Episode 417 Discussion: 31st Oct 2013 - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Quite an emotional epi today...
The first half was lacking emotionally, everyone's performances could have been better I feel whether it was Madhu, Mehulji, Roma, but towards the end great performances by DD & Shamaji 👏 Bittuji was spot on. Pabo sorely lacking too (wish Navneet was there instead)

I see a lot of Rji bashing going on today, yes she can be dumb and obtuse but what she said was the truth (all attempts were indirectly coz of Madhu, no one can refute that), of course no one believes that nakshatra nonsense but right now she is a mother whose son is fighting for his life so maybe she can be given leeway for lashing out? she knows how much Madhu loves RK and will regret her outburst once she calms down, unless CVs decide otherwise.

So Kukuji is ok with ruining RK, but draws the line at his being killed? Are we supposed to be impressed by his kindness? Sikki butchered today, thank God they have left Bittuji intact.

PS: missed RK's dialogues, epi without him feels lifeless n incomplete.
Edited by soni28 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am so angry, yes yes also at the crap that the CVs are showing but more so that I slogged all day making Diwali sweets and took a break just for MB and this is what I get?
Diwali is supposed to be a celebration of good over evil and this is what we get treaded to this Diwali? the only way the Cv can redeem this is by showing RK out of his coma fast, he will definitely ask for madhu, come to know of his 2 so called mothers behavior to wards the women who matters most in his life and takes them to task on a "Diwali in MB land episode.
opinions ( sorry will probably be a redundant and a repeat of what you all are saying)
1] I had said radha deserved the treatment she gets from her son, and I guess she still need to learn a lesson when her will again be ostracized by her son for throwing madhu out.
2] cvs need to get their act together and no so blatantly promote such superstitions. it make mockery of people like Narendra Dabholkar a well known social worker who was murdered recent in Pune, who used to very actively campaign against superstations and witch-craft practices under the pretext of religious remedies and offerings. you have to find a way to ridicule all this nivaran and nakshtra business. and no offence PLEASE to any ones religious sentiments and beliefs, but please if KC could actually grant long life to the husbands, then men would not die right?. I mean, I understand why KC is kept in todays day and age but show some logic or at least don't use such rudimentary regressive excuses to push your story forward😡
3] found the shock on kuku's face interesting on knowing that amar orchestrated this and his own son was involved in this. I hope this will get him thinking twice about the company he is keeping and also that if some thing happens to RK then how will they survive. IF not even by sticking to their greedy character, madhu is his legal wife now, so all power of attorney goes to her and ( we know wont happens) if he were to die all will go to her, then uun ka kya hoga?
4] I am going to take this as a break for Diwali and not watch or just read WU till they think of a way to end this ridiculous track..
5]now here is the optimist in me speaking...remember in the previous clunckodonia track, things really went from bad to worse and then ridiculous especially with respect to madhu's so called majboori, and that brought about the end of that track, but it took 6 long months to come to that fruition. so here in this track I hope that the Cvs have brought the track to such utter stupidity so fast that we shall see the end of this track sooner and not have to suffer long month of torture.
Also if one were to go by the time line of SRKs special episode and sultans exit, then I hoep we see a similar one with HR's episode and the evil Trios (or at least Pabo's) exit😕🤢
sorry for the long rant... could not help my self🤢
PS: just wanted to add Charu and Leela great write up...agreed with every word you said a 1000%
Edited by 4EVRoptimist - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very Emotional Episode . DD was Outstanding today 👏 . VD loooks asusual Very Cuteee Even in Strecher 😳😆 . So Outside Bleeding didn't happen much immediately as It was more Internal bleeding which happened And Atlast Lead RK to go into Comma 😭 . GOSH!! Plzzz RK WAKE UP Soon as I can't see anything without u 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pagalpanti express is running in full madness speed.

I just want Radhaji out of RM life immediately...she is such a selfish female. Everytime something BAD happens to RK..she blame Madhu and act nuts towards Madhu...How the hell that woman forget what her son did with Madhu and what Madhu did for her son? Ridiculous female.

I just want to say one thing to CVs... Please stop showing Madhu a GOLDEN HEART person. Instead we want to see her as a stronger human who fights for her husband and her life...understands other peoples properly...prove herself.

AND RK is critical...Madhu stabbed him ...on the same spot where he got a gun shot last Ganesh festival. So yeah...its dangerous for his life. But why everytime they need to show how Madhu cop up with such situations and take so called 'wise' decisions according to conditions and other peoples desires.
Edited by i-me-myself - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Not seen the episode (and not going to till the CVs give RM some brains).

Based on the WU, I wonder if RK is really injured or this whole thing has been planned by him. There are two reasons I feel so -

1. Apparently Hrithik and Priyanka are going to make an appearance in MB. A film's promotion on a tv serial is done either before the release or on the day of the release. Krish 3 is releasing tomorrow. What are the chances that RK will be back on his feet and shooting a dance sequence with Madhu tomorrow?

2. This is Diwali time and the audience is in no mood to watch such a depressing track. But give them the win of good over evil and it's win-win.

Is it possible that RK orchestrated this whole drama to snap Madhu out of her ideal-bahu mania and make her see the true face of her ideal family? Or is it just my wishful thinking due to my favourite show falling further into the dumps day by day?
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: i-me-myself



AND RK is critical...Madhu stabbed him ...on the same spot where he got a gun shot last Ganesh festival. So yeah...its dangerous for his life. But why everytime they need to show how Madhu cop up with such situations and take so called 'wise' decisions according to conditions and other peoples desires.



@Bold Madhu stabbed Rk in the right side of his chest, last year he was shot in the left side of his chest near the heart, so it's not the same spot.😊






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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't have much to say actually, I can ask Madhu to be strong, but I can understand her state of mind, Radha is being a weak and ungrateful woman, she has no idea that her husband and stepson are involved in what's happening to her son, but then given that she is a mother and an easily influenceable woman, I didn't expect any undertanding from her side, if she couldn't understand that Madhu is being a heroine only to help her son, how do you expect her to understand Madhu stabbing Rk after Pabbo egged her on and due to her emotional state too as a mother, although I think she is one of the worst mothers anyone can have!!!

I thought I might get angry and frustrated due to today's episode, surprisingly I didn't, even Pabbo blaming Madhu didn't really affect me that much as we knew she would do this.

Now what is interesting to see is if in the next episodes they will somehow show Madhu as a strong person and prove all this nonesense of nivarans and nakchatra as what it really is "NONESENSE". I can, as Charu said, stand all what's happening now and consider it as a building up to come with a blast in the end and prove all these things as wrong, I also agree with Charu and Leela on the fact that we want a strong Madhu who uses her brains during the whole track and not only in the end of it, it would be excruciating to see her bearing, all the time, the insults and false accusations of Pabbo, Radha and Deepali, with rona dhona!!!! I would prefer 100 times a separation with Madhu being Rk's heroine and both of them romancing somehow at chawl away from the bhatias and Pabbo ( here I would prefer Madhu to get back to chawl not because she believes in the nakshatra issue but just to get away from tension and to concentrate on the film but whatever be the reason- even believing in nakshatra😔- her taking a break from Bhatias and Pabbo is welcome to mantain her own sanity as she has been going through a lot lately trying to please everyone and also due to Rk's critical state).

Anyway I don't mind anything as long as they don't show the leads, all the time, stupid or helpless, ups and downs are ok for me, but definitely not an almost permanent defeat which is turned to victory only in the last episode of the track!!!!!!
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I read the WU as I was running errands, and was instantly depressed. Wondered whether to watch the episode or not, weakened, and watched. I'm glad I did - just for the second half. And then I wondered whether to post a review or not - seems like everyone's covered the important points. But then I thought, hey, no-one has put down random ramblings, so here I am 😃...
  • So the murderer is Sikky. I'm not surprised at all. The worm has turned, and how. Since the time Sikky found Dips in RK's room during the unwedding time, I've felt like he's been seething and simmering. After that, he had been feeling emasculated by RK's taunts, and by Dips words and actions (never mind that he isn't going to blame her.) And ever since Kukuji returned he had been quick to anger over RK's taunts at Kukuji. I wonder what carrot - if any - Amar Behl dangled in front of him, in order to get him to do the dastardly deed.
  • Stupid guy - he replaces a fake with a real knife, but didn't expect things to deteriorate to that extent??? Kukuji is appalled and shocked (I guess even he had a line that he would not cross, and his nincompoop of a son crossed it.) Actually, calling him a nincompoop is making him seem like a benign idiot - what he did was "plain and simple premeditated murder, milord."
  • BTW, can we safely assume that this is the end of a beautiful friendship between Amar Behl and Kukuji?
  • At RK Mansion, Pabbho (Evilness) thinks very hard about how she could checkmate Madhu. And comes up with Radhaji (Weakling)'s name, as someone who could be influenced by her, and have power over Madhu (It looked like it took her a few minutes. I was like - really, you had to think that hard????)
  • I fast-forwarded Evilness and Weakling's scene - I just could not bear to watch (since I had read the WU and gotten the idea) basically, more of the filling ears with venom.
  • At the studio, MC and Madhu talking. Madhu's look of shock as she sees the blood on her hand. I loved how she literally flew - and pushed aside the wardrobe guy with his costume rack. And saw that RK was indeed truly wounded.
  • DD was fabulous today, no question. The emotional scenes in the hospital really touched me - probably for the first time after the unwedding scenes. A devastated Madhu clinging on to RK's side, almost unhinged in her grief, as she talked to Roma, and prayed before Bappa. And then when Radhaji slapped her and yelled at her.
  • I could understand (but not condone) Weakling railing at Madhu - as a mother, she's unhinged with fear herself, and after all, Madhu is an easy target. I just hope Madhu has now figured out how fickle this "mother" is. Will she forgive her in the future - yes. After all, she is Madhu.
  • I loved Bittuji's words to the press about leaving the family alone. Well done, IM.
  • Like everyone else said, the man (who else) looked adorable, whether he was on the floor, or on that gurney.
  • I'm really hoping that Madhu's eyes are opened after this - whether she forgives people or not is immaterial (there's the small technical problem of - if she doesnt forgive people, how do they logically stay on in the show 😆.) But just from a personal growth perspective, would be nice to see a stronger, more worldly wise Madhu.

The Precap: RK in coma. Prognosis uncertain. The doctor said, 7 hours or days or weeks or months. I'm hoping 7 hours. I can't take any more than this. Enough. This is the festival week, CVs. A season of joy.


ETA: Wonder where Kukuji goes after this? He demonstrated some level of humanity today, in sharp contrast to others in his family.

Edited by river123 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kudos to DD and SD for their phenomenal performances today. 👏👏
The last few minutes were quite dramatic. After that unwedding scene (where she cries for RK), I think this one is right close to it.

I hope today was the tipping point for Madhu to really open her eyes and harden her heart. If this incident does not make her strong, see people for what they really are, nothing will. I don't want her to go back to chawl at all. RK mansion is her house, she is the legal mistress of it. She has no reason to do a volt face from there. No one can legally drive her out of that house. She needs to stick around, hold her head high and give a fitting response to all these atrocities that befell her today. RK would have expected nothing less from her (or so I choose to believe). I know I am expecting too much from her but nothing less will do now.

Radha has lost all the respect from me. Nothing she does from this point onward will make her dear me at all. She showed her true face to Madhu today which is very ugly. Ehsan pharamosh aurat, ma ke naam per kalank hai. On behalf of RK, I want to do her final rites today myself. She gets no sympathy from me. She lost the right to be anyone's mother today.

RK - Please get up pronto. If not for your biwi then for us. We won't be able to bear RKless episodes for long time. CVs, make sure till he gets up, in every episode Madhu spends at least 5 minutes talking to him near his bed.

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