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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lovesunshine

no eklavya never was present at the MB war...



No, but as you said, Krishna killed him b4 he could join the Kauravas.

That wasn't my question. My question was that Ekalavya wanted to join the Kauravas. But as a citizen of Magadha - had that been the case - wouldn't he have been a part of Sahadev's (Jarasandha's son's) army? In which case, he'd automatically have been required to fight on the Pandava side, if he fought at all.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: srishtisingh

i have a question.i heard karna used nagastra against arjuna in war. but arjuna also had many divyastras like pashupastra bt why he dint use them?

Using such astras can be very dangerous and led to a lot of destruction they cant be used until unless absolutely necessary infact many times in the epic warriors are stopped from using these astras as it can led to a very large destruction.As far as my knowledge goes Brahamastra and Pashupastra are the dangerous ones and should be rarely used.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: srishtisingh

i have a question.i heard karna used nagastra against arjuna in war. but arjuna also had many divyastras like pashupastra bt why he dint use them?



Pasupatastra was used against Jayadrath
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Posted: 11 years ago
Aside from BRC, I've never read about this incident. Any books that have it?

Originally posted by: Proud-India

Next - Why Gandhari told to Duryodhan to meet her without single cloth on body before war??


At the end of Mahabhart war, Ghandhari was very sad and angry by the loss of most of her 100 sons, and she blamed Lord Krishna for this as she knew it was Lord Krishna who was behind Pandavas victory.
At the end of the war when Duryodhan was to fight Bheem, Gandhari call Duryodhan to come to her room at mid night with no cloth on the body, as she will open her eye and see Duryodhan her son and make his body of Vajra.But at that night when Dhuryodhan was going towards her mother room with out any cloth, Lord Krishna meet him in between, and ask him the reason for walking like this, Duryodhan told same thing to Lord Krishna, guessing the consequences of this Lord Krishna fooled Duryodhan, that how can you as a grown up man can go in front of you mother with out any cloth it will be very shameful for you and your mother.Duryodhan thinking the same thing as correct, put banana leafs around his lower body and gone in front of his mother, as Gandhari open her eye she saw Duryodhan fully naked, with only banana leafs arround his lower body.By this Duryodhan full body turned to Vajra except the lower part of his body from his waist to thigh.As the result Bheem killed Duryodhan by breaking his thighs.

Read above Paragraph & my doubt is that how can it possible that body can be hard like vajra.

What is specialty in Gandhari's eye sight?

And other question how many time she opened her pati after blind-fall?



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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.



No, but as you said, Krishna killed him b4 he could join the Kauravas.

That wasn't my question. My question was that Ekalavya wanted to join the Kauravas. But as a citizen of Magadha - had that been the case - wouldn't he have been a part of Sahadev's (Jarasandha's son's) army? In which case, he'd automatically have been required to fight on the Pandava side, if he fought at all.

Ok got your point.I dont know about this very clearly myself but i will tell you as much as i know and what i think
So eklavya was prince of tribals(Nishadas). His father Hiranyadhanu was the Nishada King who having been in service to the Kaurava Kings had died in a war when Ekalavya was a mere child.Now the question is if his father really belonged to Magadh why did he die in service of kaurava kings?there is no clarity in this but it think since Kauravas and Jarasandh were friends at one time may be died in some war in which Kauravas required Magadh's help and he died in that war not sure about this just guessing.
Well my point is that becuase Eklavya's father had died in service of kaurva kings krishna thought he would join the kauravas.Krishna ji just thought like this but i dont think Eklavya ever himself says this.So again my guess is Krishna would have thought that eklavya will leave Magadh army and join kaurvas.And since he is God he probably thought right
But ya you are right if he had remained in Magadh's army he would have had to fight for pandavas there are no to ways about it
I have told you as much as i know.not very clear myself.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Using such astras can be very dangerous and led to a lot of destruction they cant be used until unless absolutely necessary infact many times in the epic warriors are stopped from using these astras as it can led to a very large destruction.As far as my knowledge goes Brahamastra and Pashupastra are the dangerous ones and should be rarely used.


Several divyastras were used by warriors on both sides. The Narayana astra and Vaishnavastra were used by Baghdatta and Ashwathama.

In fact the Brahmastra was used several times int he war.

The most deadly and fatal one- the last to be used was the Brahmashira- which was employed by Arjuna and Ashwathama against each other. This was when Veda Vyasa intervened.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.



Pasupatastra was used against Jayadrath

hmmm i am not sure as per me Pashupastra are the ultimate weapon of destruction of shiva and kali.Yes Lord shiva did give this to Arjun but he never really used it as it causes a lot of destruction.And as per MB i dont think Arjun used Pashupastra for Jaydratha i think he used a normal arrow as per below.But i could be wrong though i am not an expert int his matter but this is what i have read

Then, there was darkness and the cry went round in both armies: "It is sunset and Jayadratha has not been killed. Arjuna has lost." The Pandavas were depressed and there were shouts of joy in the Kaurava army.Jayadratha turned to the western horizon and thought within himself, "I am saved!" for he did not see the sun then and thought the time-limit of danger from Arjuna was over.

At that moment, however, Krishna said to Arjuna: "Dhananjaya, the Sindhu raja is looking at the horizon. I have caused this darkness. The sun is still up and has not set. Do your work. This is the moment for it, for Jayadratha is off his guard."A shaft flew from the Gandiva bow, and, like a vulture swooping down on a chicken, carried away Jayadratha's head. "Listen, Arjuna," cried Krishna, "send your shafts in swift relays, so that the head may be supported from falling to the earth and borne into Vriddhakshatra's lap."

And Arjuna sent his wonderful arrows that carried away the head in the air. It was a strange sight. Vriddhakshatra was in his ashrama sitting in the open absorbed in his evening meditation with eyes closed, when his son's head with beautiful black hair and golden earrings gently dropped into his lap.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali


Several divyastras were used by warriors on both sides. The Narayana astra and Vaishnavastra were used by Baghdatta and Ashwathama.

In fact the Brahmastra was used several times int he war.

The most deadly and fatal one- the last to be used was the Brahmashira- which was employed by Arjuna and Ashwathama against each other. This was when Veda Vyasa intervened.

Ya i agree alot of other devi astras were used like you mentioned.But not sure if pashupastra or Brahmastra was used becuase as per me these are very destructive weapons.As far as i remember Karan had this and wanetd to use agaisnt Arjun but Kunti asked him not to then he kept the weapon given by Lord Indra for Arjun dont remeber the name but he used it for Ghatothkach but i dont remeber Brahmastra being used.I could be wrong though when was Brahmastra used and against whom?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata



Ya i agree alot of other devi astras were used like you mentioned.But not sure if pashupastra or Brahmastra was used becuase as per me these are very destructive weapons.As far as i remember Karan had this and wanetd to use agaisnt Arjun but Kunti asked him not to then he kept the weapon given by Lord Indra for Arjun dont remeber the name but he used it for Ghatothkach but i dont remeber Brahmastra being used.I could be wrong though when was Brahmastra used and against whom?


The astra which Karna otained from Indra was the Amogha Astra- with which he eventually killed Ghatoghach.

Pashupatastra, as Vrish, mentioned, was used by Arjuna to kill Jayadrath. On the night of Abhimanyu's death, when Arjuna had taken a vow to kill Jayadrath by the sunset of the next day, he had a strange dream. In the dream he saw himself and Krishna travelling upto Kailash where they had darshan of Lord Shiva and Gauri. Lord Shiva then asked Arjuna to fetch the Pashupatastra from a nearby lake which Arjuna did and Lord Shiva also taught the mantra for the same. It was with this astra that Arjuna killed Jayadrath,

Some of the occasions in which the Brahmastra was used:

On Day 12 when Arjuna killed hundreds of Shamshaptakas using th Brahmastra.

On Day 14, Drona used the Brahmastra against Yudhishthira

On Day 15 Drona used the Brahmastra against Arjuna who replied back with the same missile

Later that same day, after Drona had been killed, an engraged Ashwathama used the Agneyastra against the Pandavas. Arjuna used the Brahmastra to subdue the Agneyastra.

On Day 17, Arjuna used the Brahmastra to counter Karna's arrows.


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Posted: 11 years ago
Other than the Brahmastra, other divine astras to be used were Nagastra (used by Karna) , Anjalika (used by Arjuna to kill Karna) , Mahendra-astra (used by Arjuna on Day 3), Bhaskara and Jyoti astra.
Apart from the above, the Narayana-astra and the Vaishnava astra were used by Baghaduta and Aswathama respectively. Karna used the Amogha -astra to kill Ghatotghach.


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