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Posted: 12 years ago
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TM,

Excellent post. The first time around when RK married Madhu and brought her to RK mansion no one complained too much as everyone thought RK had a past and he wold change with madhu's love as cliched as the story line was.

BUT since the cv's are hellbent on glorifying psycho RK's antics saying he's layered character which no one would understand, the Right Kameena,he would never change,his redemption is different and what not why don't they write showing Madhu to be a strong girl who rejects RK and moves on instead of showing her a weakling who melts at a man's touch.. Now that would be really path breaking on TV. But of course what about the endless eye locks and the so called sizzling chemistry?

Half of this forum are women and I'm appalled to see/read posts that are celebrating that Madhu is finally going back to her abuser.

Immature much?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

This is a fantastic post.


That's the thing, people think because its fiction ie the online fans, its ok to see the guy constantly humiliating the woman and using her as his punching bag. But what they fail to realise is illiterate people who watch this show takes this kind of message on board which is why scenes such as the court scene where MB spoke about women's rights are used in these so called fictional show. But alas according to some 13 year olds and of course not to forgot those in their thirties in this forum find it hot and whoever utter a word against the hero ~(in my book villain) is bashed or even better the fanatics start wishing for your death and claim to be saints the next day!! Just like the character of RK has been turn into a joker, so has the antics of his fanatics, who believe like them RK should be worshiped! It doesn't matter that he is yet to understand the consequences of his action. Just because his daddy committed suicide, the guy believes he has a licence to go around ruining other people's zindagi! He is an embarrassment to those who have suffered even worse childhood.

I find MB melting to his touch disgusting! Despite being her fan! I cannot digest her constant allowance of being humiliated. The rate of women who go back to their abusive partners and end up in morgues is shocking. BUT THEY SAY THEY LOVED THEM (always makes me wanna puke )And of course RK is yet to hit her (though he did come close to it when he readily wanted to smash a bottle on her head), the word abused is not restrained just to physicality, it includes emotional abuse, and quite frankly that is exactly what MB has been enduring. Humiliation over humiliation and not just on herself, but the guy even ensured he expanded his revenge mantra to her family, resulting in her foster dad nearly dying. But even then she forgave him dil se, aur what did he do? BACKSTABBED HER! And now to even expect her to go back to him should be like ERRMM NAH!!!.. Especially when according to RK, he is the one who has been hurt oups betrayed! Now using the girl to ensure his bruised ego is kept intact!

I am yet to understand whats so hot in a guy who humiliates a woman, but am sure the day I wear those specs I shall know.If rumours about cutting his wrist is true! Then if a character like MB cant tell him to screw himself and cut whatever or wherever he wants then that's disappointing. She sure as hell aint Ballu's daughter😆 If cvs want Rishbala as one they better start showing the guy repenting his deeds and giving the girl space to mkae up her own mind! Warna they can start waving tata-bye-bye to this show, as repetitive RK wont be carrying this show to the 1000 mark they want to go too.


But seriously, amazing post! Disgusting social message being sent by CVs! I hope the ratings are even lower.

Don't care who got offended!😃


Such a BANG ON post!!! Hope people realize it. I too could never understand Madhu reacting to RK's touches. Doesn't he put her off? To forgive is one thing and to lose self-respect is another! Hope CVs realize this soon and show Madhu protesting whenever RK 'touches' her. At least stop showing her bodily reactions or make Madhu show some repulsive reaction to put RK in his place. It is high time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Siri22

TM,


Excellent post. The first time around when RK married Madhu and brought her to RK mansion no one complained too much as everyone thought RK had a past and he wold change with madhu's love as cliched as the story line was.

BUT since the cv's are hellbent on glorifying psycho RK's antics saying he's layered character which no one would understand, the Right Kameena,he would never change,his redemption is different and what not why don't they write showing Madhu to be a strong girl who rejects RK and moves on instead of showing her a weakling who melts at a man's touch.. Now that would be really path breaking on TV. But of course what about the endless eye locks and the so called sizzling chemistry?

Half of this forum are women and I'm appalled to see/read posts that are celebrating that Madhu is finally going back to her abuser.

Immature much?


@Bold: They sure are!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@mozart66 - I for one would really like for Madhu to give the psycho another slap if he dared touch her instead of melting in his arms. How could she even let him near is beyond my understanding.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ TM nice post. I agree on most of your points. And you are right if we truly look around we will find many RK s around us. In fact I can honestly say that I know a couple myself. But speaking as a viewer its precisely because its fiction and fantasy why most of us love it. I love RK as a character but in real life would I want a man like that -NO is the answer. In real life I think most of us have enough common sense to realise that a bad seed remains a bad seed- they never change. But the desire to see such a man being converted to goodness, and reforming himself is something that most of us would love to see. And we are well aware that it will happen only in fiction. As human beings we see so much of unhappiness and misery around us, for some in their marriages or relationships that we would like to see something good happening even after strife - as in a show.
I am not sure if I am making my POV clear, but this is why I atleast watch this. I would have had no objection if the CV s had brought in a businessman or a dr and so on as a parallel lead for madhu. But a gangster is somehow not the right right choice. If we really want to see s a fiction show , we just want reality and give the right message wouldn t we want madhu to find a good guy. The question is raised that if Dawood ( cant remember other names😕) or some other mafia guy came upto us and treated us like queens would we go happily with them just because they are nice😲. I guess when it is a fiction show , its just something meant for temporary enjoyment. And somehow as human beings we would all like to believe that people can change for the better 😊
The argument is endless and I dont mean to offend anyone. Liked your post and thought I would pen down my thoughts too 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oh_No_Soaps



Im afraid I disagree with you. This is EXACTLY what is dangerous and should not be done. I think most of the young naive girls who are rooting for the RK/Madhu jodi or think that awww...RK is so sexy so hot, ohhh how much he loves Madhu just look at the way he looks at her, look how possesive he is etc etc, all ALL agree that he has treated her badly.

The SCARY thing I find is that you all think that after a"redemption track" where he says sorry and feels remorse, and suffers a bit, its all ok for the CVs to write off Madhu and RK as ending happily. THAT IS WRONG. THAT IS THE WRONG MESSAGE and grooming girls for emotional abuse and control. Men (and some women) who show even 50% of the characteristics shown by RK SHOW NO REDEMPTION. IF THEY DO its an ACT. THEY NEVER NEVER CHANGE!

I want CVs not to show that LIE. The lie that they change because it influences young and impressionable people.




Personally, I don't think of a redemption track as just one scene or two where he says sorry to Madhu and they live happily ever after. Heck no. I want RK to feel the same pain he inflicted on Madhu. I want him to grovel in her feet. And as rude as this sounds, I want him to suffer terribly before he can get back with her.

And I have to disagree on the no remorse part. I think RK can possibly change. I think his relationship with his mother is proof of that. He changed from being a disrespectful twat to a somewhat respectable twat. His entire character is based off his asshole traits. Of course he isn't going to become the stereotypical "perfect husband." The entire show is based off a "dark love story." Those are rarely ever healthy. Like the show's title says, he's obsessed with her. And likewise, she can't help but be enticed by him. But at the end of the day, it's fiction. It'll all be over within a few years.

And regarding the whole social message aspect. I definitely do agree with you in the fact that these soaps do lie to the general media. But at the same time, soaps aren't real. Look at all of Ekta Kapoor's drama's, those things are just beyond ridiculous. Who is their right mind would believe that crap? And I do understand the point you make with these shows making an impact to impressionable people, but even if you take Madhubala out of the equation, there's other shows that promote the same messages. To take an example, Iss Pyar Ko Kya Naam Do. That show was unbelievable huge and its fan following was amazing. But the main lead, Arnav, constantly manhandled the other lead Khushi. He'd always blow up at her for trivial things and she put up with his shit. In the end, they remained happily married to each other. The show and its fan glorified Arnav's character to the skies, despite his faults. It doesn't matter if the CV's tell the truth of such relationships or not, there's always going to be other shows out there that promote similar or worse messages.

Regarding Madhubala, honestly speaking, I won't mind if the CV's decide to end this in a "tragic" way with Madhu and RK not reuniting. It would be refreshing to see and the storm that would erupt in the forum would be amazing lol.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I will sound like a complete hypocrite when I say this but in my defence all I can say is I am mighty confused about RK.
One thing I guaranteed dislike is Madhu giving into RK's touch every time.
The catching hand - pulling back game they play every time is annoying.
For heavens sake Madhu can raise her voice enough to ask him to let go ( even then I doubt he would)
For long I have wanted Madhu to have a track free of any men.
Why be RK's or Sultan's?
Can't she lead a life of her own?
The woman is young and still has a lot of life to face.
RK's redemption I wish to see for I am a staunch believer of second chances and forgiving ( when God can forgive our sins on daily basis, why can't we humans forgive)
Madhu has choice to forgive RK in future if she wishes to , that will help her in moving forward truly.
On whether she should trust RK and go back to him , personally put in her place I wouldn't.
RK has protected her, saved her life etc.
But he did also play big time with her emotions.
And yes , his past maybe a reason for his actions.
But that's no justification for hurting others now.
Madhu should go a different way in my opinion.
Lead a life free of any man for a while.
As for being influenced.
I think partly you maybe right but it also depend on the viewers dear.
Reel and real are never exactly same.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oh_No_Soaps



...asli mei koi ladka aisa kare kisi k saath...

LOTS of ladkas/men are like this! In the serial its just shown in a more grander and exaggerated scale, that is all.

Consider the characteristics shown by RK:
The lying
The controlling
The manipulating
Lack of conscious
Lack of moral or ethics
Lack of empathy or feelings for others
Domineering
Intelligent
Egotistical
Funny
Has one or more Bittuji (I mean a sidekick/chamcha) who is good at heart but completely dominated.
Charming
No respect for girls
Hypocrite
Thinking they are better than everyone else
Looking down on others
No good relationship with anyone and its always the other persons fault. They wronged him inc family.
They have some "sad" story from past or difficult thing they have gone through
No respect for rules
Thinking of themselves as great and grand
No respect or regard for social norms
Do what I want when I want coz thats teh way I am and ...its not my fault...mai aisa hi hunn


Think carefully and you will know of at LEAST 1-2 boys/men who show a lot of these characteristics or have heard about them from family or friends!! We ALL know someone, its just that we don't add it all up! Coz they are funny and good company when they are good company. Add sexy and/or attractive to it and what happens??



PERFECT answer!!! Truly wish peope introspect about it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome post.
About RK I begin to uderstand his character now and that is what U just described. He doesn't seem to be a man that could be changed. I have lost all hope for him.
Now what is confusing is Madhu's reaction. Wouldn't a girl feel disgusted to be touched by a man who has done that to her. Her reaction to his touch is confusing. And to show she is forgetting everything he did for a physical touch is I don't really know what to say except disgusting. Sadly this is the only word that comes to me.😭😭😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: FeistySoul

I will sound like a complete hypocrite when I say this but in my defence all I can say is I am mighty confused about RK.
One thing I guaranteed dislike is Madhu giving into RK's touch every time.
The catching hand - pulling back game they play every time is annoying.
For heavens sake Madhu can raise her voice enough to ask him to let go ( even then I doubt he would)
For long I have wanted Madhu to have a track free of any men.
Why be RK's or Sultan's?
Can't she lead a life of her own?
The woman is young and still has a lot of life to face.
RK's redemption I wish to see for I am a staunch believer of second chances and forgiving ( when God can forgive our sins on daily basis, why can't we humans forgive)
Madhu has choice to forgive RK in future if she wishes to , that will help her in moving forward truly.
On whether she should trust RK and go back to him , personally put in her place I wouldn't.
RK has protected her, saved her life etc.
But he did also play big time with her emotions.
And yes , his past maybe a reason for his actions.
But that's no justification for hurting others now.
Madhu should go a different way in my opinion.
Lead a life free of any man for a while.
As for being influenced.
I think partly you maybe right but it also depend on the viewers dear.
Reel and real are never exactly same.


@Bold: She has already forgien him else she wouldn't have fallen in love with him after what he did to her foster father and the way he was in the initial stages. Because she has forgiven him (but unfortunately not forgotten him, quite naturally because of various reasons and not just love) she has started moving on in her life. So why can't RK let her be? There is just no sane logic.

As for your last line, it is true that Real and Reel are never exactly the same, reel often exaggerated. But in a story telling unless you exaggerate, you can not put across your point. To explain this - just imagine our grandmothers used to tell us the stories when we were children. Grandmothers often used to exaggerate a devil or a 'rakshas' to underline the fact how BAD they are and how we need to stay away from them. Serial too is story telling but while doing that with the powerful medium as TV we can show the reality too to some extent to get your point across.

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