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Posted: 11 years ago
With all those flowers & pollen, they could at least have made it a bee and made it more credible. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

With all those flowers & pollen, they could at least have made it a bee and made it more credible. 😆


Yeah- Bee in Arjun's bonnet
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Posted: 11 years ago
I wanted to post pics where Arjun and Karna use their middle & index finger to pull the bow string.. but i dnt think its visible... So this very very late question.. if this is how it used to be, why did Drona ask for Ekalavya's thumb? 😲



Edited by Ddiala - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
In a battle, I think you will need your thumb. If it is recreational archery, then one can definitely use their middle & index fingers.

One thing that strikes me - how come in all battles, archers never thought about severing the fingers of their enemies to put them out of commission?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Also, seeing the tournament again & Yudisthir's reason for not fighting, since when was it adharm to fight if you are angry, as Yudi stated? 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Also, seeing the tournament again & Yudisthir's reason for not fighting, since when was it adharm to fight if you are angry, as Yudi stated? 🤔


-In that case, killing Jayadhrat would be adharm 😊

-regarding thumb, was it the hand which holding the bow or the arrow? If it's the bow hand it would affect your stability in your handgrip which will reduce accuracy a lot even if you can still shoot.. If it's the hand holding the arrow it will reduce the speed as in ancient archery you'll have to hold at least 10 arrows on your right hand to do a rapid firing (like a machine gun literally), and in a chariot battle losing thumb against a normal fingered enemy would be like fighting a machine gun with a single firing hand gun. Either way Ekalavya could still fight, but it won't be as fast or as accurate as before. And shooting enemy's finger is difficult, especially when your standing on an ancient chariot speeding on a rough surface without shockbreaker :)

- regarding the precap of Krishna vs Rukmi battle, where did Krishna get his chakra from? They haven't met Agni in the forest?!?!



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Edited by Atiratha2.0 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Vrish & Adirath.. I was just trying to mock the CVs.. am glad you two gave a thought and found me some answers 😳

again taking it serious, checked Drupad war/battle.. which is not recreational.. Arjun dint use the thumb.. what I wonder from what Drona did we are much sure that thumb is necessary.. that din't disable Ekalavya, but it did make him lesser than what he would have been if the thumb wasn't taken..
being aware of this, why do they take up this silly creativity of leaving the thumb un-used.. But yes I agree this comes in the least to bother list among all distortions 😆

And Yudishtar's point did sound valid for me.. Anger is not allowed when the fight is a competition and not war.. In the MB, fight between Dury and Bhim was stopped for this same reason by Aswathaman..
Edited by Ddiala - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

In a battle, I think you will need your thumb. If it is recreational archery, then one can definitely use their middle & index fingers.

One thing that strikes me - how come in all battles, archers never thought about severing the fingers of their enemies to put them out of commission?


There are generally two styles.

Indian longbow men (whether Arjun or the men in the Maurya/Gupta armies) used the thumb and the index fingers. The thumb acts as a steadying influence and hence the accuracy is very high. The slight disadvantage is that the act of the thumb pressing the arrow strains the biceps and triceps heavily thus impacting the range.

In contrast the European longbow men always balanced the arrow between their middle and index fingers. This compromises the accuracy but increases the range.

Ofcourse the top archers of either style would have worked round the relative disadvantages that they were presented with.

In modern archery including the Olympics and all the arrow is balanced between middle and index fingers only.

I guess the fingers were protected by layers of iguana skin casing (latern fences or something like that). A single layer of Iguana skin as such is pretty tough to penetrate. Most of the times they to sever arms instead of fingers.

Now regarding Ekalavya. The measure scale for a top archer then was accuracy. Eye of a bird, eye of a fish etc. were more about accuracy. Hence the thumb was taken.
Edited by CapeBuffalo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Atiratha

You echoed my thoughts exactly on Jayadrath. Arjun was pretty angry that day, and along w/ Satyaki & Bhima, wiped out 8 of the 11 akshaunis.

I tend to agree w/ what CapeBuffalo wrote above re: the use of the thumb. But is it written that Arjun didn't use his thumb in the war against Drupada?

Sorry about bringing her up again but one more thing I noticed about the serial - how is it that Priyamvada is only there for Kunti when the subject of Karna comes up, or preventing her from meeting him? How was she not there tending to Subhadra when Arjun was helping her w/ her return arrangements? Or how is she never around when Kunti is w/ her sons? As their mother's friend, shouldn't she be there to talk to them, and even if she's not exactly a maid (god knows what role the CVs have designed for her), be around to provide a helping hand? How does she mostly disappear when her friends are around? Will they show her accompanying the Pandavas to Varnavarta, or will Kunti keep shut about Karna on her own 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Even during Rukmini haran yesterday, Arjun held Rukmini's hand while running away from Rukmi's men. I mean...yeah...I guess it makes sense that he would hold her hand to get away, but that so would not have happened in the dwapar yug. When an unmarried man holds and unmarried woman's hand, they are considered compromised. Society would expect them to get married, and Arjun was not related to Rukmini in any way. He was not her cousin or brother, so he should not have held her hand so freely, even if it was to rescue her.


Writing here because the original thread is closed.. Yeah holding right hand is considered to be committing to relationship.. we find this in the story of Devyani and Yayati.. I don't think CVs are aware of this anyway.. but more to my shock, I saw Arjun holding Rukmini by her hip in an attempt to help her climb the horse 😲..

I have a question.. how did Rukmini become Rukmani? not just the CV's.. almost everywhere I come across ladies with these names. this is how it is pronounced and spelt too..
Edited by Ddiala - 11 years ago

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