Episode 366 Discussion: 2nd Sept 2013 - Page 2

Originally posted by: _charu_

no, we have a full explanation of how he was so good but he changed overnight..now what made him change overnight? did anyone blackmail Sultan to change overnight? 😕 bec. Madhu's judgement can never be wrong ! for a moment, when she told Sultan that he'd promised her to not hurt RK, I thought she will try to strike a deal with him yet again ke i'm ready to leave my pati, plz spare his life...but sad, Sultan tore her sleeve. 👎🏼 poora climax hi badal gaya ek scene se...and what was she expecting? ke after she runs away with Sultan, woh aarti utarega Madhu ki?

I watched most of the episode on mute.😆
The production standard of the entire Sultan confrontation to demise looked like a low-budget play intended for television and enacted in outdoor settings.

And if they were going to use Madhu's torn blouse-sleeve as a major point, she should maybe have been given a different outfit, or at least - only this once - a non-backless blouse.
RK pulling the chunri over the torn blouse-sleeve was emotionally touching, but since the back stayed uncovered by the non-torn part of the blouse, also a little confusing.

The kill scene seems to have been split between the channel's determination that Sultan should go out looking good even if by shifting the blame onto Madhu (never seen a scene where the female lead was accused of betrayal by the villain at such length😡), and the PH's urgent need to - hopefully - avoid another court case or anything which requires Sultan mention except in the channel-required minimum statements from the surviving characters about the character having supposedly changed for the worse.🥱

At this rate, Madhu is not going to get much mass-audience sympathy no matter which character says or does anything against her.
RK never takes credit for anything he does, but the audience sees it and takes it into account. Everyone including Madhu mention what good she/they have done, but almost never mention the good he did. End result, they look like ingrates.

RK makes a gigantic mistake that is unfortunately dwarfed by vicious actions condoned in many other male leads, takes the blame publicly, humbling his extreme pride and never speaking of any errors by anyone else.
Madhu is shown repeatedly behaving in a way that outrages conservative sensibilities in supporting another man at her husband's expense. She apologizes briefly in private, it's lovingly glossed over, and she goes and repeats the same sort of errors on a much larger scale without even a breather.

She was made to behave against all conservative standards for months, and garnered mass-disapproval. That was for the benefit of the now unlamentedly deceased character.
Then when he was turned into villain, she was allowed to speak of him harshly and with unalloyed contempt.
Now that he is dead, for the final whitewash gift for his character (at Madhu's expense yet again) she is being shown speaking of having no idea how Sultan changed.

And since it has been decided seemingly at the last minute to keep Dipali in the story and in the house, Madhu is sacrificed for that as well in the hope that she will be admired for her mahaan gesture.
Unfortunately, Madhu's mahaan gestures have developed a record of taking her husband to the brink of ruin and/or death, and are always in contravention of her duty as wife and daughter-in-law to preserve her reputation, her husband's wellbeing and her sasuraal's prestige.
And her refusal to publicly blame herself unstintingly for resultant disasters ensures she does not get the mass-audience sympathy she would have got if she did so.
Other female leads too are shown being told by doting husband and other kin to not blame herself. But Madhu is the only female lead shown easily and repeatedly acting on that advice.

And RK speaking positively of the deceased character won't help gain the dead man even a whit of support from the mass-audience that rejected him for so long with such fortunate consistency.
Mass-audience support always seems to be in defence of RK rather than by his guiding, regardless of what actions he may be shown perpetrating.
After the unwedding, he was disapproved of - and expected to redeem himself and then win Madhu back - until Madhu was shown getting increasingly cordial with another man. At which point his redemption became optional, and whatever means he chose to get Madhu back into his home and his life were accepted with passive tolerance.
If Madhu whom he had wronged was not given leeway, then Sultan who has constantly been the cause of harm to RK will not be forgiven even if RK pronounces the dead man a sainted martyr.
The channel should stop its efforts. Articles suggesting RK should have sent his wife to get closer to his enemy don't make RK look likely to behave like that except via characterization-butchering.
And having RK and Madhu sing excusing paeans about Sultan will - like the past several months - gain Sultan no support, Madhu a lot of disapprobation, and RK sympathy for loving his wife beyond insensibly. And it would be nice if they would spare Madhu at least now that the beneficiary is no longer there.
Will probably be skipping or muting for the Madhu-Joshi-Dipali-RK scene tomorrow 🥱, and waiting for the Rishbala scene the next morning.😊

Originally posted by: _charu_

CR 🤣 never mind yaar...backless blouse doesn't mean open invitation...don't u get it? it was not Madhu's fault ke Bhai uspar latoo ho gaya...it was his sick mentality, why does he have to look there ? ispar haq hai sirf RK ka..

u really think Sultan is dead ? I was thinking kitni tomato ketchup niklegi wahan se ..what a waste of resources !

Another observation.. Unlike RK n Madhu Bhai liked to keep it simple..

Originally posted by: cardio21

Another observation.. Unlike RK n Madhu Bhai liked to keep it simple..

He came with one expression, stayed with one expression and ultimately left with the same expression... 😆

Pata hi nahin Chala, Sultan kab mar gaya! 😃

CV's love for Sultan at its very best!!! Glorification of his character as always!! Isme naya kya hai!!!

Originally posted by: cardio21

This woman is just clueless.. Is she retarded or what? Why the hell did she indulge in wrestling with a lecher? Very poor execution.. I started watching this show as a Rishbala fan, but this woman keeps testing my patience..

Even RK did horrendous things like unwedding n all, but he has the gall to accept his mistakes and also he doesn't seek reassurance for his misdoings. He doesn't get defensive but this double standard woman keeps annoying me. Whenever I try to get over her main Pagal hoon speech, she reinforces it with her beyond ridiculous dialogues.. Are all the soap actresses this retarded??

I wonder why Sultan didn't mention the contribution of Pads who would give her daughter personal time to have a heart to heart with a criminal..😡

RK is matured guy... Madhu is nothing but stupid and confused soul... RK always has the clear picture of what is right n what is wrong... The problem with madhu is she cant differentiate between right n wrong🤢... The people around her too never point it out...🥱😡... She is someone who cant judge people n have a broader picture about the consequences of her actions...

If RK does something wrong she points it out u know... she always ready to give her share of bashan...🥱... but when madhu is wrong RK never points it out... This is making her to repeat her actions again again... Her own people are not pointing fingers at her... their soch is "MAdhu kabhi galat nahi ho sakthi" 🤢... what can we say?? For me everyone is looking like a bunch of fools...sry but thats what i feel 😊

So Sultan dies saying...dhoka!! Kahan ka dhoka, kaisa dhoka???? Anyway, guys, he is gone. Jis din ka intezaar tha...and all that jazz.

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

waise CV's aaj mera Sultan love ka fast hai.. uski glorification ki baatein meri kaan khaa nahi sakti..

Btw did Sultan just say Madhu is vinaashbala?

What did those dialogues of Sultan to RK mean? One day you will lose.. We both will fight again for Madhubala.. She will not change😕

Please girls tell me Sultan is really dead.

I liked that saari goliyan thok di RK ne!!!! RK must have been having that much of hatred and top of that this guy went on telling lot of things that had me dumb-founded..

Finally the king of clunk has left !!! I'm happy with this ..so I'm not gonna spoil my mood by talking about the illogical climax . The king of clunk leaves with clunk after all . I hope that bhai rots in hell !!