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Posted: 11 years ago
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Karna has been my Hero all my life..i really hope this serial will do justice to his character. though i kind of apprehensive.after seeing serial's treatment with so called negative characters , i fear that CVs going to turn him more grey than he actually IS just to make the Heroes look more white. they did this with duryudhan [turning him into a sadist child who like to torture common people;fisherman incident.]Sakuni turned into a caricature villain etc etc. i really really hope that they DON'T MESS WITH KARNA's CHARACTER.AND hope they show all injustice and insult he had to endure and also all of his greatness.and strength of his unsung friendship with duryudhana. He is not a myth for me , but a much real hero who fought his destiny to the end...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

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Dont get me wrong.Of course what happened to panchali pandvas,ARjun and panchali herself is to be blamed for it no doubt but that doesnt make Karan's sin any lesser.Two wrongs dont make a right.What panchali did to karan was wrong but what karan did to panchali was also wrong and so was killing abhimnayu commander or no commander he killed abhimanyu by using unfair means
Yes karan's life is no doubt tragic but his death he isnt tragic he killed a young boy by using unfair menas hence he died unfairly.Arjun wasnt perfect either,he also made many mistakes in his life but killing Karan using unfair means wasnt one of them.That is my POV


well I got ur point .. I also think Karna's action in Draupadi's Vastraharan wasn't Karna-like .. it doesn't goes with his character .. if u read whole Mahabharat it seems like it is not karna but someone else is talking .. that's why I said it is like a forced entry of Mahabharat .. as if it was added later .. see many ancient boos has such later entries .. in Rigveda even in dramas of Shakespeare there are some part what historian suspects was added later .. I believe this part was like that

but about the specific word I have explained technically it wasn't wrong as per norms of religion .. I m just telling fact not justifying it anyway

about Abhimanyu .. yes I felt bad for him .. but what happened it happened following the rules .. its true it was unfair but to be very specific it wasn't "Adharm" as karna's death was .. see Abhimanyu entered Chakrabujhya himself .. he was armed .. so nothing was wrong .. in a chakrabujhya it always many vs one .. it wud have been same if Arjun was there but yes he knew how to come out .. but attacking process remain same .. but during Karna it was absolutely against morality .. he was unarmed .. as per rules you can't attack an unarmed man .. what happened to Abhimanyu was sad and pathetic but what happened to KARNA was tragic .. and the man of quality he was make things more painful .. Arjun did it wrong .. may be he and yes Krishna was the 1st one to bring such trick in war field [though there are more example in Ramayan Bali, Meghnad] by bringing Sikhandi to defeat Bhishma n then it was to defeat karna
Edited by SayaneeH.Lecter - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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well I got ur point .. I also think Karna's action in Draupadi's Vastraharan wasn't Karna-like .. it doesn't goes with his character .. if u read whole Mahabharat it seems like it is not karna but someone else is talking .. that's why I said it is like a forced entry of Mahabharat .. as if it was added later .. see many ancient boos has such later entries .. in Rigveda even in dramas of Shakespeare there are some part what historian suspects was added later .. I believe this part was like that

but about the specific word I have explained technically it wasn't wrong as per norms of religion .. I m just telling fact not justifying it anyway

about Abhimanyu .. yes I felt bad for him .. but what happened it happened following the rules .. its true it was unfair but to be very specific it wasn't "Adharm" as karna's death was .. see Abhimanyu entered Chakrabujhya himself .. he was armed .. so nothing was wrong .. in a chakrabujhya it always many vs one .. it wud have been same if Arjun was there but yes he knew how to come out .. but attacking process remain same .. but during Karna it was absolutely against morality .. he was unarmed .. as per rules you can't attack an unarmed man .. what happened to Abhimanyu was sad and pathetic but what happened to KARNA was tragic .. and the man of quality he was make things more painful .. Arjun did it wrong .. may be he and yes Krishna was the 1st one to bring such trick in war field [though there are more example in Ramayan Bali, Meghnad] by bringing Sikhandi to defeat Bhishma n then it was to defeat karna
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Edited by mayalnee - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayalnee

Karna has been my Hero all my life..i really hope this serial will do justice to his character. though i kind of apprehensive.after seeing serial's treatment with so called negative characters , i fear that CVs going to turn him more grey than he actually IS just to make the Heroes look more white. they did this with duryudhan [turning him into a sadist child who like to torture common people;fisherman incident.]Sakuni turned into a caricature villain etc etc. i really really hope that they DON'T MESS WITH KARNA's CHARACTER.AND hope they show all injustice and insult he had to endure and also all of his greatness.and strength of his unsung friendship with duryudhana. He is not a myth for me , but a much real hero who fought his destiny to the end...


OMG I don't come to forums coz orthodox mindset upsets me .. but here I am reading some really good posts .. even debate is very healthy .. loved what u said .. I felt the same way .. I am liking some new interpretation of Mahabharat in this show .. they portrayed Dhritarashtra very well but messed it up with Duriyadhan by showing him as a typical evil .. its sad .. but can't tolerate if they do anything wrong with Karna .. my respect for him is too much to bear his insult
Edited by SayaneeH.Lecter - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

The watcher and sayaneeh

Dont get me wrong.Of course what happened to panchali pandvas,ARjun and panchali herself is to be blamed for it no doubt but that doesnt make Karan's sin any lesser.Two wrongs dont make a right.What panchali did to karan was wrong but what karan did to panchali was also wrong and so was killing abhimnayu commander or no commander he killed abhimanyu by using unfair means
Yes karan's life is no doubt tragic but his death he isnt tragic he killed a young boy by using unfair menas hence he died unfairly.Arjun wasnt perfect either,he also made many mistakes in his life but killing Karan using unfair means wasnt one of them.That is my POV

Please read what I wrote, Didn't I say that karna's action wasn't right, but most of the people blame only karna for it karna had the revenge feeling for her and I did say that taking part in abhimanyu's killing was wrong but he had to follow commanders orders ,see three of the greatest warrior in the world were part of kaurav army- bhishma,drona, karna if Krishna wouldn't have used UN-necessary means pandavas would have lost way back ,even when karna was alive krishna knew he will kill arjun and killing arjuna meant kauravas won I too don't think karna's death was not fair( IT WAS 100% FAIR) if arjuna wouldn't have killed karna then and there karna would have killed arjuna later and adharma would have won and that cant happen in the presence of GOD.
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think even Abhimanyu was unarmed when he was in chakravayuh that is why he took out the wheel of his chariot to protect himself.He was unarmed when he was killed by the so called great warriors
As for depiction of Karan's character till now they have done a good job depicting his character i am sure they will continue to do the same
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SayaneeH.Lecter


OMG I don't come to forums coz orthodox mindset upsets me .. but here I am reading some really good posts .. even debate is very healthy .. loved what u said .. I felt the same way .. I am liking some new interpretation of Mahabharat in this show .. they portrayed Dhritarashtra very well but messed it up with Duriyadhan by showing him as a typical evil .. its sad .. but can't tolerate if they do anything wrong with Karna .. my respect for him is too much to bear his insult

yes,this forum has lot of space for healthy debate. i wish every forum is like that. and,well, i liked dhritis character sketch in the beginning,but now it seems ,i don't know..he seems ,evil?i may be wrong.anyway,Just hope that karna will be portrayed nicely.they have done well so far on this.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pandawas had one quality in each of them but Karn had all those 5 qualities he was Daanveer as well his one mistake of accepting Duryodhan's friendship put him on the wrong path which was full of Adharm. As it is they say buri sangati ka prabhav bhi bura hta hai that was the case with Karn. Due to this he was indebted to Duryodhan and could not go against him. Later even he regretted his wrong doings and bad deeds.

Karn is one character of Mahabharat for whom one feels pity and sadness. For him you just feel like saying Kash aisa hua hota to ...😔 He was a good human being.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

The watcher and sayaneeh

Dont get me wrong.Of course what happened to panchali pandvas,ARjun and panchali herself is to be blamed for it no doubt but that doesnt make Karan's sin any lesser.Two wrongs dont make a right.What panchali did to karan was wrong but what karan did to panchali was also wrong and so was killing abhimnayu commander or no commander he killed abhimanyu by using unfair means

Yes karan's life is no doubt tragic but his death he isnt tragic he killed a young boyby using unfair menas hence he died unfairly.Arjun wasnt perfect either,healso made many mistakes in his lifebut killing Karan using unfair means wasnt one of them.That is my POV



I think you all must once read the thread which was created by @nandiniraizaada - 'Karna- the tragic hero of mahabharat'..all the things have been explained very clearly..when you'll read & go through all the posts, you'll find that it wasn't Karna who is always blamed for brutally killing of Abhimanyu..& he actually came to rescue Draupadi..he came in the courtroom after the 'kapat dyut' was over..what necessarily made him insult Draupadi is all clearly explained in that thread..he didn't insult intentionally as he was insulted in her swaymvar..there was also one more reason for insulting Draupadi..

And on Abhimanyu part :- yes he was partially wrong because he had killed abhi when he was unarmed & helpless but before blaming him for Abhi, you must not forget that his 8 sons were treacherously killed by Nakuul before Abhi's murder..& at the age of 19 when Abhi entered the chakravyuh formation, Karna had saw him entering & he was really impressed by the courage of this young lad but this is a war & in the war, we'll have to follow the rules of the the commander-in-cheif
Edited by candidfrisky - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: candidfrisky



I think you all must once read the thread which was created by @nandiniraizaada - 'Karna- the tragic hero of mahabharat'..all the things have been explained very clearly..when you'll read & go through all the posts, you'll find that it wasn't Karna who is always blamed for brutally killing of Abhimanyu..& he actually came to rescue Draupadi..he came in the courtroom after the 'kapat dyut' was over..what necessarily made him insult Draupadi is all clearly explained in that thread..he didn't insult intentionally as he was insulted in her swaymvar..there was also one more reason for insulting Draupadi..

Hey, I cant seem locate that thread anymore ! 😕 Could you please provide the link here?

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