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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zoya_naziya


According to me it was sheer emotional manipulation on Madhu's part knowing very well the fact that RK would rather die than let her die... She was playing with his weakness which is SHE herself... It was nothing but a means to strengthen her prem-game and RK himself handed her the opportunity... It was RK who was vulnerable and fearful... Madhu was cold, calculative and two steps ahead of him the entire date... Both Madhu and RK are to be equally blamed for the terrace pagalpan...


And emotional manipulation is what an intelligent and proud mind abhors.

That day RK took one level by aiming her heart. Madhu took a higher level by aiming his existence through her life.

Ek ne dil ki parwaah nahin ki, doore ne jaan ki parwaah nahin ki. All it needed was Madhu to get onto terrace and give a tight slap to RK for blackmailing her like that.

All Madhu had to do was give a tight slap to RK after tying his bleeding hand for cutting his hand.

This is how crazy people are cured.

But here everything happens opposite.

First one slaps a police case, going at length, then real slaps and then no slaps at all.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


I meant that this could mean pushing RK into a corner by telling him just before the wedding. The wedding is in a couple of hours, all the poojas and ceremonies have been done and only pheras are left. Was she planning to tell him just before entering the mandap? How is a man supposed to take such a revelation just before his wedding?

It was utter foolishness on Madhu's part to think that she would tell him at the last moment. One needs time to let such a shock sink in. RK is right in wondering if she was planning to tell him before the wedding or after. The 'kabhi nahi' was most probably his anger talking.


Agree with CR.

Kabhi nahin part was exaggerating figure of speech to drive home the point to Madhu that she was dilly dallying when she should have stopped him from going ahead the moment she receded on her revenge plan...coz marriage was part of revenge plan. So revenge drop to marriage should also drop. Fresh decision can be taken later. So his question is valid...when she was planning to tell...That's his anger and hence more stressing because, she was discussing THAT with SULTAN. Now why would a woman discuss her intimate thoughts of her and her love of her life with another person. So was it Sultan who PUT THAT IDEA of revelation in her mind or was IT MADHU's own idea.

Everything WAS SuSpEcT.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: subashni

Somehow I am not convinced with this episode. Yesterday this thought did occur to me. All his FB's started from him dragging madhu back into his life. He conveniently forgot about his prem game which started everything. Today he never once acknowledged his past doings and how madhu was shattered.


For that you need to go back to April 17th episode...the hawa hawai song day.

RK that day acknowledges that he did wrong with her and that Madhu can call it within her to forgive him and forget his sinful action. He asks her why can't she do it when she advised him to get over his hurt.

Before Madhu can answer Sultan comes as Aashique Pistolia ruining their conversation. And then RK goes ahead with Hero, heroine and Villain story. That same evening Madhu fakes that she came truly to him. He does not believe her giving in and so goes for other tests.

But point in his mind is that...he thinks Madhu forgave and forgot his unwedding drama and so returned to him. But all he realizes that she did not come back like he thought, but came back to avenge him. And this he is unable to digest at this moment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hum aah bhi karte hain to ho jate hain badnaam,
Wo qatal bhi karte hain to charcha nahin hota.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


For that you need to go back to April 17th episode...the hawa hawai song day.

RK that day acknowledges that he did wrong with her and that Madhu can call it within her to forgive him and forget his sinful action. He asks her why can't she do it when she advised him to get over his hurt.

Before Madhu can answer Sultan comes as Aashique Pistolia ruining their conversation. And then RK goes ahead with Hero, heroine and Villain story. That same evening Madhu fakes that she came truly to him. He does not believe her giving in and so goes for other tests.

But point in his mind is that...he thinks Madhu forgave and forgot his unwedding drama and so returned to him. But all he realizes that she did not come back like he thought, but came back to avenge him. And this he is unable to digest at this moment.



I would have thought that now he should be in a better position to understand why it was difficult for Madhu to forgive since it is becoming difficult for him to forgive her even the thought of hurting him.


It is clear that RK mentally excuses his own actions because he considers himself a right kameena who is capable of ruthlessness and he was counting on Madhu's goodness to look past his actions and embrace him with all his flaws. Now that he knows that she too hurts as much as he does and is capable of retaliating to ease her own hurt, he should be more careful before hurting her. He also has had first hand experience of how much hurting her hurts him. If he did not get this jolt, I guess he could have continued to take her love for granted.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: alexch

Madhu is innocent and absolutely not guilty - a person can not be punished for thinking any criminal activity, unless implemented. I dont know why Madhu is being so apologetic, she should show RK the reality; what he did to her, and what she only thought about it.

Hum aah bhi karte hain to ho jate hain badnaam,
Wo qatal bhi karte hain to charcha nahin hota.

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So if a loved one 'intended' to harm you but had a change of heart midway, does it lessen the hurt to the party the harm was intended to..??

You may be right legally, but emotionally the fact remains that they DID intend to harm you..😊

Sorry this issue has been bugging me whole through MF and I'm tired of hearing that an intended crime becomes non-existent if you don't complete it..!!😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well today's episode is just half of the confrontation,
Today rk did the talking, madhu faced questions she couldn't justify and kept repeating ILU, forgive and all. I just remembered rk repeating " love and haq "as he couldn't justify his unwedding.

It's not like he couldn't see that he is the reason why his madhu has changed so much. He is hurt and is taking out, I think he is comparatively calmer.

The thought that HIS MADHU actually conspired against him that too with SULTHAN is actually driving him crazy. She failed him before his opponent!

He is totally a private person and discussing about his vulnerabilities with someone else is totally not digestible to him. As we know takes a lot for rk to let his dearest ones to see that side of him.

I am looking forward to madhu explaining tomorrow. For sure the dent in his heart is not going to vanish. Now he will deburden from that guilt and start afresh with newtons law every action has a reaction be it madhu or someone else. Nobody is an exception.

Paddo attends the wedding to enlighten madhu that she has sent Sulthan fiasco?

And what's up with BHAI PURAN? Who cares, seriously that too in between rishabala scenes. I feel like I am watching some different show in between,
Cvs are determined to hook him to rk in one way or other,
I am not interested and doesn't want to know, can't they create a better track with Sikki or Trishna,
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0



Agree with CR.

Kabhi nahin part was exaggerating figure of speech to drive home the point to Madhu that she was dilly dallying when she should have stopped him from going ahead the moment she receded on her revenge plan...coz marriage was part of revenge plan. So revenge drop to marriage should also drop. Fresh decision can be taken later. So his question is valid...when she was planning to tell...That's his anger and hence more stressing because, she was discussing THAT with SULTAN. Now why would a woman discuss her intimate thoughts of her and her love of her life with another person. So was it Sultan who PUT THAT IDEA of revelation in her mind or was IT MADHU's own idea.

Everything WAS SuSpEcT.




I agree that she should have come clean when the revenge was no longer on and she had decided to stick on with him because she loved him as much. However, I dont agree that she should have stopped the wedding because it was part of the revenge plan. It was RK's idea to get married and he wanted it because he loved her. Madhu agreed in order to extract her revenge but later realised that she too loves him. So after the confession why should she not make it clear that she does want the marriage as much as he does, rather than tell him the wedding was off?


I agree with you that no man would like the woman he loves discuss intimate details of her relationship with another man and Madhu clearly crossed her line there. But then can the pot call the kettle black? Didn't he drive her to seeking support elsewhere? If you recollect, Madhu did not share the details of her relationship with RK and asked Sultan to back off. It is only on the bollywood party night that she confided everything to Sultan and that too it was more of an outburst at being constantly subjected to RK's suspicions and authoritarianism. She had to explain why she asked him to attend the party and get slapped by RK. Though I admit that two wrongs do not make a right and these two will have to thrash out their misgivings and forgive each other.


As to Sultan putting the idea in her mind, it seems ridiculous after what RK heard. Sultan was clearly goading her to not back off from the revenge. Why would he want her to come clean and start afresh with RK.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti



I would have thought that now he should be in a better position to understand why it was difficult for Madhu to forgive since it is becoming difficult for him to forgive her even the thought of hurting him.


It is clear that RK mentally excuses his own actions because he considers himself a right kameena who is capable of ruthlessness and he was counting on Madhu's goodness to look past his actions and embrace him with all his flaws. Now that he knows that she too hurts as much as he does and is capable of retaliating to ease her own hurt, he should be more careful before hurting her. He also has had first hand experience of how much hurting her hurts him. If he did not get this jolt, I guess he could have continued to take her love for granted.


The other thought RK can also have is ...HIS Madhu could have still continued saying NO to him. Why fake Prem Game?

What RK is realizing that not just he has the king size ego. Even Madhu can have it, which he did not count for earlier. He always knew her heart was strong and never concentrated on her ego.

I was particularly interested in yesterday's episode when RK twitched his face when he heard Madhu explaining to Sultan ..."Jab Swabhimaan kuchla jaata hai, to kaisa lagta hai"

I smiled at time. because my all time fav words for RK was when he explains to Madhu post his revenge wedding morning ...Maan Samman Abhimaan, Apmaan, a retort to Madhu's Meri Maa mera Abhimaan hai. And Madhu was here using just right before her wedding, that kind of word which can HIT only RK. 😆 SWAABHIMAAN !!!! I always knew Madhu was hurt for this and that's why we had that poster Ahankar for so long. She pitted her Swaabhimaan against his Ego. And RK registered it for the first time. Else he was happily thinking that Madhu always pitted her HEART against his EGO. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti



I would have thought that now he should be in a better position to understand why it was difficult for Madhu to forgive since it is becoming difficult for him to forgive her even the thought of hurting him.


It is clear that RK mentally excuses his own actions because he considers himself a right kameena who is capable of ruthlessness and he was counting on Madhu's goodness to look past his actions and embrace him with all his flaws. Now that he knows that she too hurts as much as he does and is capable of retaliating to ease her own hurt, he should be more careful before hurting her. He also has had first hand experience of how much hurting her hurts him. If he did not get this jolt, I guess he could have continued to take her love for granted.


One is never in a good position to understand betrayal. RK respects Madhu for being so forgiving. He put her on a pedestal for accepting him back in her life. He was not going to take her for granted this time. The fact that she was acting all this while and meant to ditch him at the mandap has shaken his foundations. Even more hurting is her sharing all this with Sultan.

His own betrayal is going to come back to haunt him now. And it will also give him the clarity for his future actions. That is why he is going to forgive Madhu's betrayal eventually. Remember he never forgave Deepali for the same thing?


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