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Narcissism is the pattern of traits and behaviors which involve infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.

On the outside, a narcissist appears to have higher than average self-esteem. Paradoxically, the narcissist's self-esteem is lower. For the narcissist, self-worth comes from the belief that he/she is superior to his/her peers; it is not enough to be "okay" or "pretty good," the narcissist can only feel worthwhile by being the best. It is this struggle of the narcissist to convince others of his/her superiority that results in the outward appearance of high self-esteem, and the inadequacy that the narcissist feels from not being the absolute best that results in the narcissist's low self esteem. In addition to fragile, exaggerated self-esteem, narcissists are also characterized by a lack of empathy, that is, a lack of sensitivity to the feelings of others. These traits are present in most people to some degree but severe narcissism may warrant a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder.

RK has failed to realise the reason why his mother hid the fact Mohan Kundra was married before and had a son elseway before he married a second time to his mum. His mum hid this fact from him because he was so close to his dad, had she broken the illusion that he was a good person for him, he would have rebelled further probably left home after his mum married and don't know what would have happened to him on the street, believing he had a good father and Radhaji's using that father to to look at only MK's positives and tell her son, he believed in him someone to emulate and he achieved so much because he wanted to be as soon as the father that bore him. But RK has gone over the extreme with his various acts yesterday is refusal to treat his mother well and blaming her for the shooting of Sultan, shows lack of empathy, being self absorbed, In the hospital he refuses to take water from her to punish her that argument yesterday again is the same.


About RK's anger gussa towards his mother blaming her again, Madhu already told him after the shooting of Sultan, don't blame others you promised me that you would not go and meet him and you went so this has happened because of yourself don't blame others, Sultan wanted him to go Madhu told him it's a game a trap he didn't want to listen to her. Strangely to Bittuji today he said I don't want to go out because he might get into trouble right, so deep down he knows it's his fault what has happened with the shooting of Sultan, but he is just being spoilt brat, I think he missed all that fighting with his mum taunting her and saying the woman that gave birth to me, giving her silent treatment, I think he enjoys toying with people in this way, because Madhu won't stand for it now after they reconciled he has to find someone else, who better then his poor mum after all she was passive and watching him doing that to her for many years so he can start doing it again to her and she will just remain quiet. Why else would he start doing that to her when he admitted to Bittuji today that he doesn't want to go anyway as it will trouble them if he makes a mistake.


Madhu when she came into his life did try to change these traits he has but his mum is passive she tolerated when he gave her silent treatment and taunts her every now and again through Bittuji again he did it because inside it satisfies something when he taunts people, More then average higher self esteem we can see that his love for himself is huge and I think for him to keep believing in himself and his self worth he taunts and belittles others.


I confess I knew this from long back but I didn't care really, as all his bajaoing is entertaining, I just excuse this as there are not real people being hurt they are actors apply glycerine to their eyes and doing fake tears 🤣 and the others who take the bajaoing either retaliate like Madhu does, Sultan did also later, Radhaji the poor mum who loves him unconditionally is just taking it with no retaliation.


I didn't want to come here and put RK is a Narcissist with this explanation but it seems it was needed. As far as being a Psychopath I think like Sultan said the CV's are trying to show when Madhu is around him his madness (deewangi) is lessened he is content with her, it's under control when she loves him and is with him, Sultan said the minute she leaves him he will go crazy again.


Psychopathy (/sa?'k?p??i/[1]) is a personality or mental disorder[2][3][4][5] characterized partly by antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for remorse, and poor behavioral controls. We've seen that he definitely has a personality disorder, his antisocial where he doesn't to speak to people which won't add to his status and his objective to achieve dominance and fulfill his ambitions, during the unwedding he says wow enjoying the heartbreak of Madhu as she's sitting there completely heartbroken, yesterday his mother is crying did you see any remorse on his face nothing, after he shot Sultan for a brief moment slight remorse but thereafter nothing in the jail cell he said he doesn't regret killing him in the hospital the same, so it negates the few seconds of remorse on his face as he saw him fall over the cliff. 😳


So guys I think we shouldn't throw around these words...one is a Psychopath and my favourite is not because you see it depends on how you look at things, I've seen RK's narcissistic and psychopath behaviour and recognise it's only an entertainment show it's entertaining to see him act like a psycho, so leave the matter.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

Narcissism is the pattern of traits and behaviors which involve infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others and the egotistical and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.

@red - reminds me of a criminal who used his own son for his personal benefit, his own mother for again his personal benefit, his only friend for again his personal benefit🥱

@blue - reminds me of molester who cant respect a married woman's wishes, tries to bully or dominate her with his perversions, seeks his own gratification in others pain, and has the ambition of destroying innocent lives😵😵

narcissists are also characterized by a lack of empathy, that is, a lack of sensitivity to the feelings of others.

Of course it is a lack of empathy that gets RK all bothered and upset to see Madhu cry, its a lack of empathy that has him thanking his devoted secretary for his support on the day of haldi, its a lack of empathy that has him trying to control his anger for his distraught mom when a criminal barges into their home, its a lack of empathy that has him repenting the death of his "most hated enemy" because that guy was also a human! Most importantly its a lack of empathy that had RK surrendering to the police for taking a life.🥱🥱


But RK has gone over the extreme with his various acts yesterday is refusal to treat his mother well and blaming her for the shooting of Sultan, shows lack of empathy, being self absorbed, In the hospital he refuses to take water from her to punish her that argument yesterday again is the same.

Of course RK is self absorbed...its justified for a mother to lie for 20 years but its not justified for the son to be angry at her for some time...he is expected nay demanded to see reason immediately and settle all grievances that have hurt him so badly...he must forgive her overnight...he has no right to nurse his wounds and demand an explanation from her...he is a emotionless being after all...Mothers are always right but sons cannot be faulty human beings...words said in anger by RK make him lack empathy...but thought out lies and deceptions for 20 years demand accolades and justice...


he is just being spoilt brat, I think he missed all that fighting with his mum taunting her and saying the woman that gave birth to me, giving her silent treatment, I think he enjoys toying with people in this way, because Madhu won't stand for it now after they reconciled he has to find someone else, who better then his poor mum after all she was passive and watching him doing that to her for many years so he can start doing it again to her and she will just remain quiet.
@bold and red - thank god you think but "one" persons thoughts dont make any delusion come true😆...they still remain a figment of imagination🥱

@bold black - Bhai toyed with his son's life, then his mom's sad past, then RM life, then the court of justice and now innocent people's lives...gee I didnt know this criminal loved to play sooo much with toys...can someone please send him to kindergarten?😳


More then average higher self esteem we can see that his love for himself is huge and I think for him to keep believing in himself and his self worth he taunts and belittles others.

@bold - he is a superstar for 5 yrs who achieved that on his own merit...he deserves to love himself when the entire country loves him 😆

@red - keep thinking😆...still wont make it true🥱

As far as being a Psychopath I think like Sultan said the CV's are trying to show when Madhu is around him his madness (deewangi) is lessened he is content with her, it's under control when she loves him and is with him, Sultan said the minute she leaves him he will go crazy again.

@red - keep thinking some more...still not true cuz Sultan cant say CVs to show something🤣🤣

@blue - When did she love him? Are you watching another show with the same actors??😕

Is Bhai a "switch" to turn his madness on and off ??🤣🤣

Psychopathy (/sa?'k?p??i/[1]) is a personality or mental disorder[2][3][4][5] characterized partly by antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for remorse, and poor behavioral controls.

antisocial - does criminal or gangster or don ring a bell?🤣

diminished capacity for remorse - Has Bhai been remorseful for hurting RK and Madhu? RK was remorseful for even accidentally hurting a human being, albeit a criminal!🥱

poor behavioral controls.- does molesting a woman ring another bell??

nothing in the jail cell he said he doesn't regret killing him in the hospital the same, so it negates the few seconds of remorse on his face as he saw him fall over the cliff. 😳

@bold - true...dont misconstrue the facts please...RK never regrets killing Sultan a criminal...but he difinitely regretted killing a human being...Is surrendering to the police proof enough that he knows it was a crime, albeit in selfdefence.

Sultan doesnt even regret killing people in the chawl and encouraged Madhu to take a life...did he ever feel sorry for them or their families...psychopath! psychopath!!🥱

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Oh God !so long pravachan on Narcissim but I did not understand why RK was being related to it. 😕 Gyaan baantne k liyeh sukriya 😛
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Message received and discarded. 😛

Yes, only a narcissistic man bends down on one knee and confesses, apologizes for his sins to a girl he wronged after he comes to know just hours before his wedding that she was planning to ditch him at the last minute. Only a narcissistic man surrenders to police after killing a man in self-defense accidentally. Only a narcissistic man keeps quite when he is being insulted by prisoners for no good reason but fights back when they insult his wife without thinking of the danger he can face. Only a narcissist accepts his flaws out loud and calls himself a Kameena. Only a narcissist accepts that he was wrong and that it is his karma that came to bite him when he came to know the truth about his father, in front of his worst enemy.

Thanks for such a brilliant post, makes a lot of sense. 😛
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Originally posted by: mm990

Message received and discarded. 😛


Yes, only a narcissistic man bends down on one knee and confesses, apologizes for his sins to a girl he wronged after he comes know she was planning to ditch him at the last minute. Only a narcissistic man surrenders to police after killing a man in self-defense accidentally. Only a narcissistic man keeps quite when he is being insulted by prisoners for no good reason but fights back when they insult his his wife without thinking of the danger he can face. Only a narcissist accepts his flaws out loud and calls himself a Kameena. Only a narcissist accepts that he was wrong and that it is his karma that came to bite him when he came to know the truth about his father, in front of his worst enemy.

Thanks for such a brilliant post, makes a lot of sense. 😛


Bold: you are welcome 😊


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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart


Bold: you are welcome 😊



Glad to know. 😉

Amazing argument by the way. 👏
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

Narcissism is the pattern of traits and behaviors which involve infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.

On the outside, a narcissist appears to have higher than average self-esteem. Paradoxically, the narcissist's self-esteem is lower. For the narcissist, self-worth comes from the belief that he/she is superior to his/her peers; it is not enough to be "okay" or "pretty good," the narcissist can only feel worthwhile by being the best. It is this struggle of the narcissist to convince others of his/her superiority that results in the outward appearance of high self-esteem, and the inadequacy that the narcissist feels from not being the absolute best that results in the narcissist's low self esteem. In addition to fragile, exaggerated self-esteem, narcissists are also characterized by a lack of empathy, that is, a lack of sensitivity to the feelings of others. These traits are present in most people to some degree but severe narcissism may warrant a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder.


Thank you for describing Sultan so well. Thank you Thank you😆😆


See how:

infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others : Wants a woman irrespective of her feelings. Wants revenge from a man who did nothing to harm him (papa sins transferred to son)


egoistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.: doesnt care about the cost to others in his pursuance of what he wants.


For the narcissist, self-worth comes from the belief that he/she is superior to his/her peers; it is not enough to be "okay" or "pretty good," the narcissist can only feel worthwhile by being the best.: telling others how to take care of their wife, treat women etc. - though himself doesnot know how to protect or care for either kids or women or bechara chawlwallahs and even manhandles & blackmails women


narcissists are also characterized by a lack of empathy, that is, a lack of sensitivity to the feelings of others: more than evident from current track.


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I just wanted to tell you something I haven't read anything you've replied 😛😆


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Originally posted by: mm990

Message received and discarded. 😛


Yes, only a narcissistic man bends down on one knee and confesses, apologizes for his sins to a girl he wronged after he comes to know just hours before his wedding that she was planning to ditch him at the last minute. Only a narcissistic man surrenders to police after killing a man in self-defense accidentally. Only a narcissistic man keeps quite when he is being insulted by prisoners for no good reason but fights back when they insult his wife without thinking of the danger he can face. Only a narcissist accepts his flaws out loud and calls himself a Kameena. Only a narcissist accepts that he was wrong and that it is his karma that came to bite him when he came to know the truth about his father, in front of his worst enemy.

Thanks for such a brilliant post, makes a lot of sense. 😛


Great reply Bharia👏
Only a narcissistic man can accept his mistakes and apologise😆

Narcissistic men Do Not molest married women, force their sleazy wishes on others and threaten murder if they dont get what they want 🥱🥱
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

I just wanted to tell you something I haven't read anything you've replied 😛😆




As expected. That's why you're so good with your arguments. 👏

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