Episode 238 Discussion: 5th April 2013

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zoya_naziya

@zoya_naziya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Tell me about it.

Seriously...the CVs and RS should think twice before making the character utter words like that. CVs ho gaye Paagal. Ek Dum Behaya aur kuch bhi character se bulwa dete hain. Kuch to aankh, kaan aur naak ki sharam rakhe ? !! Audience kitna bardaasht karegi nautanki ke naam pe. Theekh hai...I would have enjoyed the shootout just for the kicks of it...but Lectures at the Propriety of it near residential area. Even Police are not spared in these kind of Ops.

Protecting Aryan = 👍🏼
Giving Shelter to Sultan for few days until he heals = Tolerably and understandingly acceptable.
Justifying Supporting actions after shootout on the grounds that "I am not a beast" = Plain unacceptable. What do CVs mean? We all PUBLIC are animals? That we don't have sense. That we should also become Paagal ?!!!

Not quoting the entire thing, but I guess it was just a desperate attempt by RS to answer/shout back at the viewers who have been bombarding his FB inbox with messages.. They had to salvage their female lead when they are making her deliberately do the bewakoofi/pagalpanti to take the story forward...So they are just trying to shut the viewers mouth... It is upto us to either turn a deaf-ear and let be that they tried to convince some or be a part of the 'I got convinced side' like the chawl-waasis

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amrithas

@amrithas

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

I am sorry to say an excellent actor like SV is also made to look foolish in this beyond comical gangwar! The way Sultan was walking about with color in his eyes, was plain hilarious and the icing on the cake, was Madhu Mata's rescue act with the shivering gun and Bhujang scurrying off! I liked the scene and Madhu's body language, once Sultan realizes who is he talking to about shooting Bhujang! His realization and her expressions were well done!

Madhu's baashan to outraged Chawlvaasis, was in fact CVs way of telling us off! I was sold by her speech from her POV, but the only and that is a big loophole is that Paddo was a helpless and harmless woman with two daughters to protect, whereas Sultan is a deadly gangster! So it just can't be so easily overlooked, even if its for Aryan! I liked Madhu's proclamation that she will never change and will always use her heart, even if its stupidity! At least she cleared her stand, so no more cribbing about Madhu! If and if only Sultan wasn't a gangster, this whole scene would be more plausible! Paddo's undying support of everything Madhu does is off, whatever said and done her good intentions are misplaced in defending Sultan! I liked the pointer, about a child learning things even while in the mother's womb, helps to explain off Madhu's nonchalance to violence too! She saw quite a lot of it, while in the womb!

RK is unable to drink and hopping mad with rage, jealousy and frustration as expected! The very fact that he's not heartbroken or shattered, goes to show that deep within he still trusts Madhu, which is confirmed from his expression, when Rji mentions that Paddo knows everything and still trusts her completely! I think it was Rji's subtle way of hinting, RK should also do the same! Just when mother and son were able to set some past things right, Bji comes running in with news of Shootout at chawl! The good news is, that effectively sets RK back on track and running after Madhu once again! If not for that news, he would take longer for chasing after her!

Precap: Once again RK catches up with a once more mad at him Madhu! That damn blue pardha, flying in the air just reminds me of their first kiss during love confession and distracted me from the problem at hand!

Edited by amrithas - 12 years ago

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Angeena

@Angeena

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

So many posts saying that RK was acting as he was before .. So I'll just say this.

Look at his expressions when Radhaji is talking. He is all ears and eyes his expression is open. He is focusing completely on her. He was "listening". Not just hearing but "LISTENING". He was paying attention to her and trying to understand her & her viewpoint. This is something which he did not do before. Also, notice how hesitant he was when taking that glass of alcohol. He was tempted, and he almost gave into his desire to drink it and just forget everything again. But he didn't do that. He resisted it.

That's why I believe that he has changed. This scene was different from all other such which came before..

Edited by Angeena - 12 years ago

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya
Wasn't using the word 'Dhoka" a bit too much by the chawl people?

The chawl-waasis should have used "bewakoofi/pagalpanti" or something along the lines of jeopardizing our lives and then made Madhu answer them.. But no, they put everything just like that in Madhu's sermon to answer all the viewers... I feel the writing could have been better there... Just my opinion...

Agree. I just posted on the same. The CVs and Dialogue-writer...they need to pay attention to all aspects of drama and not just scenes related to Rishbala. I am sure there are lot of viewers who like action drama. And even action drama sells when you have right kind of dialogues and right emotions. Especially in action dramas, killing/fighting is supported if the cause is justified. The justification should have been built up if the CVs have been planning since November to introduce Sultan as Gangster into the story. Why hotch-potch writing and nincompoop action sequences. Why struggle so much. They can go to youtube and look for lot of videos and get an idea, how it looks and accordingly create drama.

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pnars

@pnars

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Episode 238 : " Logic takes a day off & The Madhu Manifesto"

Questions -

1) What about the dead bodies?

2) Did no one call the police?

3) Who disposed of the gun in the gulal tub?

4) Really, what about those dead bodies?

Random musings -

1) Madhu established her Manifesto today - yes, she really is like this. No, she'll never change. She'll slap, bicker, slap court cases, perform forest rescues, plot with old ladies, and what not in the cause of rescuing helpless little boys (Muku/Rishu/Aryu) but no, the one boundary is she won't kill. We get it, gal! We'll not question your actions or motives again.

2) Padmini applauded her daughter and elaborated that some of the crazy genes come from her too, it's not all Balraj. And she gave her blessings for Aryabala, i.e., possible Sulbala!

3) RK pleej come take her away from the bad guy. You'll be doing her, her mummy and the chawlwaasis a big favour!

Shot in the dark predictions -

1) RK will tell Madhu to get back into the mansion or else - chalees lakh, vagera vagera.

2) Madhu will say fine, but I bring Aryan and Kaka with me. Temporary arrangement till Sultan kills all his rivals and cleans up Mumbai for his monopoly. Figures MadMansion is the safest place for Aryu right now.

3) RK brings biwi and her baggage home.

4) Deepali gets stomach ache laughing at the new menagerie at home.

But this question will keep me awake tonight -

What about those dead bodies??

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ennishet

@ennishet

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Sultan: I knew you weren't good company for Madhu ... till now I was worried from the safety point of view. Now I'm worried about morality too. Are you trying to inculcate Madhu into the art of becoming a gangster so that she can join you and Aryan? On a serious note, Sultan shouted at Madhu for not shooting ... then saw her trembling hands and gun, and came to his senses.

Madhu: Is there any difference between helping a pregnant woman and her 7-year-old child and helping a law-breaking gangster? I try and try to understand your attachment with Aryan, but you need to understand that Aryan isn't alone in the world. That was a nice speech and a slap to all of us here for pointing fingers on you for helping Sultan. BUT there is a big difference between what Malik did for you and your mom and what you're trying to do for Aryan and Sultan. Aryan has an attachment, Sultan. Never forget that. You're not wrong in trying to help Aryan but you can't escape the risk of Sultan and Bajrang, now that the latter has seen your participation at the chawl. He's sure to use you as a bait to lure Sultan.

RK: What happens to you and your trust for your Biwi? You can always read a face and eyes, for eyes never lie. Didn't you see something for you in Madhu's eyes when you were putting color on her? Did you see her tears? Then, why the doubts? If you still have doubts, it is best to talk with the opposite person and clear it up. You've a brilliant and sharp mind, why not use it for once instead of hitting the bottle?

Bittuji: Will you never improve your timing? You always barge in at the worst moment. Hope news about the 'shootout' brings RK to his senses.

The Precap: Are they back to fighting? Need to watch it tomorrow.

Edited by ennishet - 12 years ago

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amrithas

@amrithas

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

RK: <Whining> She did not include me in the play. She went and colored that Sultan who didn't even want to play in the first place. She was being mean to me when I was being so nice to her. It was so unfair. You should have seen it. Her mother did not even scold her and all. Nobody ever says anything bad about her. You are always seeing faults only in ME. <scowls and sulks>

And that folks was the end to the memorable holi played at the chawl by our very own RK, Madhu and Sultan.

@MM that was an excellent summary of the childish roleplay that took place today!

RK's whining was of course the best part of it! He really is still a child underneath all that false bravado!

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Shridevi Gaddam

@0-SD-0

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya
Not quoting the entire thing, but I guess it was just a desperate attempt by RS to answer/shout back at the viewers who have been bombarding his FB inbox with messages.. They had to salvage their female lead when they are making her deliberately do the bewakoofi/pagalpanti to take the story forward...So they are just trying to shut the viewers mouth... It is upto us to either turn a deaf-ear and let be that they tried to convince some or be a part of the 'I got convinced side' like the chawl-waasis

Thanks Zoya.

Like I care !!! I was not the one flooding him messages.

I need light hearted something. Tell me what did your aunt and mom think. Later I will check what Preet's parents and sibs said. Then I will get a balanced view. 😆

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amrithas

@amrithas

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Posted: 12 years ago

#19

@pnars, didn't u get it till now? The dead bodies were thrown outside the compound gates of the chawl, which does not come under the jurisdiction of MB land! Now we can all forget about, something that's thrown out of MB land, and worry about the walking talking zombies within MBland!They have included Bhujang and Sultan for us to be occupied with, to fill in the empty space of Malik and Roma who have fled MBland with their senses intact!