Episode 251 Discussion: 20th April 2013

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war_is_peace

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Soundarya22
Ok, I'm going to be bashed for this. I have a different take on today's episode. It looks like I am completely the oddball here.

I'd always wondered if that fantabulous love confession RK made to madhu in the farmhouse was staged, then what would his real love confession be like? i thought today I saw a love confession, of course immediately his ahankaar qualifies it saying, I may or may not love you... but he says my heart goes Madhu, Madhu, Madhu, not dhak dhak dhak. H said he felt like killing her, and then would have shot himself to punish himself. Twisted completely..how do you resolve a complicated loverboy like RK?

has Madhu figured out? She knows she loves him, he loves her, will not admit it. She may not be planning revenge, but definitely plans to teach him a lesson in her own way. And somehow, my curiosity is piqued about how this is going to go.

I liked madhu-Trishna's conversation.
I liked how RK still calls Paddy Sasuma. i thought she would object, but she did'nt !!?? Then what's the problem? What's all the fuss about if everybody accepts the relationship for what it is?? 😆
Though I did not like Sultan's line about Madhu being his wife..RK deserved it for calling him up!!
Again, it looks like someone caught on to the confusion in the forum about what he actually said the other day...madhu meri biwi hoti or meri biwi hoti...naubat nahi aati dialogue. Caught onto it, and made Sultan say it...agar Madhu meri biwi hoti...there, take that Sulbala fans or Rishbala fans.. with love from Nautanki.!!?? The fan groups here that I thought were immature, and blah blah seem to have a great hold on the CVS..

@bold : i loved the episode..

@red : it almost was a love confession...but, he has done it before as well...remember all those things he said before he kidnapped her.."ek ishq aisa hoga jo naa jeene dega naa marne dega"

n then also the knife scene "khatam kardo iss prem kahani ko"

@blue : 😆😆

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Zoya my friend, I had the same thought...I got worried about myself because I actually liked the episode, liked RK's rant, liked Madhu's silence😆

No we are not sadists.

We just wanted honesty. In its barest form.

This for all those who liked today's episode.

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war_is_peace

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Sounds,

Very good take there. 👍🏼

The difference between the farmhouse confession and confessions that he is giving now, is that that they show diametrically opposite personalities.

RK in farmhouse was collected, suave and intelligent and Madhu totally loved him for that charm, elan and all.

RK on 11th April and today (20th April) is a disturbed, deranged man and talking about death if Madhu is not in his life or does not love him. And Madhu, though she sees his love for her, she is not liking the man at all. She despises him because he is distasteful and not that he is dishonest.

Its not a matter of trust here for Madhu. Its the matter on more primal instincts.

Liking which should lead to Love.

How simple and yet how true.

If you see from my eyes, today, I learnt a lesson and I am not sure if Madhu learnt a lesson.

Never trust anyone's love when he/she loves your craziness because no one can like our crazy/idiosyncratic habits. Eventually people start despising you. We have Salman Khan's live example there as how his women try to change him later on.

Start Accepting anyone's company when you see that he or she tolerates you inspite of your irritating craziness and respect them for accepting you in wholesome manner without trying to change you. Because we cannot negate our basic nature.

And finally, if you like someone, say it. Pyaar hoga ya nahin hoga dekha jaayega. But liking should always be there to keep going.

Today RK and Madhu have stalemate because Madhu is not liking RK and RK clearly said that..."Tadap" is missing. There is no desire, no attraction for me. How poignant. 😊

but then i hav been thinking this since feb that the RK that madhu loves does not exist at all...again identity crisis...so what does she connect to as far as this unmasked RK is concerned??😲

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ennishet

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Posted: 12 years ago

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RK did say that he would kill Madhu if she dared to walk out or love someone else. I thought I was hearing things. My God, the audacity! He equates Madhu's four slaps and his humiliation to his taking revenge and Madhu's subsequent humiliation. So no need of any apology/making it up from his viewpoint 😲

On the other hand he spelt out how he felt about Madhu. His heart goes Madhu Madhu instead of Dhak Dhak. Is there any better way to say how he feels and how he can't live without Madhu? Madhu seemed shocked and dazed initially and her expression turned to understanding at the end of RK's rant.

The outburst had me betting here comes a forceful hug and bingo ... RK went ahead with it, though it looked a bit uncomfortable for Madhu.

He tells the Press that both husband wife have patched up and are together but refuses to call Madhu for a quote. Maybe he is worried Madhu will give out a statement to the contrary. RK is planning something, heard about a dinner date with Madhu in some thread. Is that what he is planning only to find that Madhu is nowhere on the sets. Poor Bittuji!

Madhu's convo with Trishna at the chawl didn't shed any light on what she intends to do. There was determination in her eyes and she didn't lie as to how she ended up at RK Mansion. Did anyone find Trishna's acting a bit OTT. Her sisterly concern was great, I just hope it stays around when the going gets tough for Madhu. Loved it that Madhu has Trishna's full support ... knowing that Padmini will disown her, this support will be a great asset for Madhu.

I don't understand why RK had to leave Madhu's phone at the studio and stomp off to her chawl. Couldn't he have got Sultan's number from her phone? He further questions Padmini and Sultan the whereabouts of his wife! RK still addresses Padmini as 'Sasuma' that was amusing. Sultan must think him to be crazy that he would have any information about his missing wife. He has to rub it in that Madhu must have made a big decision about her life and left him.

Precap shows Sultan giving some gyaan to RK on how to succeed in keeping your wife happy. I suppose Madhu will be at RK Mansion coolly waiting for a fuming RK to return back home. While she might not be planning revenge, but she sure seems to have a few plans to teach her ex umm current husband a few lessons.

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anastasia21

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Progress! 10secs less of "Ab tak" today than yesterday. I paid attention today - the narration was surprisingly more crisp and bulls-eyed - lekin kahaani mein yeh pata nahi chal paa raha hai ki heroine hero ko pyar karti hai yaa villain ko, aaiye, dekhte hain.

Had a small LOL moment.

Uff RK and his penchant for DRRRAMAAA !!!! Nah, I don't do that anymore, I wouldn't be left with any nails then. All I was thinking that they probably shouldn't engage this much on an empty stomach. Weren't they supposed to eat on the sets? Did RK have dinner last night? He lost so much blood from the slash on his hand, then danced on the street, faced Sultan, is perpetually angry all the time - how is he even functioning? Anyways, diving into the actual episode content - RK is all over the place with his proclamation of love and declaration of his constraints and his incapability to understand as to what sort of an answer and how much of its reiteration is going to actually calm him down. He needs someone (not necessarily Madhu) or something to anchor him. Yes, he needs help, he needs love, he probably needs medication - but first and foremost, he needs to resurface from this hysteria. Because I don't know what Madhu will do - leave him or help him. She has the liberty to do either and RK deserves to be remorseful - but I don't believe he deserves to lose his sanity in the process.

On the other hand, Madhu, who looked quite alarmed in the studio, calmly lands in the chawl, to do what exactly now? To have a chat with Trishna but keep Padmini in the dark. Err, what kind of plan is this? She is not carrying any wallet, phone, eyes not on the road, she is just walking while contemplating God-knows-what, chitchats with Trishna, fails to reach any reasonable conclusion, and takes-off before RK lands there. Speaking of phone, did Madhu's phone flew inside the studio from the vanity?

RK in the chawl. Chawl people, now you guys are looking? What happened on the Holi day eh? RK had a lot of nerve just dropping in unannounced and then snatching away his Sasuma's phone. Perhaps in his mad rage and rush, he forgot he had Madhu's phone with him which had Sultan's number. But mother of all horrors , now Padmini has Sultan's numbers saved in her phonebook! Padmini ji ho kya gaya hai aapko?? Fraternizing with a gangster!!! The dubious look you were giving to your ex-damaad when he was ranting about Sultan - I've to admit I was baffled. Was it just her face or was it because she knew Madhu is hiding under the bed or because she was thinking "My curses, coming alive, muahaha !! " ?

Last shot and the precap - Gawd Sultan! You, and your weird-collared shirts and unwarranted advices!

Here's a suggestion -

. Stop pretending like you're a part of this or you've a hang of things and definitely stop saying, "agar Madhu meri patni hoti".

Dude, you had a wife. She died. Stop vying for someone else's!

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: vd-rocks
but then i hav been thinking this since feb that the RK that madhu loves does not exist at all...again identity crisis...so what does she connect to as far as this unmasked RK is concerned??😲

True that 👍🏼

And this is the second Phase story in development.

Madhu and RK were trying to move away from each other.

RK restablished relationship with Madhu

Now Madhu will need to deal with broken, distasteful RK (and not her charming RK of before).

And we will get to know if Madhu will ever be able to like this Rishabh Kundra (unmasked RK).

Its like Court giving you 6 months in Mutual Consent Divorce, to find out if two can get along with each other. 😆

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ennishet

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: vd-rocks
nice! loved the episode...yesterday itself i was expecting to c 'the hug' in today's episode...just the way i had thot! reminds me of that day's hug wen madhu was upset with RK about mallik-padmini wedding! just wanted n it happened...RK is reaching the point of breakdown soon...n even sooner if madhu stays with him...

I expected the hug today when RK was in his usual style ranting about his and Madhu's relationship. That was explosive and knew here comes a forcible hug. Did you check Madhu's expression then? Was it discomfort or something worse?

Bhai will never give up his bhashans on 'keeping your wife happy and living a happily married life'. I wish he had used his gyaan for his happiness.

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pnars

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Posted: 12 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
P,

Loved your review. Very matured. I love these kind of reviews. Adds fuel to my imagination 😃

Isn't it quite dangerous to show the other person how your mind works ?
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Twisted working
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Well I must say, I am liking the craziness 😆

Shri,

Ahaan! Redemption from you after yesterday's takkar is sweet 😉 Glad my review fed your vivid imagination...

But seriously, I felt today's epi was more well-knit than yesterday's. The way he talked about his madness for her "...I felt like killing you, and then myself..." - chilling. Such an all-pervasive love! It can turn controlling, claustrophobic, unhealthy if Madhu does not rein him in.

She is the stronger person in this phase of the relationship, imho. He has handed her his view of the relationship, now she can do with it what she will. Will be very interesting to watch - and I hope, with the evolution of their relationship, we see growth in her character as well. I, for sure, would like to see a Madhu who thinks things through before barging into people's lives and making friendships with gangsters.

But where's the spice or story in that, right?

I love the craziness too!👍🏼

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thetelleroftale

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

My episode review-
Studio scene-
I found the whole charade very entertaining! The 'Build up, build up, build up' thing was amusing (given it's exactly what is happening on the show) and I couldn't help thinking, how did RK know the tune of 'Hume hai/the deewane'?!?
Did anyone else get the feeling that Bittuji was totally into the story, his expression at RK's 'dishkiyao' was 😆
I'm glad RK finally dismissed him though.
And sweet Madhu, was the devil sitting on her shoulder when she said 'Mujhe nahi pata'?
She didn't answer like the last time and she didn't even point out that she has already answered the question before, repeatedly. Something in the lines of 'How many times do you want me to say it?' would have been more appropriate than 'I don't know'.
Are we to assume that she is (once again) disgusted by the lengths he is going to or that there is a part of her that wants to see him suffer the anguish of her feigned indecision?
I'm so glad he said, 'Kya hota agar aaj voh goli chal jaathi toh' because she looked frightened for the first time. Once again, RK became our voice is airing the security issue and removing Madhu's blinders that prevent her from seeing Sultan for who he is, a gangster. (I'm sure this is going to go unnoticed in the larger scheme of things again but I'm still glad RK said it)
Her disgust when he said 'Hisab barabar' mirrored my own. It reminded me of my metaphor of imaginary scales that RK meant to balance with his revenge plan.
The rest of his lines were as much of a love confession as RK can manage at this point. He didn't say the all important three words but everything he said sounded synonymous to it, for me.
And I think this has finally made Madhu realize that even if they get back together, this is the real RK and even love struck, this is who he really is. (as opposed to his 'best pati' performance)
I'm reminded of Radhaji's words here, that there is no right or wrong decision for Madhu now and I certainly won't be judging her, no matter what she chooses to do. (Strictly with respect to her relationship with RK; for all other things I'll remain as judgmental as ever!)

Scene two-
The interview was nothing to comment on but I thought he sounded genuinely disappointed in her when she vanished.
And, of all the opportunities to run away, Madhu finally chose this one. I hope it's because of the impact the previous scene had on her.

Madhu-Trishna scene-
What's with women in soaps who ask questions and answer it themselves?
Trishna's questions were so many and so wordy, all Madhu managed to say was that she was forced into going home with RK.
Trishna jumped to conclusions faster than RK even, that Madhu had forgiven RK, blah blah.
I really hope that Madhu's lethargy with words was due to the speed of her thoughts and that she has come up with some strategy to deal with her current situation.

RK in the chawl-
Padmini's reaction was a little hard to decipher. She didn't look concerned about Madhu's whereabouts, the fact that Madhu lied to her about being with RK or even outraged by RK's insinuation that she is with Sultan.
Instead, I saw a momentary gleam of triumph. Did anyone else feel so?
(Perhaps she thought her curse has taken effect and RK is losing his mind with jealousy?)

Precap- I won't say anything except that I flinched on hearing Sultan's 'If Madhu had been my wife...' line and yet acknowledge both the bitter truth in them as well as the need for RK to hear them.
(By bitter truth I don't mean Sultan's assertion that he would have done a better job as Madhu's husband but generally that any man whose wife chooses to leave his side must have found (/been given) a good enough reason to do so)

P.S. Thanks for the suggestion 0-SD-0. You can refer to me as TT, I think it has a nice ring to it! 😃

P.P.S- I know it doesn't have anything to do with today's episode but I couldn't resist adding this one thing- Of all the exciting ways to kill off a gangster's wife, they chose for her to have a car accident because she wasn't wearing a seat belt?!?

Edited by thetelleroftale - 12 years ago

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war_is_peace

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Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: ennishet

I expected the hug today when RK was in his usual style ranting about his and Madhu's relationship. That was explosive and knew here comes a forcible hug. Did you check Madhu's expression then? Was it discomfort or something worse?

Bhai will never give up his bhashans on 'keeping your wife happy and living a happily married life'. I wish he had used his gyaan for his happiness.

i meant same as u...since yest i was predicting a hug for today's episode...sry my bad..didn't write clearly...

the expressions given by madhu were mixed...not really discomfort...n rk's were like this freaked out kid...

Edited by vd-rocks - 12 years ago