Episode 407 Discussion: 19th Oct 2013 - Page 11

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: _charu_

@Shruti, i think we got nervous bec. we didn't know what's coming up...NOW i can conclude that it was not intimate, but may be at the time of watching it, you felt uncomfortable...i understand completely...that's another thing ke I dun bother too much about what my kids r watching ...we went to watch jab tak hai jaan together n i was shocked ! but can't help it..i cannot close their eyes ! 😆

while watching MB, i'm very relaxed bec. i know kuch nahi hone wala !! 😃


Also in the case of a movie there are enough reviews and promos available for you to take an informed decision as to whether you want to watch it with kids or not.😊

And Charu may be it was RM who made the scene look sensuous while the same would have been drab and non-objectionable if other actors had been involved.😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
random musings..
loved the set up of the room...👏

Why is it that Madhu doesn't accompany RK on shootings? i mean, he always leaves early...

right frm the 4 thappad, every pack of RK has been bec. of Madhu and Madhu alone 😆

DVD were looking gorgeous n their acting was stupendous 👏 DD was spot on..
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: armummy



Rk being a husband needs to be responsible and should have a say in how his wife is potrayed as these scenes will result in his wife being ogled at and I do not want to write more ..

There is a reason why you see more sons of industry people than daughters and when daughters enter they make sure they are portrayed properly.


is this a husband wife issue or it has to do with skin show in movies or portrayal or women in movies ? 😕 he's the producer of the film so he has certain authority over the script..not just as a producer, as an actor, he can object to certain scenes (like he refused to hug that girl while Madhu was watching & asked the director to change the scene )..as an actress, Madhu can object to such scenes...as a wife, Madhu can trust him, he will take care that his wife is being portrayed in a nice way...but where to draw the line? the POVs differ in every case...Madhu read the whole scene, she was nervous when MC told her that it's an intimate scene...she didn't refuse Mehul or share her fears with RK...i guess she's aware that ppl. will watch her on the big screen in a lecherous way and may be she's not ready for it...may be RK finds it okay NOW coz he's seeing it frm a professional viewpoint , but he may also realize the fallout of her becoming an actress later on...



@bold, the audience who is watching them , each one of them will have a different mindset...vulgarity is in mind...they will ogle at fully cladded women also ! whoever is working as a heroine is somebody's daughter or wife... so that means, this profession is wrong..the beauty pageants , Bollywood, modelling , therez rampant exploitation of women, they're sold as commodities to lure men...but then, there are lot more factors..individual choice & opinion matters...freedom of expression...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: war_is_peace

so, what completely disgusts me is RK being possessive about men staring at his wife still doesnt have a problem with whosoever is present on sets! its completely off! sry but he looks like a novice himself in the business when he doesnt end up speaking up for his own production! 🤢

and i thought RK was sharp! 🤢


and I can imagine how much RK will be bashed if and when he ACTUALLY objects to Madhu doing a scene with any other hero or wearing short dresses or backless blouses in front of people 🤢 then he will become a MCP , person with double standards ..for his film, he was ready to sell of his wife, but he cannot see her with any other man..he dug up a hole for himself coz HE made Madhu a public property... when he becomes loving, caring, sensitive, receptive, adjusting, he's hated ! he's butchered ! he becomes a crybaby ! when he's obsessive, psycho, arrogant, ruthless, possessive , he's hated..😕 he's butchered ! Hiya, sorry for the rant but i just dun understand why and how is this a regressive change in RK instead of progressive !
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: arshisfan

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Charu welcome back, I hope you enjoyed your vacation🤗

I also think the scene wasn't that red hot nothing more than what was shown in many beautiful movies that we enjoyed and didn't consider as very bold, because it's not like it's a scene where there will be a lot of extremely suggestive touches, kisses and nudity!!

The episode was nice, it's showing what Madhu will face in this career to be a real professional, I think Rk was behaving as a professional, the context is different than the one when he protected her from Sultan, how are we supposed to see them finish that film, if they will compromise their work, what they can do instead, is drawing precise lines to what should be shown. For me, the scene as per what they showed wasn't vulgar at all.

I couldn't enjoy Karanamika's scene completely for the same reason as MC, Madhu was so terrified giving the impression that Karan was someone who was trying to abuse her and not her lover, this is how we saw it, and not like two lovers lost in their romance and passion!, so for a director this is what bothered him and that's why he told her to remember Anamika the character and forget Madhu.

As for Madhu, I understand her stand, and I didn't like MC talking to her that way even if somehow from a professional angle he is right, I would prefered her to explain them that she is uncomfortable and exactly about which or which thing, and then they discuss along with Rk how to make her comfortable explaining the whole thing from a professional point of view yet respecting her sensibilities as a person who is not used to that, it's all a psychological thing, if Madhu herself believes that all this is acting and she is doing it for the film's success and that the scene is not that bold as many have described it, then I'm sure she will do it easily. When she danced in that black gown with Rk on Mar jawan in front of everyone in that restaurant with a lot of passion, then also she was aware people were in the restaurant, but since she was acting and trying to convince and woo Rk, she didn't feel bad about doing it.


Thanks Najat, my vacation was refreshing..

I'm quoting ur entire post bec. this is how I felt after watching the epi..👏 even I couldn't enjoy Karan and Anamika's scene as it was being interrupted constantly..but the main motive of this scene was to make us familiar with the kind of pressure the actors have to deal with, the kind of adjustments they have to make for this profession ..also, this is the part of Madhu's growth as an actor...I feel that she doesn't like this industry bec. all seems fake...actors live in a completely different world of their own...it must be difficult to get into the skin of the character each day..and it must be difficult for them to compartmentalize their emotions...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: _charu_


and I can imagine how much RK will be bashed if and when he ACTUALLY objects to Madhu doing a scene with any other hero or wearing short dresses or backless blouses in front of people 🤢 then he will become a MCP , person with double standards ..for his film, he was ready to sell of his wife, but he cannot see her with any other man..he dug up a hole for himself coz HE made Madhu a public property... when he becomes loving, caring, sensitive, receptive, adjusting, he's hated ! he's butchered ! he becomes a crybaby ! when he's obsessive, psycho, arrogant, ruthless, possessive , he's hated..😕 he's butchered !


Heard the Aesop's fable of the father, son and the donkey. It is simply that case.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: blacklambo



@bold - That is the only part I understood from MC's point of view. MC wanted to capture the same intensity and spontaneity he had witnessed between RM initially when he recorded Madhu coming to the sets and meeting with RK (considered the audition). Since he wanted a natural feel, he asked RM not to rehearse.



MC wanted same chemistry so he told them not to rehearse. But when he saw madhu not able to get in the character, he didnot make her comfy. He was imposing his expectations on her but not understanding her nervousness. I hated the way he shouted that cant do a bloody scene. She is a person who is forced in this field without any training or any workshop. Its on the job training for her! I guess we will have to expect that either RK or Mehul or pabho will be shouting on her always to show that how 'bechari' she is. Thats how TRP aunties have seen their fav bahus across all tellyland. Poor souls with all burden of the world on their shoulders! Phew!!

@poluk - Love ur review. Agree that the liplock in JWM was chaste. My point was that even on telly at primetime we see hugs/kisses etc. RM scenes are not that we cant watch with kids. I feel that DVD make it more sensous by their sizzling eyelocks & dialogs. Agreee with charu that if it had been any other actor, it wouldnot have looked that sensous.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: cardio21



To all those that RK is not doing anything in this track.. I believe both Rishbala are working together on this..

So according to me if madhu is becoming his savior and Mahaan, then so is he.. He is becoming her savior in turn and also shown to be an equally perceptive and ideal husband..

So it's still Rishbala.. And the current track is the heroine track focussing on madhu's journey but who is the one who is patronizing her.. It's RK.. ,!! It will always be about Rishbala..


thanks for penning this down Kashish, and Shruti (i'm not quoting ur post on the same topic Shruti but completely agree with u) 👏

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Posted: 11 years ago
@charu-Even i don't expect any X-Rated stuff from this show and i am happy about it. And the episode was sensuous according to me but nothing like i can't watch it with my mum. I found it decently done and they portrayed Madhu's discomfort really well. Infact i was discussing with mom how Madhu is asked to do this scene and she's unable to do it.

I am happy with this kind of romance because neither will we get more nor do i want to see more.

Btw you're on a roll🤣🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: _charu_


and I can imagine how much RK will be bashed if and when he ACTUALLY objects to Madhu doing a scene with any other hero or wearing short dresses or backless blouses in front of people 🤢 then he will become a MCP , person with double standards ..for his film, he was ready to sell of his wife, but he cannot see her with any other man..he dug up a hole for himself coz HE made Madhu a public property... when he becomes loving, caring, sensitive, receptive, adjusting, he's hated ! he's butchered ! he becomes a crybaby ! when he's obsessive, psycho, arrogant, ruthless, possessive , he's hated..😕 he's butchered !

well said I don't know what people want from him, during the times of unwedding he was bashed right and left, during pyscho track he was bash as a abuser and in the current track also the same, I think he is soft target for everyone.

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