What is the concept of Doormat and Dark Past? - Page 6

Originally posted by: Vsoujanya

Both AK and RK have had a pretty dark past I would say. RK for the obvious reasons. But AK here truly only has his younger sister and Bebe. His mother is just playing a game with him, and he is living in the guilt of thinking he killed his father, just the way RK was thinking for a long time. Both the characters have somewhat similar characteristics but AK is calmer and a little more grounded in reality than RK was. Both are unique. RK had to be the way he was because he had no outside affection. AK has his Bebe and younger sister so he has some sort of love and affection. Both needed relief from their guilt which was accomplished through Madhu for RK and will be accomplished through Miss. Kamli for AK. Although in the situation of AK and Miss. Kamli there can be role reversal, that Kamli will hate AK thinking he is the reason for her parents death. A silly teenagers wish cannot be a reason of anyones death. It will be exciting to know what actually happened post Kamil's parent's death.

Madhu from part one was not really a doormat. Even if she was I don't think its a big deal because every female lead in the history of television have been doormats at some what point of time. They begin as a doormat then gain confidence and try to maintain that. That is what I saw in the Madhu from part one.

Kamli in part two is yet to gain confidence, but with good reason. The girl has no idea who she is and what her background is. She has barely seen the outside world, and lived in Mathura all her life. Her grandma clearly kept her innocent and pure to keep her out of the real world which makes Kamli what she is today. She will discover her other side in Mumbai. It is her story along with AK's. Kamli just lost way more than AK had to. She is a doormat to Bittu's wife for now because she has no other choice, she needs to tolerate her for the sake of her Dida, and she needs to grow herself before she can handle Bittu's evil wife.

So overall I guess every male lead in television has a dark past, and every female lead begins or becomes a doormat at one point in the show. That is what sells in indian television today, and there is nothing wrong with it, its just entertainment I guess.

I am pretty excited to see how Kamil's and AK's story will unravel on this show now! 😊 I refer to the current Madhu as Miss. Kamli because I think its hilarious and super cute how AK calls her Miss. Kamli!😆

RK's dad was also a producer. We really do not know how AK became a superstar yet, its not like his father was around to guide him either. Clearly we do not know what happened in those 20 years post accident. I am pretty sure AK had to work hard as well just like any other actor. RK choose his lifestyle the way he wanted it to be, and AK choose his lifestyle. They are different individuals, one was dark and one is more free spirited. I am not saying RK is not likable or anything because I was a huge fan of him as well, but some of his behavior is questionable. A persons past does affect the person, but the fact that everything was yay everything is good now is not plausible as well.But then again logic is always missing in television shows (fiction) so I am not worried about it, they are there to entertain and we are here to be entertained and the actors did a good job at that and the new lead actor and the new cast is doing the same. They are doing a fantastic job at keeping entertainment in tact. I don't necessarily think all the male leads in television are doormats, instead I think they are easily manipulated, and they don't tend to give importance to "fix" such relationships whereas the female lead tries to figure out the "why" behind everything and tries to "fix" things.

RK had a dark past . RK lost his father at the age of 12yrs and most worst part is seeing his father hanging at that small tenderage. RK's mother marrying a person who should not be named as a human . RK and gave 2 bekaar relations to RK , one is step father and another is step brother never tried to see her son's pain . step father who hates , always thinks bad about him and later wanted to kill RK and wanted to see RK 's death even though he lived on RK's hard earned money . at young age girlfiend ditched RK for films and later married RK's step brother and lived infront of him, it's like someone every moment killing him. RK 's character had low and high's in it. definetely Superstar RK character is larger than life . Dark past is in only RK's life . RK struggled to to be Superstar who worths it on expense of other's life . RK the true Superstar onscreen and offscreen .

Originally posted by: Poluk

As per the plethora of knowledge/gyan collected in this forum:

1. Doormat:

a) Doing any type of adjustment/sacrifice to make your relationship work be it professional or personal life. 🤡

b) Giving more importance to long term happiness over pride and ego🤪

c) Not indulging in fair weather relationships i,e not dropping your spouse/partner immediately if he runs into problems which can also lead him to being highly irritable in personal life.🤡

2. Dark Past

a) Any minor problem including nappy rashes in the lives of favourite actor/character qualifies for dark past.😭

b) Any major psychological trauma in the life of the character we dont like is an irritating tantrum.😡

Originally posted by: Vsoujanya

RK's dad was also a producer. We really do not know how AK became a superstar yet, its not like his father was around to guide him either. Clearly we do not know what happened in those 20 years post accident. I am pretty sure AK had to work hard as well just like any other actor. RK choose his lifestyle the way he wanted it to be, and AK choose his lifestyle. They are different individuals, one was dark and one is more free spirited. I am not saying RK is not likable or anything because I was a huge fan of him as well, but some of his behavior is questionable. A persons past does affect the person, but the fact that everything was yay everything is good now is not plausible as well.But then again logic is always missing in television shows (fiction) so I am not worried about it, they are there to entertain and we are here to be entertained and the actors did a good job at that and the new lead actor and the new cast is doing the same. They are doing a fantastic job at keeping entertainment in tact. I don't necessarily think all the male leads in television are doormats, instead I think they are easily manipulated, and they don't tend to give importance to "fix" such relationships whereas the female lead tries to figure out the "why" behind everything and tries to "fix" things.

But I agree I am excited to watch Miss. Kamli's and Abhay's story unravel and see how their relationship will be affected by that.😊

u say rks behaviour was questinable but now isn't aks behaviour questionable i mean his, hatred towards rk is so lame he helds rk responsible for his fathers death y wen rk died before his father how can he be responsible atleast rk held himself only responsible for his fathers death bcoz he thought he cldnt save him n rk didn't held any dead person responsible for his fathers death even after knowing abt sultan he cursed his own blood n hims that he was son of a worst person but ak here is helding rk responsible for hks death even he wants to make jms life hell if she is rks daughter didn't ak know how his father threatened rk or how they tried to take away rks stardom
I guess a 18 yr old person is much sensible to understand things than a 12 yr kid who is on verge of growing n keeping his steps in world of youngsters

Originally posted by: EvIlNeSs_RoCkZ

oh acha thanks for telling 😆...but according to this MB 2 is not doormat then? 😕 😆

nappy rashes 🤣

Originally posted by: Vsoujanya

RK's dad was also a producer. We really do not know how AK became a superstar yet, its not like his father was around to guide him either. Clearly we do not know what happened in those 20 years post accident. I am pretty sure AK had to work hard as well just like any other actor. RK choose his lifestyle the way he wanted it to be, and AK choose his lifestyle. They are different individuals, one was dark and one is more free spirited. I am not saying RK is not likable or anything because I was a huge fan of him as well, but some of his behavior is questionable. A persons past does affect the person, but the fact that everything was yay everything is good now is not plausible as well.But then again logic is always missing in television shows (fiction) so I am not worried about it, they are there to entertain and we are here to be entertained and the actors did a good job at that and the new lead actor and the new cast is doing the same. They are doing a fantastic job at keeping entertainment in tact. I don't necessarily think all the male leads in television are doormats, instead I think they are easily manipulated, and they don't tend to give importance to "fix" such relationships whereas the female lead tries to figure out the "why" behind everything and tries to "fix" things.

But I agree I am excited to watch Miss. Kamli's and Abhay's story unravel and see how their relationship will be affected by that. 😊

The biggest difference between rk n ak is
Rk was a total selfish grey hero whereas ak is like regular sacrificial heroes
N wat i remember rk had clearly told how his steps taunted him wen he was kid n how they conspired against him but in that environment also he fought n became a superstar wheras ak became a star wen rk took a break frm industry before that ak was nowhere n ultimately after rks death helped him to become superstar bcoz the biggest competitor was nowhere n moreover
Wat was with ak destroying rks cds dvds n posters of all films n then even taking his house studio n everything isn't it totally rks stardom n property which ak has conquered rather than working honestly like rk did n with his sweat n hardwork he made rk mansion n studios
Even mks sitara studio was reestablish by rk only
N now ak conquered that also i mean he doesn't have anything of his own he is simply living on rks established things

Okay I am done being nice to people! wow people are really rude. And I am not the only one "EXCITED" for this show, clearly you have not seen other people who say they are enjoying the show. I am not here to argue with any fan group. I used to love this show, and these fan groups were the simple reason I totally stopped coming to this forum, and I stopped watching the show. I mean the leads don't care what happens outside the show, I don't see how difficult it is to understand. RK is dead, the actor has left the show, and that is the end of that. But my life does not revolve around this show or its actors, so maybe its easy for me to move on. I always been a fan of Drashti, but when all the negativity started I had to leave the forum. haha people need to learn to co-exist. Okay! RK IS THE GREAT TRAGIC HERO! Happy? I hope this made people's day. He is the ONLY character in the world who had a dark past no one else did. Not even Harry Potter, or gee I don't know more than Shakespeare's tragic heros. His life was so sad it was worse than Oedipus's complex life. 😆 I mean I understand RK had a tragic past, that was on scree, why are people saying off screen lol I like VD he has a fantastic life outside this show, he is living his life now with his beautiful wife. He will back with another show. This happens like on every other television. To end the point AK's character cannot be determined so completely because his past is not yet revealed. Just like RK, AK blames himself for his fathers death, and RK's and Madhu's death. He said so to Bebe. And what do you guys mean AK doesn't have bad people around him? His stepmother is pretending to care for him, his sister hates him, his brother in law wants him off the face of this earth. He is also surrounded people who hate him and just use him. Its the same concept. Its just as traumatic for him to live with the guilt of his fathers death as it was for RK. And what's with saying oh AK is all famous because of his dad, we know AK was launched but we do not know what happened after that. AK himself said that he was so involved with work that he doesn't even remember thinking past that. Until his past and his thoughts are not completely revealed I can't judge his character completely.

😆😆haha and one more thing, how do these people know about AK or I mean how can one compare AK's past with RK's when they do not watch the show, and are totally unknown to AK. I thought EVERYONE in the world stopped watching the show, and I am the only one of the forum along with a few handful who are watching the show. 😆