Episode 293 Discussion: 8th June 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: river123

And Sultan - 25????? I think he might be in his early 30s - he was probably 6-7 when his mother-who-was-not-really-his-mother died, add 25 years to that, so thats 32 ish.

I vaguely remember Sultan saying that he was 8 years old when his mom died. So that makes him 33 now. He must be 4 years elder to RK

Enjoyed the on location marriage video much more than the episode today.

Today i felt Sultan has officially turned an antagonist. Really felt a pang when he murdered his not-real dad. Thought about RK at that time😲. Yes, i remember Sultan killing people during Holi episode, but those were goons trying to kill him, so he was kind of justified. But this was someone who brought him up for 8 years and he killed him without even listening to his part of the story
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: war_is_peace

..coz his trust was still building up to reach that point but dips broke it...so yaa i dont believe its a myth...


You mean all bark and no bite? I still think (based on Dip's comments at various points) that it was physical.

PS: can't believe I fixating on this today of all days! Sad commentary on the episode. I began the day fully expecting to watch the episode 3 times at least. Instead, had to content myself with fast forwarding half (you all know which half)...and then re-watching the other half once to see whether I missed anything...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: river123


You mean all bark and no bite? I still think (based on Dip's comments at various points) that it was physical.
hahaha! yeah i mean that...they may have kissed n all not the nxt step...

PS: can't believe I fixating on this today of all days! Sad commentary on the episode. I began the day fully expecting to watch the episode 3 times at least. Instead, had to content myself with fast forwarding half (you all know which half)...and then re-watching the other half once to see whether I missed anything...
cant help the episode gave us nothing!! 😡

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Posted: 12 years ago
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So to remind us all what this episode was about (or at least, should have been all about):





credit: Colors tweet.
Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


I think Sultan wouldn't have been so repulsive if he had been played by a competent actor. Look at Sikky - he manages to hold the viewers attention in every scene he features in, even when he is just standing on the sidelines and watching quietly. Look at Seema Mishra - she brings Deepali to life and we admire her even when we hate her. Kuku Bhatia has never been given any special attention by the CVs yet he is so entertaining to watch.

And then there is Sultan who gets so much support from the CVs but watching him is as interesting as watching paint dry.

Mr. Bajaj of Kasauti Zindagi Ki broke up the hit pair of Anurag-Prerna and still got audience sympathy because he was played by a very good actor. If Avinesh Rekhi was put in that role, KSK too would have gone the MB way.

Though I don't want to comment on actors what you say is true.This actor could not emote at all. He appears still more worse and pale with R.K.'s fabulous acting. (Comparing two actors is not my idea , just an observation) an equally talented actor would have been bearable.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: river123


You mean all bark and no bite? I still think (based on Dip's comments at various points) that it was physical.

PS: can't believe I fixating on this today of all days! Sad commentary on the episode. I began the day fully expecting to watch the episode 3 times at least. Instead, had to content myself with fast forwarding half (you all know which half)...and then re-watching the other half once to see whether I missed anything...


Yes Dips hinted it in earlier episodes. I remember her saying give me those nights or something. So I am under the impression it was physical.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: subashni



ya so true..its d actor who makes d character alive..vch in ds show ech n every actor hs been well capable o from RK to sikky to dippali to bhatiaji to evn trishna all hv brought life to dere characters xcept ds one goody boy😡😡

agn comin to actors i feel so sorry for my leads... DVD hv been working so hard 4 d show to make every scene f dere's perfect... n makers jst butcher dere scenes like ds..so unfair to dem!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Do channel or PH understand the meaning of word 'special'? They advertised this episode as 'shadi special' ... so what is shown with respect to that term?

It was supposed to be most awaited wedding of most loved couple and what we got to see? Few short films of those wedding joined carelessly.. What a wedding..what a JOKE.

And elders presence and active involvement is very much important in any shadi...and what happened here? Elders standing aside without any true involvement! PH/Channel/Creatives/Script Writers...aap logo ki shadi nahi hui hai? Ya phir aap logo ne kisi dusre shows me shadi kaisi hoti hai ye dekha nahi hai? WTH?

Anyways...something is better than nothing. At least shadi dikha to di.

It may be they wanted to show that at one side happiness is spreading everywhere and on the other side sad shocking past is getting revealed which is connected to the happiness of other and then big storm is ready to destroy the happiness.

But here CVs failed to create the two parallel stories side by side...In order to glorify a third entity they tried to sell him by trying love triangel where they got huge set back from viewers. But their love for that entity is not allowing them to stay calm so this new family tree revealation ..to keep the entity in this show and create the drama which is not at all suiting here. The are developing parallel story on wrong time and in due course spoiling the main story...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

POOR EXECUTION of the Episode.


Was it Rishbala Shaadi Special or Sultan-Mummy Discovery Special ?

AESTHETICS
The CVs lack it. They have no sense of beauty and how to present. Their strong forte is only LOUD Drama. While that was good for Hate, Revenge and Passionate kind of drama including expressing passionate love, LOUDNESS is never beautiful for Love that comes across as romance which is supposed to be soft and subtle. Indeed the moments in the wedding were interspersed with such moments between Rishbala, but editing and interplay of the parallel track has shown us where the priorities lie for the CVs The MARRIAGE is not important for CVs, it is only Rishbala as One Unit is important or we can also say, MARRIAGE is just a mean to add drama and is NOT AN EXPRESSION of LOVE between the two. Because it was clear the dramatist was not liking their marriages and was interested in showing the other story happening in parallel.

Aesthetically every poorly done sequence.

They could have added extra moments with interspersed dialogues with RK and Madhu agreeing for marriage and in RESPITE and RELIEF, Radhaji and Bittuji frantically giving commands around their drivers to go home fetch the Dupatta, Pagdi etc, Giving orders to house-servants over phone what else they had to bring. I NEEDED to see little bit of drama from the house-members of RK Mansion and how they are going ahead with wedding now that Var-Vadhu are standing there for wedding. But THEY WERE ALL JUST MUTE.

Very poorly executed drama in the sense of family bonding as well. The Mother does not come forward to say anything...as if she is no Matron of the two youngsters there. What was the need for the Public Ceremony if there was no need for elders around the wedding preps.

Totally disappointing Wedding Special.

And welcome to Sultan-Mummy Discovery Special. The strong forte of being LOUD Drama specialists aids Nautanki Films to intersperse the Sultan drama in between the wedding. We can see HOW SULTAN is IMPORTANT to the SHOW now.

So that's about it. A journey of Superstar's interest in Chawlbala's guts to send him to jail ends in his getting married. Today, I went to a zone where I was in last July...thinking why would an ordinary girl go after a Superstar and why would a Superstar go after an Ordinary Girl. That Mystery began, got me interested with drunken wedding and now Ends with CV's LOW-PRIORITY Actual Marriage with Full Rites.

Now time for NEW INCREDIBLES. Include a Gangster and weave impossible drama.

Well Mr. Saurabh Tewari, here's my feedback to you.
Agreed you like loudness and you like people talking about your show, even if has to be disgusting tone, but then you see, sometimes, people are just too exhausted to even discuss and give a heck to your attempts. So Good Luck with your penchant for LOUD Drama. But yes, if you ever want to think, please pay attention to AESTHETICS of Drama as well. You will go miles. And please pick a good episode story writer for your shows. Overall story is good, but Episodic Story Presentation Sucks Big Time. See that it was SHEFALI SHAH. 👎🏼 Very Poor Execution !


Shridevi


110% agree. This episode felt more like "Sultan: Ek raz, ek Haqeeqat" rather than Madhubala, ek Ishq, ek junoon. I know due to the leads being very busy, CV's have to introduce new tracks, but come on, guys! Time and place, and for heaven's sake, interest. No one cares about Don. Pack him back to Dubai and reintroduce Kuku Bhatia as the villian. The actor playing him has great screen presence and menaces very well.
Edited by apolloartemis - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


There there u said it, totally agree

Every Charecter in the show is brought to life by actors and we enjoy the shades and depths of the characters. Where sultan totally fails to connect with audiences.
I am surprised cvs are determined to glorify him to that extent?? Is he related to someone or what? Though people are not accepting him he is being forced down our throats.
They desperately tried for triangle, which failed miserably now they are coming up with absolute nonsense.

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