Episode 366 Discussion: 2nd Sept 2013

First Previous

Page

Next Last

Frequent Posters

Opti

@Opti

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 12 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

A husband whose wife feels guilty, what is he supposed to do other than consoling her especially when she is in the present emotional state of mind? Is he supposed to tell her you could have been in the wrong? Even if he would have done that , people would have been disgusted by him saying what kind of a lover/husband he is..yada..yada

He could have kept quiet for once. Certain things are better left unsaid for the thoughts to sink in.

Quote

Sree

@Katyayani_devi

Trailblazer

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#42

Wat cvs want to say by mb n sul dialogues I dont understand mb saying sul u promised me tat n this n when sul said she promised him n she says shut up I am not ur wife to value promise n she saying wat abt ur promise tat too sul loool wats tat n sul got shot n saying dhoka n the exps of mb wats tat total confusing can any one explain mb character is so complicated its easy to understand dips but not mb loool.poor viewers ko always mystery who is hero,villian,vamp,heroine in this show loool.seems mb character is so mysterious n as dips said mb is not seeda sadha types loool wats tat heaven couple rm conversation in bd abt sul sooo funny.poor souls dips n sul r burning their souls like hell lool.

Quote

Looks like you are new here. Register for free, learn and contribute.

aan-rish

@aan-rish

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#43

Anyone notice one thing. While Sultan gave his final words to Rk about Madhu is going to distroy him and he will lose his love and all etc.. That time some divine mantras were playing in the back groung . I noticed it now in the repeats. I am scared now. Is he cursed them!

Sultan 's ye nahi badlegi dialouge is confusing but I think he was saying that she will again do social services and give wrong signals to another young men around her and hence invite a lot of trouble for poor Rk.

Edited by aan-rish - 12 years ago

Quote

zoya_naziya

@zoya_naziya

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#44

Btw, RK is too cheeky...

Was it really necessary to say "yeh haath mujhe dedo Sultan" when he is being held at gunpoint?🤣

Quote

Sree

@Katyayani_devi

Trailblazer

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya
Btw, RK is too cheeky...
Was it really necessary to say "yeh haath mujhe dedo Sultan" when he is being held at gunpoint?🤣

whole epi was funny🤢😆.rk covered mb at shoulder torned wat abt bare back n loool seems rk ko mushkil hogaya tats y saying sul to nazar neeche 😆.cvs r great they made dark love story to dark comedy story🤢😆

Quote

MarathiMulgi

@MarathiMulgi

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#46

Madhubala ji, joh tum ko ho pasand woh hi baat karenge. Tum din ko agar raat kaho raat kahenge.

Why are you all disappointed with RK for what he said to Madhu today? What else was he supposed to say? That what Sultan said it true? You alone have indeed ruined both our lives? If she realizes her folly, how will she make future mistakes and drive the plot that she has driven so far? Do you want to see the heroine track or not? eh? toh? Just accept the fact that RK has been completed domesticated.

Seene mein goli lagne per bhi Sultan ke chehre per no expressions. Totally calm. No mind body connection at all even in pain. Kitna pahuncha hua aadmi hai (matlab tha). Jate jate lekin indeed amulya gyan de gaya hum sab ko. Madhubala kabhi nahi badlegi. Indeed, true words were never spoken in this serial. Viewers please make a note. Adjust your expectations and do not spend time in beating the dead horse (I mean Madhu) for her future atrociously idiotic plans of putting her husband's life, career, peace of mind etc in peril. Rishabh Kundra ko uske poore janam bhar unwedding ke paap ka phal bhugat na padega.

I want to thank Madhu di se for not gently holding Bhai's gun clad hand this time. She could not help to give the last bhaashan to Bhai however. Bhai came out of his stupor of listening to Madhu only when RK shot him. Chalo bade bhaiyya per Munna ka ek antim upkar. Bhai too returned the favor by cautioning Munna, lekin afsos Munna ke liye bahut der ho chuki hai.

Inspector Joshi - Behetar yahi hoga ki aap bhul jaye ki RK ki family se aap ka kabhi pala pada tha. You don't want to get involved with this crowd - especially Mrs. RK. Just shake RK's hand, get an autograph/photograph, wish him good luck (believe me he is going to need it in spades) aur chalte bano.

Quote

Survival

@Survival

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#47

Good morning everyone

Finally Bhai is dead and I guess everyone is happy about that fact, I know there are many illogical things that have been pointed out but anyway we got rid of a big burden.🥳

Actually today I want to do something different, I know that all the members of the EDT, do great efforts actually and they analyze deeply every episode, and believe me guys many times you come up with ideas or observations that I didn't pay attention to, or even never crossed my mind, but I feel sometimes that we really get highly emotionally invested in the show that we stop enjoying it fully, so here come some points that crossed my mind!

Never forget that the show is a work of fiction, don't always expect it to be similar to real life or to have the same logic either, actually many actions, events, reactions are just a requirement of the drama or the action, Cvs and directors just include them to create an impact, whether they fully succeed or not, it's another thing, but I'm just trying to understand the logic of some actions and reactions, for exemple:

1- Many were complaining about Rk standing there when Sultan was pointing the gun at Madhu, well first Rk showed expressions of concern and even tried to move, but he didn't jump immediately to action because Madhu had to say her lines to Sultan that she will only belong to Rk and never to him, and in the second time that she doesn't need to give him any promises as he is not her husband and they have no relationship ( by the way I couldn't understand why people were so disgusted with that line, I think it fitted the context although Madhu wasn't in need to justify herself but it didn't bother me at all neither did I see it with disgust), so all this was because Cvs think it's needed to have this dialogue between Madhu and Sultan before Rk gets into action and kills him

2- Rk-Madhu were lost in their romance looking at each other for some time instead of first taking care of the dropped gun and the enemy in front of them, this was also for drama's requirement, show us some romance how the hero rescued his heroine after so much tension otherwise in real life people would first get out of danger then hug and celebrate

3- Police coming very late to the fighting area, although they immediately followed the hero when he was pursuing Sultan, it's also another way to give the hero time to finish his job as a HERO who rescued his wife all by himself without anyone's help

4- Rk killed Sultan and at that moment not exactly for self defense but in my opinion it's still an anticipated self defense coz if he gave Sultan another chance he would have killed him for sure so it's ok although I would preferred the killing act to be within the fight and not after, but again I say that it was needed firstly because of the viewers who were fed up with sultan stalking and touching Madhu and almost of them wanted Rk to kill Sultan and not the police, secondly to show us Rk's junoon that once he saw another man tearing his wife sleeve, the man in him woke up and he defended his honor even if Sultan didn't intentionally but Rk's reaction was correct especially for us viewers who were irritated by Sultan, by the way didn't Madhu slap Rk when he did the same once! So to quench viewers thirst Rk beat sultan and told him "didn't I tell to stay away from my wife", then he shot him and ordered him to lower his gaze. So all this was shown to prove that Rk knows how to defend his honor with junoon, if viewers reaction wasn't this strong towards Sultan they would have Rk beat Sultan but the Police finish the dirty work as a hero generally is meant to be clean and without guilt issues, after all, no matter what was the reason killing a human being is not easy and if this person is your step brother it is less!!

5- Madhu-Rk in their bedroom, well, for Cvs hero-heroine should always be the nice and big hearted people who have good intentions and thoughts in general so this is what they showed, Madhu asking why Sultan changed and actually from her point of view she is right, Sultan indeed was portrayed as a good gangster with values and ethics, he killed people but apparently only bad ones, he refused to deal in harmful things such as drugs, he respected women, he used his kid as bait but even then they justified it as being a way to make his kid a strong person and they insinuated that Sultan would let nothing happen to his kid even if he himself put him in this situation, they also showed that Sultan was ready to help Madhu when he thought Rk kept her against her will, I know we disliked him pointing a gun at Rk and Madhu convincing him the way she did to drop it but again from her point of view Sultan was just helping her and she also lectured him over the phone asking him not to interfere in her life, but the lack of intensity in her reactions was due to the fact that she wasn't in good terms with Rk, and she believed Sultan is not bad and he won't ever hurt her especially given the fact that she helped him a lot. Coming to that point of her helping him, I can understand why he got wrong ideas, I mean she saved his life, she took care of his child, she used to talk to him in a nice way with her thinking that he is a good man and he is a gangster only because of circumstances, all this made him fall in love with her, but after she backed off from her revenge and stated clearly that she loves Rk and she married him, all the wrong ideas should have been gone, how many times did she tell him that she loves Rk and only him, so I don"t know why is he blaming her, If I can blame her for something is for her trusting people easily and share her revenge plan with Sultan, I hated that, but again from her point of view, Sultan was a wellwisher and she trusted him because she couldn't think that someone whose life she saved would backstab her some day. So don't tell me she made him obsessed about her, if in the beginning she gave him wrong ideas she made up for it when she married Rk and then Sultan wasn't that obsessed he was planning to leave her life and then he came back after Meera's drama. So I think we are being harsh on her, and Cvs indeed showed that Sultan has changed from a good gangster although I don't know if this make a sense (but how many shows or films had their heros being gangsters but even though we liked them) to a bad stalker and it was a sudden change and this is exactly what Madhu told Rk, so even if I despise Sultan and never liked Sulbala even before, I can understand that for her he changed because this is how Cvs showed him from the very beginning. Rk talking about Love turning to junoon, maybe from his own experience he could understand Sultan and he seemed so wise unlike the unsecure Rk , and I didn't totally dislike it although I hate Sultan, I think they just want to show that our hero-heroine can analyze things, show empathy even to their worst enemy and it's not something new in shows.

Don't forget that we watch the show to enjoy it and not to get high BP so for me this is what should matter, getting into a lot of logic, seeing a lot of spoilers with a lot of speculations make me enjoy my show less. So from now on, I will focus on good things and not the bad ones, I just need a minimum of logic, a lot is most welcomed but if not possible I want them to show me my intelligent Rk from time to time, my brave Madhu , less family drama, better executed tracks and a lot of RM's chemistry and I would stick to the show till the end.😊

Of course no one would mind shows with high degree of execution and logic ala "Prison break", but according to what we have we should adjust ourselves and Madhubala ek ishq ek junoon was wonderful and very stylish before Bhai's entry and I just hope it gets its charm back, if it doesn't fully, I would still keep watching for Rishbala because they rock.

Edited by arshisfan - 12 years ago

Quote

armummy

@armummy

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#48

Wow... Finally Mb Ka kachra Saaf hogaya and we can finally move on from last six months ...nothing worth to talk about past six months anyway ..

Congratulations and kudos to all who stuck around and have given us daily dose of edt . I hope we will good episodes from now on .. I like the new spoilers mostly because finally they got some one who can act and deliver dialogues with clarity .. My only regret for last six months is I did not get two see bujang and rk confrontations .. Bujang was too good and would have really added to MB if he would have been utilized properly .. But anyway Hoping for good episodes going forward and not seeing any mention of bhai from now on wards in Ed or the forum

Quote

cardio21

@cardio21

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 12 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

A husband whose wife feels guilty, what is he supposed to do other than consoling her especially when she is in the present emotional state of mind? Is he supposed to tell her you could have been in the wrong? Even if he would have done that , people would have been disgusted by him saying what kind of a lover/husband he is..yada..yada

And coming to Madhu, the CV's need to keep her insanely foolish to drive their drama and they obviously will go onto justify her actions thro other characters...

That whole scene was basically CV's through RK trying to tell the gist of the Madhu-Sultan story with them saying neither was Madhu wrong nor Sultan wrong ...How did RK all of a sudden know that Madhu supported Sultan in his bad times.. Which bad times of Sultan did RK know?

Agree with Zoya.. 😛

I m in no mood to browse through the posts of an emotionally abusive RK who was trying to play with guilt of his doormat wife to ensure that she remains ensnared with him. Such is the mentality of a sociopath who treats his mother and his wife cruelly, knowing that he can get away with it. He doesn't respect woman.. Look at the way he uses Dipali.. men like him always play with the weakness of a woman and this is what he was doing..

This is the snippet of the many posts in case RK would have spoken our mind.. 🤣

Quote

dramacrazy12

@dramacrazy12

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#50

An odd episode...one that did not give me closure but instead left me with an odd sense of foreboding.

Here are a couple of my observation followed by a seemingly unlikely thought that I can't rid myself of-

1) There is dialoguebaazi between RK and Sultan...Sultan seems shocked to see Madhu standing in courtyard. He shoots Joshi and takes off with Madhu (who for some odd reason once again wants to face him despite being aware of the danger)

2)A chase ensues that ends in some parking space. Sultan threatens to kill RK. Once again for some reason Madhu jumps in fray and Sultan ends up pushing her which results in her torn blouse. This enrages RK who shoots Sultan. There were couple things that interested me in this scene...Sultan had his finger on trigger and Madhu pulled the gun out of his hand but the gun did not go off by mistake, the second was the tin sound gun made when it hit the ground. It was the sound of a toy gun and not a real gun (CVs... there is devil in details) and third was Rk standing there like a fool while Madhu duked it out with Sultan but more importantly RK would not have shot Sultan if Madhu had not ended up with a torn blouse.

3)This obviously was the most interesting part of the show today...Sultan says certain things that seem out of place...mostly he screams of betrayal and how Madhu is bad news. You see flashes of intelligence in his monologue. All this while you see an odd expression on Madhu's face...almost as if she fears that some secret will be out. Obviously everyone dismisses his ramblings as frustration of an obsessed man. Sultan dies a disgraceful death promising that RK too will lose everything . I don't believe that he survived this and I think he was referring metaphorically when he said he will fight with RK again.

4)Madhu and RK are united once again. Obviously they both seem traumatized with the events of the day. Madhu asks RK if she was in wrong...Rk tells her that she did not do anything wrong. When I first saw the scene, I was a little angry with him but later on second thought I realized he was never privy to the closeness between his wife and Sultan and how she continued to lead him on with soft looks and touches and sharing confidences. Besides there was no point in beating Madhu up with cold hard truths at this point given she herself looks traumatized,

5)Joshi comes and points fingers at Dips, RK seems to be onboard and it is revealed that he did suspect someone close was Sultan's mole. Madhu seemingly defends Dips, we will find more tomorrow but Dips almost looked scared. I failed to understand why Radha did not have a mentos moment now specially after the blackmailing incident. Madhu defending Dips and Rk keeping quite also seemed out of place.

There was something that seemed jerky and disjointed about today's episode not unlike last 15-20 episodes. I am now confused if this is truly clunk or something more than meets the eye. Which brings me to my odd thought and the key came from Sultan's dialogues about Madhu's betrayals and how she is bad news.

When I was little my grandma always told me that some measure of humility, self-doubt and fear were virtues at times more so for a woman who was the heart of a family. It makes her more circumspect and less impulsive. She would often point out how Draupadi's pride, vanity and lack of self-control (when she mocked Duryodhana and Karna at two separate events) destroyed not only Kauravas but also Pandavas and Yadavas though it is hard to explicitly blame any of her actions. Similar destruction was caused by Helen of Troy that put an end to many dynasties in Aegean wars by her impulsiveness though once again it is hard to blame her per se.

Madhu too seems to incite some sort of passion in people that leads them to their destruction. Interestingly her actions are cloaked in good intentions and it is hard to fault her. Mukund is the only one who escaped the fate probably because he did not truly love Madhu

1) Ballu's hate and fear of her led to his death

2)Shamsher's love for her led him to attempting murder and he would have been destroyed had RK not intervened. Interestingly Madhu behave in a way that seemed like betrayal from a certain perspective

3)Dips was evil but her hate for Madhu made her fall too low and step up her game...she is destroyed given that she has become morally repungent and unforgivable

4)Sultan was definately led on by Madhu and that led to his death.

5)Rk has been on verge of his destruction ever since he married Madhu and things will seemingly only get worse.

What interested me with regards to Sultan is this -

1)Did Madhu really lead him on in her stupidity or on purpose?

2)Did Sultan just kick in a self-fulfilling prophecy if Madhu did indeed not intend to lead him on.

I know it is hard to even say this out loud...but if for a minute you imagine that Madhu too was playing a smart game ...one that would destroy both RK and Sultan in a single swoop.. she is the one who is using them both..all that clunk suddenly seems to make sense including Meera and her bangle obsession. It also explains that odd fake feeling I get everytime I see RM romancing.

1)Sultan suddenly becoming obsessed with Madhu and being so confident about it. He once told RK that he had already had Madhu...could that be true from his perspective? If you go back and see the episodes you will always see an sarcastic smile on Sultan's face when RK talked about his closeness with Madhu as if he was in on some secret. In fact he reacted almost like RK/possesive husband_lover reacted when it came to Madhu.

2)Him being shocked with seeing Madhu in courtyard

3)Madhu's confidence that he will not hurt her

4)All her actions during RK's trials that seemed to make matters more difficult for him

5)Her defending Dips and keeping her in the household despite obvious ridiculousness

6)Every time Cops set a trap for Sultan and Dips was unable to get to Sultan...Sultan caught on it because she gave it away by nodding at some officer at wrong time. This would also explain why she never put her phone on speaker phone and so on.

7)Her constant jaap of how much she loved RK...notice how she constantly jumped in front of Sultan and said things that could be interpreted either way. We interpreted them a certain way because we saw it from RK's perspective and hated Sultan. Look at all those episode with a different perspective ...and you will see a different story emerge.

8)Based on spoilers she sees a locked closet, next day there is a raid.

In the end I am intrigued but oddly disgusted with my thought process at the same time...It reminds me of the movie wild things.

Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago