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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Why do you think AMba wasnt justified?

They have shown the same story
Only diffenrece is as afr as i know Vichtraveer or whatever his name was Bheeshm's half brother refused to accept her so she literlaly had no where to go but in this case bheeshm's brother was ready to marry her but her aim was only to take revenge on Bheeshm

No they missed out a lot...Bheeshma wasn't that polite to kashi king. He kidnpped the 3 princess and took them in his chariot. MB says how bheeshma fought with all those who came to stop including salva king and defeated all.. Amba was left helpless but then she was relieved when bheeshma gave her freedom to choose. Followingly she was dumped by 3 men who were knowingly or unknowingly reason behind her misfortune.. The kingdom of hastinapur is blessed with so many curses due to such wrong deeds done by them. They always used power on each n every thing including women.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: swati2008

@snowdream...i think they downplayed Amba's plight...i know the Mahabharat story...it doesn't affect me much...but if someone would be watching for first time...he would be thinking Amba took all troubles on herself because of her unneccessary desire for revenge...which was not true...even the gyan Kanhaji gave when Amba went to Parshuram demanding justice...he said we should not be perturbed with life's minor roadblocks and centre our life at those...but was Amba's plight just a minor roadblock...sorry i don't agree with Kanhaji this time...Amba was rejected by three men and there might be no other man who would hav married her...even in 21st century many thinks marriage is sole aim of a girl's life...and in Dwapar age where women used to hav rights by association, being someone's wife or mother...marriage was a big deal...i don't think it was a minor roadblock in life but as if whole road just ended for Amba...i really didn't like how they potrayed Amba...though Ratan was good...

@Sabhyata...the thing you are saying as only difference is actually the main difference...they showed that Amba had an option to marry Bichitrabeerya and be the queen...but she still chose to take revenge...and destroyed her life and future...which was not true...


yup swati a person who sees this serial without a base knowledge can see amba as a vamp. But the misfortunes she had to face after being kidnapped by bheeshma was something any women could never bear.. Her lover didn't accepted her as she was owned by bheeshma and infact took her in his chariot along with ambika and ambalika... The insult Amba faced there after is all because of bheeshma.. Amba was potrayed as a kind of vamp in the serial who was blind in revenge but the truth was that her life got crushed under the power of hastinapur
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I feel Amba's plight was downplayed a lot and she was shown more like a revenge seeking woman than someone who just lost her potential husband due to a person and then was rejected by the person who was the cause.
Though I don't know about this part about Mahabharat, after reading the previous posts, I feel this was something which could be shown in a much more effective way. Amba's struggles were never really shown except for when she gets hurt.

But one thing was, she still did have the option to marry Vichitra Veer before he died. She could have married him and then think of taking revenge from Bhishma.

Also, from my point of view, in a Swayamvar, I think the daughter gets married to the most worthy prince and the princesses don't choose. In this case, Ambika and Ambalika should have been the only ones for whom the Swayamvar takes place rather than all three of them so Amba too was at fault here.

Also, Bhishma did put an open challenge, and it was the Prince's choice to accept it. If Bheeshma really did kill him, it was because the Prince and accepted the challenge, not because it was forced.

Based on what I've seen in the show, I felt Amba was seeking revenge for her own satisfaction rather than due to her plight.

Please do not bash as this is just my opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Swati

It depends on how you view this situataion to you it may seem like Amba choose revenge over marriage but for me she choose justice over compromise.When Bheeshm came in between her swayamabar on the basis of his strength he wronged AMba as she was deprived from choosing a husband of her own liking which was the basic aim of swayamber.Which was an injustice towards her.She could have forgotten the injustice and married Bheeshm's brother but she choose to fight for her justice.That is how i view this.I know this version is slightly differnet then what the actual version is but i dont mind this interpretation as well .they showed AMba as a strong women who fought for her justice in an extremely male dominated world where women were just supposed to compromise with the situation but she didnt and died fighting for her justice .So it was ok since the aim of this story was acheived to show that even greatest men make big mistakes and one lesson that MB teaches us again and again never ever insult or do injustice towards a women like they say in the promo uske aanson mein aag hai

Yup that was true though they missed many a parts , at the end they showed the strong willpower of a women in Amba. But the things that lead her to such a stage was never clear... Ratan made the character quite worthy to watch👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: doyelpakhi

Yes, they have downplayed Amba's plight and highlighted her revenge mode.

Amba, first of all, didn't say about her love for Prince Salva or whatever his name is, when Bheesma came to abduct the sisters.

Had she told him at that moment, Bheesma might not have kidnapped her but then it was not norm in those days for a girl to declare her love openly. When she revealed it in Hastinapur, it was too late. But in this serial she is shown to tell the truth before so that her vengeance can be justified completely.

As someone has pointed out in other post, what Bheesma did was not considered to be immoral at that time because he defeated the other kings and won over the princesses to make them Queens of a might empire. Even if we set aside the norm, and look at the incident from moralistic point of view, then what Bheesma did was Wrong and Amba's hatred for Bheesma was definitely justified.

But what I found a bit ironic that Bheesma was Not the Only person responsible for Amba's plight. However, he is the only one who paid the price.

Vichitravirya was also responsible as he refused to marry the girl who has been abducted by his brother. It was not Amba who refused, it was Vichi- the serial twisted the tale to make Amba revengeful. 😡

Even if we say that Vichi was justified in not marrying a woman who loves some other guy, what about Prince Salva or whatever his name was, whom Amba loved?

Bheesma and Vichitravirya were nobody to Amba. But that Prince claimed to love her and when she returned to him, he just threw her out of his life? Why ? Just because she was kidnapped by some other man! 👎🏼 He totally forgot it was his inability to save Amba from kidnapping.😔

And when Amba started her journey to take the vengeance she only concentrated on Bheesma and conveniently forgot about the Prince who left her just like that. If justice has be to got, then one should sought for justice from everyone who has wronged him or her. But Amba was more vindictive in her manner instead of looking for justice.


Bheesma, on the other hand, would have married Amba, had he not taken the vow. And in those days - it was unthinkable to break a vow.

If we look at from practical point of view, Bheesma had no choice before him to redeem the blunder he made. 😕The only option that one could think of that he had to break his promise, marry Amba, make arrangements so that she could get the honor and be treated as member of Hastinapur royal family and then himself commit suicide for breaking the vows😕 . Otherwise, if he would have just married Amba and live a happy life, then Bhisma would have been known as the person who can't keep promises.


Best part of this serial was Mahadev's dialogue - it was fabulous 👏 (even if it is a little different from the epic) - Mahadev did NOT give the boon of killing Bhisma for sake of Amba's vengeance but only when she would be part of some great endeavor to upheld truth and justice, she would be able to achieve the result. Basically, Bheesma would get his due for his karma irrespective of the fact whether Amba wants his head or not.😊


nice explanation doyel...😊...Bheeshma had to pay a lot for his deeds at the end where his own family fought at war front like enemies and he was helpless in even choosing between right and wrong

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