used to happen mother in law would look after her grand children and rest while her daughter in laws would take on the responsibility of house hold. Mother in law and sis in law would stay at home the other DIL will go to market to get vegetables or go to her kids school for parent teacher meeting. One would make break fast one would wash clothes or do house work other will cook lunch or dinner the other will serve food to men folk. One will give milk to everyone before bed. Then one would sit with kids to do home work. Economically would too it would be easy on men they would collectively give their wages to MIL and she would save a lot of money after taking out the cost of the house hold stuff.

Think life can be so easy only if women would just learn the art f adjusting with others and to respect and to curb their jealous traits 😉😉😆

Why only women? Men too can be considered as the worst enemies of men . Only issues would differ in their case. Its more about power equations then any specific gender issue.

Originally posted by: rasyafan

True dear but though everybody likes to preach about karm, few follow it. Personally, I believe a woman,s worst enemy is another woman whether a MIL or DIL or another woman or nand jaithani bhabhi, devrani, etc. But just think how much life would be easy for a woman if she gets support of another woman. Especially, after her marriage. All mothers and daughters support each other. But like before it used to happen mother in law would look after her grand children and rest while her daughter in laws would take on the responsibility of house hold. Mother in law and sis in law would stay at home the other DIL will go to market to get vegetables or go to her kids school for parent teacher meeting. One would make break fast one would wash clothes or do house work other will cook lunch or dinner the other will serve food to men folk. One will give milk to everyone before bed. Then one would sit with kids to do home work. Economically would too it would be easy on men they would collectively give their wages to MIL and she would save a lot of money after taking out the cost of the house hold stuff.

Think life can be so easy only if women would just learn the art f adjusting with others and to respect and to curb their jealous traits 😉😉😆

oh how I wish what you said happens..but now i feel sensible families now are slowly following the above and helping out each other. just that women should give up the mentality that "bahu toh ghar ka kaam karne ke liye hee aati hai"...because i think the kindness housld start immediately when a new bride comes to her sasuraal...if you alienate her or try bully her, she will definitely keep this to her heart and reciprocate because we all are after all human being of kaliyug..

I think also the men should support the women in their lives...most of the times men just give all this a blind eye and go out at the pub when all the fights n arguments r happening..

At times the bahu does feel like she is a slave...

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True dear but though everybody likes to preach about karm, few follow it. Personally, I believe a woman,s worst enemy is another woman whether a MIL or DIL or another woman or nand jaithani bhabhi, devrani, etc. But just think how much life would be easy for a woman if she gets support of another woman. Especially, after her marriage. All mothers and daughters support each other. But like before it used to happen mother in law would look after her grand children and rest while her daughter in laws would take on the responsibility of house hold. Mother in law and sis in law would stay at home the other DIL will go to market to get vegetables or go to her kids school for parent teacher meeting. One would make break fast one would wash clothes or do house work other will cook lunch or dinner the other will serve food to men folk. One will give milk to everyone before bed. Then one would sit with kids to do home work. Economically would too it would be easy on men they would collectively give their wages to MIL and she would save a lot of money after taking out the cost of the house hold stuff.

Think life can be so easy only if women would just learn the art f adjusting with others and to respect and to curb their jealous traits 😉😉😆
oh how I wish what you said happens..but now i feel sensible families now are slowly following the above and helping out each other. just that women should give up the mentality that "bahu toh ghar ka kaam karne ke liye hee aati hai"...because i think the kindness housld start immediately when a new bride comes to her sasuraal...if you alienate her or try bully her, she will definitely keep this to her heart and reciprocate because we all are after all human being of kaliyug..

I think also the men should support the women in their lives...most of the times men just give all this a blind eye and go out at the pub when all the fights n arguments r happening..

At times the bahu does feel like she is a slave...



True yaar a mother in laws first duty is to welcome her daughter in law and I have a firm belief that a daughter is really parai but DIL is your own family. Mother in Law and Daughter in law should be more close to each other rather then Mothr n daughte but this is happening today. Today mother interferes in her married daughters life teach her wrong.

Support and interference are two separate things. Always teach your daughter chahe ghee se chupri mile ya fir sookhi mile you have to adjust with your in laws.

I know many people would disagree with me but this is my firm belief.

Once MIL teaches her DIL how to run her house then she becomes depended on her DIL she starts looking towards he for support while giving her support when it comes to her grand children.

But I have seen where DIL don't give a damn about her in laws, her husband totally lattu on her. Sadly, men must keep a balance between his mother and wife. Not support anyone on the wrong.

Giving and taking respect is the key for well adjusted relationships.

First in laws must adjust then DIL must adjust and mould herself according to her house. and Not expect her MIL to give up her grehasti since her marriage and to listen to her rather then vice versa. Whatever anyone say a DIL has to learn to live and adjust according to her in laws house while at the same time try to gradually make changes which suit her as well a everyone in the house.

DIL must remeber that when kids come both MIL and FIL as well as chhote nand devar can be a huge help and when she becomes like that then she becomes authority in the house after her mother in law even FIL also listens to her and sare bhabhi bahu ke aage peechhe ghoomte hen.

Dil jeetna asaan nahi to impossible bhi nahi.

I don't like nuclear family. You feel so lonely sometimes and a mother in law can be a huge support.

😆 😆 I know it is an ipossible tast people think but no it is not both MIL and DIL can be best friends. I have seen this. Very rare phenomena though😆😆

Dear rasyafan i agree...its always both and vicious circle like a chakravyuh..it needs to be stopped somewhere..a lot of patience and tolerance is required from both the sides...you wont believe it last week i had been at a children's function where the children were perfprming a skit abt their duties to their parents.. and in it their was the same saas bahu situation where the husband goes out to his friends place for advice and his friend who is apparently a learned gyaani advised him - dialogue goes this way " arey dekh aisa samajh tere parents 1950's ki gaadi ka model hai aur teri wife 2013 ka model hai..toh 1950's ka model toh repair nahi ho sakta but 2013 ka toh repair aaram se ho sakta hai,tatparya teri wife ko samjha ki usko badal na hoga".

I was shocked and the kids performing this were mere eight to ten year olds...imagine teaching something like this to such young kids..😡

Originally posted by: rasyafan

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True dear but though everybody likes to preach about karm, few follow it. Personally, I believe a woman,s worst enemy is another woman whether a MIL or DIL or another woman or nand jaithani bhabhi, devrani, etc. But just think how much life would be easy for a woman if she gets support of another woman. Especially, after her marriage. All mothers and daughters support each other. But like before it used to happen mother in law would look after her grand children and rest while her daughter in laws would take on the responsibility of house hold. Mother in law and sis in law would stay at home the other DIL will go to market to get vegetables or go to her kids school for parent teacher meeting. One would make break fast one would wash clothes or do house work other will cook lunch or dinner the other will serve food to men folk. One will give milk to everyone before bed. Then one would sit with kids to do home work. Economically would too it would be easy on men they would collectively give their wages to MIL and she would save a lot of money after taking out the cost of the house hold stuff.

Think life can be so easy only if women would just learn the art f adjusting with others and to respect and to curb their jealous traits 😉😉😆
oh how I wish what you said happens..but now i feel sensible families now are slowly following the above and helping out each other. just that women should give up the mentality that "bahu toh ghar ka kaam karne ke liye hee aati hai"...because i think the kindness housld start immediately when a new bride comes to her sasuraal...if you alienate her or try bully her, she will definitely keep this to her heart and reciprocate because we all are after all human being of kaliyug..

I think also the men should support the women in their lives...most of the times men just give all this a blind eye and go out at the pub when all the fights n arguments r happening..

At times the bahu does feel like she is a slave...



True yaar a mother in laws first duty is to welcome her daughter in law and I have a firm belief that a daughter is really parai but DIL is your own family. Mother in Law and Daughter in law should be more close to each other rather then Mothr n daughte but this is happening today. Today mother interferes in her married daughters life teach her wrong.

Support and interference are two separate things. Always teach your daughter chahe ghee se chupri mile ya fir sookhi mile you have to adjust with your in laws.

I know many people would disagree with me but this is my firm belief.

Once MIL teaches her DIL how to run her house then she becomes depended on her DIL she starts looking towards he for support while giving her support when it comes to her grand children.

But I have seen where DIL don't give a damn about her in laws, her husband totally lattu on her. Sadly, men must keep a balance between his mother and wife. Not support anyone on the wrong.

Giving and taking respect is the key for well adjusted relationships.

First in laws must adjust then DIL must adjust and mould herself according to her house. and Not expect her MIL to give up her grehasti since her marriage and to listen to her rather then vice versa. Whatever anyone say a DIL has to learn to live and adjust according to her in laws house while at the same time try to gradually make changes which suit her as well a everyone in the house.

DIL must remeber that when kids come both MIL and FIL as well as chhote nand devar can be a huge help and when she becomes like that then she becomes authority in the house after her mother in law even FIL also listens to her and sare bhabhi bahu ke aage peechhe ghoomte hen.

Dil jeetna asaan nahi to impossible bhi nahi.

I don't like nuclear family. You feel so lonely sometimes and a mother in law can be a huge support.

😆 😆 I know it is an ipossible tast people think but no it is not both MIL and DIL can be best friends. I have seen this. Very rare phenomena though😆😆


bold i think before matching the husband and wife's kundali mil dil ki kundli milani chaiye then its possible 😆😆😆😆