Define a villain!! DT Note (replied) pg 10 - Page 7

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Posted: 12 years ago
#61
good question but to some people the villain is not a villain as long as he is according to them is smoky hot which by the way this sultan is not or as long as he shows his body 🤢 neglecting women's right or respect or even humanity 😔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dvs_smiRK

A great post and question which demands answering. The actor portraying the character has himself declared to have become a villain, video proof and all; so why such unjust towards members highlighting his heinous actions. What is it that's exactly trying to be conveyed here? that we need to worship a villain for Perving, Letching, Blackmailing, Terrorising, but don't dare condemn šŸ˜• because you will hurt the sentiments of those that may support villain and his actions šŸ¤”


I don't care two hoots about sentiments of a handful people who find pleasure when a women is being molested by a sleazebag..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

Good post Cardio. I had recently read an article about what makes a great villain and thought I can share it here.

http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/2012/09/screenwriting-article-how-to-write_27.html

I am sure there are various point of views amongst us but to me villain is an attitude which commands a grudging respect from the audience.


Thanks MM!! I agree.. He fails as a villain in that department, but succeeds in creeping us out and evoking disgust in us..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bloody_Affair

Amazing post, Cardio šŸ‘!!! I'm new here, but have already formed my opinion about this forum. After reading several posts in regards to Sultan and his set of actions, I have come to conclusion that character appreciation is overpowering moral standards . People are entitled to support any character in this show; however, applauding, promoting, and encouraging wrong& wicked set of actions of any character is an absurd behavior 🤢.

A happily married woman is being presented with an indecent proposal from a hoodlum🤢🤢🤢. Just like any honorable woman, she rejects the proposal; tells the hoodlum to go to hell. Hoodlum gets enraged and attacks her beloved husband🤢🤢🤢. All of sudden this is her fault since she provoked the Hoodlum and did not agree to his disgusting proposal 😲😲😲. The Hoodlum does not share any responsibility towards his horrendous actions because he was forced to take such an action😔😔😔??? I guess Hoodlum=Hero for some viewers šŸ˜•šŸ˜•šŸ˜•???

Your curiosity for the villain definition in this forum reminded me about this quote; it servers this situation the best:

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." 'Voltaire.


Thanks!! I loved ur comment. šŸ‘It's awesome and sadly true..
I agree.. I have read something on these lines.. like The only time u get away with murders is when you do it in millions..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: nikhilageet

Great post Kashish šŸ‘. Sullu has crossed all imaginable and unimaginable levels of decency and I have been so disgusted with this that have stopped watching for the past week


I hope we all can soon go back to watching the show... 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Looteri_Dulhan

Whoever the villain is, but in this forum you can't even comment bad i.e bash negative characters coz it instigates fans and then fan wars happen. Aur beloved DT has then decided to lock down all those posts without caring much abt the post content and all.šŸ‘ they are taking away our freedom of speech to stop fan wars. Wow what a reason!šŸ‘
I dunno what they are doing here then? Just locking down the post coz it is reported thats it!šŸ‘


I think we deserve a better answer than this.. It's high time we accept that Sultan is a villain and his actions will be bashed.. Isn't it enough that there is no moral police to close the posts glorifying the disgusting deeds of a gangster... 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
#67
My question is a villain is made to do vaiianous acts so that people can hate him na? If we love him or praise his acts how does it reflect on our mentality?

How is it wrong to call an Apple an apple & an orange an orange.

If the PH can call the character negative, if the actor portraying it can call it negative why cant we?
& a negative character is introduced so that it can be hated not loved.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#68
I won't say anything about the villain, because people live in some delusional world.

I am just appalled by the mods of this forum.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hello Everyone,

Since the whole thread consists of more or less same question as to why criticism is not allowed, I believe we all are talking about constructive criticism. Hence I'd like to clarify here on the behalf of MBEIEJ DT that any constructive criticism for any characters be it Villain or Hero is allowed and you're welcome to discuss and speculate things on the character abiding the rules of the forum.

Additionally there is always a thin line between criticism and bashing. A critic is some one who does not loose the main theme of the issue being discussed and would present his opinions in rather objective way free from prejudices and creates a neutral environment for everyone who wants to have a say on that issue. I am not implying saying that critique only needs to be saying positive words, negative comments which are free from hurling curses, name calling, harsh comments, abusive terms are more then welcome. Criticism on the character is allowed and please feel free to criticise them and no one will stop you but any sorts of bashing will not be allowed in the name criticism.

May be we all can agree on this that discussion often take vigorous turn when there are two opposite views trying to demean each other just to make one's point worth high than the other. I believe the least we all can do is " Agree to Disagree" and respect contrary opinions.

Having said that and this post on being as to why criticism is not allowed, I'd sincerely request all the members here who belive that mods are being ruthless on closing specific topic which was a criticism or could have led to constructive criticism to just self reflect on the thread that has been closed from yesterday (as mentioned) and if there was any topic that did not violate rules ( name calling, mocking, pinpointing contrary fan bases, personal attack, bashing) and was only criticising characters be it negative or positive, to flag it up to the DT. And we assure you that it will be open as per your demand.

Ps I appreciate the TM efforts on flagging this issue in an appropriate way.


Regards
MBEIEJ DT
Edited by -Misek- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: -Misek-

Hello Everyone,

Since the whole thread consists of more or less same question as to why criticism is not allowed, I believe we all are talking about constructive criticism. Hence I'd like to clarify here on the behalf of MBEIEJ DT that any constructive criticism for any characters be it Villain or Hero is allowed and you're welcome to discuss and speculate things on the character abiding the rules of the forum.

Additionally there is always a thin line between criticism and bashing. A critic is some one who does not loose the main theme of the issue being discussed and would present his opinions in rather objective way free from prejudices and creates a neutral environment for everyone who wants to have a say on that issue. I am not implying saying that critique only needs to be saying positive words, negative comments which are free from hurling curses, name calling, harsh comments, abusive terms are more then welcome. Criticism on the character is allowed and please feel free to criticise them and no one will stop you but any sorts of bashing will not be allowed in the name criticism.

May be we all can agree on this that discussion often take vigorous turn when there are two opposite views trying to demean each other just to make one's point worth high than the other. I believe the least we all can do is " Agree to Disagree" and respect contrary opinions.

Having said that and this post on being as to why criticism is not allowed, I'd sincerely request all the members here who belive that mods are being ruthless on closing specific topic which was a criticism or could have led to constructive criticism to just self reflect on the thread that has been closed from yesterday (as mentioned) and if there was any topic that did not violate rules ( name calling, mocking, pinpointing contrary fan bases, personal attack, bashing) and was only criticising characters be it negative or positive, to flag it up to the DT. And we assure you that it will be open as per your demand.

Ps I appreciate the TM efforts on flagging this issue in an appropriate way.


Regards

MBEIEJ DT

Thanks so much for your reply!!
but I just wanted to bring to your notice that one of my post was closed citing a reason because I called the 'villain' of our show a 'lechy bas***d'. why is it wrong?
So how can a woman, who bashed her own favorite during the unwedding, not be disgusted by a character stooping to new lows with each episode!!
Diplai was addressed as a bitch multiple times for her evil intentions, RK an abusive, rapist, psychopath; Madhu characterless, doormat, desperate woman in heat, and what not!!
why is that when the villain addressed as a bas***d hurts sentiments, even when he is acting like one? there are posts which glorify his actions, adding fuel to fire. dont you think such posts might be the reason for people to get so aggressed? There is nothing in the show which shows RK as abusive, and Madhu as doormat.. but still posts mention them as one!!
so when the 'villain' is actually acting as a 'lechy bas***d', why arent we allowed to vent? dont you think that inappropriate touching of a disinterested and disgusted female labelled as a 'issh issh' moments might be inciting a few to let the venom out??
that was just my take. I will edit my posts and repost them.. thanks for ur time!!!
On another note, we never abused the actor!! but the character, who deserves every bit of the 'respect' he is getting..
Edited by cardio21 - 12 years ago

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