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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivpriya

I think in the original MB Shakuni wasn't involved in this act it was carried out by Duri himself. Bt here they've messed with it, so now making up for the loopholes like that.


If this was the case then the scenario would have make more sense.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhas1066

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shakuni had nothing to do wite act cause shakuni was no even in hastinapur at that time. he goes back to gandhar afte his sistr's marriage.

here is how the event is given in the book:

"Vaisampayana continued, 'Then the sons of king Pandu, having gone through all the purifying rites prescribed in the Vedas, began to grow up in princely style in the home of their father. Whenever they were engaged in play with the sons of Dhritarashtra, their superiority of strength became marked. In speed, in striking the objects aimed at, in consuming articles of food, and scattering dust, Bhimasena
beat all the sons of Dhritarashtra. The son of the Wind-god pulled them by the hair and made them fight with one another, laughing all the while. And Vrikodara easily defeated those hundred and one children of great energy as if they were one instead of being a hundred and one. The second Pandava used to seize them by the hair, and throwing them down, to drag them along the earth. By this, some had their knees broken, some their heads, and some their shoulders. That youth, sometimes holding ten of them, drowned them in water, till they were nearly dead. When the sons of Dhritarashtra got up to the boughs of a tree for plucking fruits, Bhima used to shake that tree, by striking it with his foot, so that down came the fruits and the fruitpluckers at the same time. In fact, those princes were no match for Bhima in pugilistic encounters, in speed, or in skill. Bhima used to make a display of his strength by thus tormenting them in childishness but not from malice.
"Seeing these wonderful exhibitions of the might of Bhima, the powerful Duryodhana, the eldest son of Dhritarashtra, began to conceive hostility towards him. And the wicked and unrighteous Duryodhana, through ignorance and ambition, prepared himself for an act of sin. He thought, 'There is no other individual who can compare with Bhima, the second son of Pandu, in point of prowess. I shall have to destroy him by artifice. Singly, Bhima dares a century of us to the combat. Therefore, when he shall sleep in the garden, I shall throw him into the current of the Ganga. Afterwards, confining his eldest
brother Yudhishthira and his younger brother Arjuna, I shall reign sole king without molestation.'

Then the evil-minded prince said unto the Pandavas, 'Let us all go to the banks of the Ganga graced with trees and crowned with flowers and sport there in the water.'
Meanwhile the wicked Duryodhana had mixed a powerful poison with a quantity of food, with the object of making away with Bhima. That wicked youth who had nectar in his tongue and a razor in his heart, rose at length, and in a friendly way fed Bhima largely with that poisoned food, and thinking himself lucky in having compassed his end, was exceedingly glad at heart.

Having made the other youths take exercise in the waters, the powerful second Pandava was excessively fatigued. So that on rising from the water, he lay down on the ground. He was weary and
under the influence of the poison. And the cool air served to spread the poison over all his frame, so that he lost his senses at once. Seeing this Duryodhana bound him with chords of shrubs, and threw him into the water. The insensible son of Pandu sank down till he reached the Naga kingdom. Nagas, furnished with fangs containing virulent venom, bit him by thousands. The vegetable poison, mingled in the blood of the son of the Wind god, was neutralised by the snake-poison.

'Then Bhima, endued with great strength and prowess, related to his brothers everything about the villainy of Duryodhana, and the lucky and unlucky incidents that had befallen him in the world of the
Serpents. Thereupon Yudhishthira said, 'Do thou observe silence on this. Do not speak of this to any one. From this day, protect ye all one another with care.' Thus cautioned by the righteous Yudhishthira,
they all, with Yudhishthira himself, became very vigilant from that day. And lest negligence might occur on the part of the sons of Kunti, Vidura continually offered them sage advice.
"Some time after, Duryodhana again mixed in the food of Bhima a poison that was fresh, virulent, and very deadly. But Yuyutsu (Dhritarashtra's son by a Vaisya wife), moved by his friendship for the
Pandavas, informed them of this. Vrikodara, however, swallowed it without any hesitation, and digested it completely. And, though virulent the poison produced no effects on Bhima.
"Meanwhile, the king (Dhritarashtra), beholding the Kuru princes passing their time in idleness and growing naughty, appointed Gautama as their preceptor and sent them unto him for instruction. Born among a clump of heath, Gautama was well-skilled in the Vedas and it was under him (also called Kripa) that the Kuru princes began to learn the use of arms.'"


so bhishma doesnt have any role in all this! and as a fact , neither does shakuni!!


Thanks for this information.In the show they completely skipped this part that how Duri and his brothers became jealous of Pandavs and grew enmity for them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jmoyee200



No dear in Original Mahabharat Shakuni is involved all wrong & bad Plan.


I agree if he was present there all the time then he was involved in everything which Duri and his brothers did or he helped them in escaping from punishment by lying and putting blame on others just he did with the fishermen's community.
Shakuni was not an adviser of the king nor any minister I mean he did not have any role in state affairs.He influenced Dhitrashtr because he was there all the time even his sister,Gandhari did not like much his acts and talks and king also not a friend of him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wow! I had always thought that it was shakuni s idea to kill Bheem.
I can imagine the amount of poison in Duryodhan's heart. A kid trying to kill his cousin. I think Shakuni was just nudging. The fire was already existing in Duryodhan. there was probably no need for any spark for this fire from shakuni!
Thanks @members for the info :)

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