Episode 220 Discussion: 15th March 2013 - Page 4

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anastasia21


Radha slaps RK and says some things that for the longest of time, I have wanted her to realize, not necessarily voice it. A mother loves her kid beyond all means and reasons but there's thin line across which love becomes blind. She didn't nurture his cruel side, but she didn't stop it from spreading like a weed either. She simply conditioned herself to live with them in the hope of reconciling with his son one day. The other day, we're talking about tough parenting in this EDT. If pure love and patronage were what Rishabh needed in his young age, then tough love was what was necessary for him when he became what he became. Instead he just slipped out of his mother's hand right in front of her eyes. And she is to blame to some or more extent.


you're right Aritri...👏 will she stop mouthing that Mohan Kundra dialogue? bec. if ONLY the genes of the parents are responsible to shape up a person's personality then a terrorist's son will always be a terrorist ..Sultan's son Aryan should be like Sultan then? he can't be a good man...it's the upbringing which matters and Radha, couldn't give him a normal childhood 😊 what exactly shaped up his personality? toh she was abs right in blaming herself for not slapping him that day when he insulted her for the first time bec. of which he never respected women...n i completely agree with tough love was also necessary for him...

@bold, Word it 👏

not a word from his mother OR her slap cud move him 😆 naaa i hope it did and he stops her in time 😭 but for that he will have to say sorry ! gosh ! he can never say sorry 😭😭
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
I am really disappointed in Padhaji today. I really loved the slap, well deserved RK. But why is Padhaji so dumb?Is it so hard for her to understand that RK is like this because of her constant ignorance towards him? Even now she is leaving him? Can't she for once instead of crying like a helpless woman or taunting like others, go to her son and TALK to him? Has she ever cared to make an effort? Even their reconcillation was initiated by RK. The more she ignores him, darker and wilder he'll become.
Edited by CHAKKU_DAAYAN - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
For the first time in a long time, I actually felt sorry for RK today. Indeed, VD and DD's acting, along with the actress playing Radha almost bought tears to my eyes.
The whole 10 minute monologue for me was all about RK gauging Madhu's reactions. He knows she is not a good actress and wanted to see how she would react to his words, especially the taunts about the new person in her life. And lets be honest, in his mind, what else would she be at his house for? In a way its sad that the RK was old has been reduced to breaking things in order to retain Madhu's attention. But at the same time, it makes sense too- in his mind Madhu does not rise to his taunts about their past anymore (what 2 weeks after the revenge drama in MBverse? Fast recovery time, especially in RK's eyes), so he has to become physical in order for her to react. So the taunts about the phone. Like Shri said, I loved how he went back to the old definitions of their fights- it is between him and her. A welcome respite from when he included the rest of the world, including Dipali, to make her suffer. And the funny thing is? I got the sense that he welcomed that- that the fight was about the two of them. RK has moved on in a sense. Its no longer about humiliating Madhubala. Its about getting her back into his orbit, getting her to focus on him again. And to do that, he's blocking the rest of the world, like he did before.
The she talked about the detectives, then she talked about how there is nothing between them except poison. And RK lashed out. In his mind, how could Madhu say there was nothing between them, when not ever 3 weeks (?) ago, she was ready to leave her entire world behind for him? Can you imagine, for someone like RK, who already had abandonment issues, what that statement would have felt like? Before, he had seen her with a man. But now, he had seen Madhu laugh and smile again- something he was had said with confidence would never happen, because, he, RK, had shattered her. So of course, he lashed out. And he aimed at the one thing Madhu thought she had left- her self-respect. It's a big flashy neon sign, and RK will always go for that area because it is one that Madhu always reacts to.
But Radha was there today. And she told a few home truths. VD's expressions were amazing in this scene-pain, but hiding it. And you could tell Madhu hurt for him. But Madhu is like RK- we can talk about how she poked the wound-of course she did? Why wouldn't she? RK played with her life and broke her, and she has not put herself back together. And whoever she will be afterwards, she will never be the Madhu of before. Its only natural that she wanted to cause him pain. I don't think she really meant a single word. She might feel disgusted with herself, but for being fooled by RK, not for loving him. If she had hated herself for loving him, then she would stop herself from putting RK before her families safety, which she has done by lying to them about her encounter with Sultan and why she did not go to the police.
I do wish though, that the CV's would move on and start the realization track- even the bare inklings of RK realizing that Madhu means something to him. Forget the emotional drain of watching a couple you have invested in for more than 5 months go down the drain, forget the fear that gangsters are taking over the show, watching RK keep hitting the bottle gets tedious very very quickly.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: _charu_

Shri, I had a question in mind..Is RK really jealous ? is it love or his ego who cannot accept that therez another man in Madhu's life? bec. in his dreams, he tried to tell us that he cannot lose Madhu to anyone else as she's his biwi...but what Puja said confused me n I felt she's right..he has a problem accepting that she has moved on while he's burning in hell ! and like u said, her resilience is not allowing him to revel in happiness of completion of revenge...i want to ask Bittuji's question here..what is there b/w the 2 of them and why wud they want to get back to each other now? bec. with passing time, their relationship is hitting a new low..and when Madhu said that she's disgusted that she ever fell in love with him, wherez the hope that she can love him again😭 until n unless he changes completely...turns into another Mukund 🤣

sorry for the long rant


RK could not share his mother. And now he cannot lose Madhu. I don't see CONVINCED jealousy though the makers of the drama call it jealousy track. I see only an RK who is possessive about Madhu. When did he ever let her alone in previous 6 months for us to see his possessiveness like this. If you see Madhu and Radhaji are explaining the same...what haque, which rights of possession he is talking about and he shows his sorry face, though he cannot agree to it. He is like that only- control freak. The curiosity kills him because he has to know Madhu and her needs, just like RK kept his mother close and knew her needs. He takes care of them, making it difficult for them to leave him and he keeps sucking their love and hurts them...I am so liking for the slaps he is getting post revenge drama...one from Madhu for trying to show his concern and he had to let her go even as it hurt him and now Radhaji's slap ...long due slap to Rishu the kid for his over possessiveness. Great...I told you.. he needed lessons from Mommy. So I think it will be good for him with the lessons he learnt today.

As for the Love story...they are pure opposites. So consciously they repel each other and unconsciously they attract each other. RK is attracted to Madhu and Madhu is affected by his attraction. Period. This is the unrealized reality for them. Consciously they always act their mosquito and roach repellent drama, but always playing the game. The world shall soon tell them to keep themselves out of their drama.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35
it was a good episode I had written to Raghuvir Shekawat about the discrepancies with what RK had told Radhaji earlier that he could never do anything that would offend his father. Once he said that I thought the revenge track was over since no one would say something involving there dead parent and lie about it. But than he did the whole unwedding drama and I wrote to Raghuvir ji about my confusion. Would Mohan Kundra approve of this? Doesnt RK know that? I think in today's episode they tried to show that he got so involved in his passion for revenge, love jealously that he sometimes forgets who he is and what he wants to become. This is no justification but I thank the cvs for providing a explanation.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
I've not read any other reviews, wanted to give my "untainted" opinion 😊

It was a fantastic episode, a power-packed one. Radha vocalized the feelings of frustration, anger and despair we are all feeling at RK's stupid, stupid downward spiral. RK effectively showed Deepali her place and told her she was irrelevant in his scheme of things. Madhu struck RK at his heart. Bittuji was the neutral bystander whose heart was weeping at the carnage he witnessed.

It was bloodletting of the best kind. Where do we go from here? Truth be told, I don't really care - I got my entertainment for tonight!

Other trivial observations -

1. RK and Madhu matched again (I wondered why their costumes were out of sync yesterday).

2. Why were the three idiots watching the entire proceedings?

3. Radhaji was a tad overwrought towards the end, but overall it was a bravura performance.

Now, I'm off to read what you all think. The thread is rocking tonite, I'm sure!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Don't know why u guys r feeling so bad for RK in my opinion he deserve all this hatread he need to realise what he is saying he can't always hurt person with his shameless words whatever might be the reason he don't have any right to decide abt Madhu's character there is always limit of everything. I purely loath his statement to come think of it he and his ego will never satisfied and it will burn with loneliness till eternity because he had habit of throwing out most precious persons from his life who truely cares for him this is called self destruction. Iam not seeing any self realisation or reedemption here

shri iam disagree abt Madhu need to realise abt her public image means its not going to be breaking news on front page (which happen last time ) that she was away from her family for two nights people who need answers they got it and for rest of the people i will say go to hell because anyway people don't look at divorced girls with sane mind, she needs to lead her life with dignity which she is doing. And what public image we r talking abt her so called affair, marriage and unwed everything was tamasha what more damage can happen now.

P. S. Sorry if i offended anyone here but somehow i relate to Madhu more.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Another superb episode from drama perspective ...however I for one was left confused trying to understand what was going on...
Madhu marches into RK mansion and Dips taunts her but RK interferes. RK goes on and on about how Madhu is here for a new phone since she can't wait to talk to her new beloved. Madhu is silent...she later drags in 3 stooges that were hired to spy on RK. Radha gives RK a dressing down and slaps him for stooping so low and decides to go back to Delhi. She tells RK that RK could not be Mohan Kundra's son as he is inhumane. Rk is hurt but he is even more hurt when Madhu tells him that she loathes herself for ever loving him. Rk tries to drown back in alcohol but is unable to...
Precap- Sultan smashes RK'S car's windshield and RK hands over the message to Madhu.
So what has me so confused- I am trying to understand why everyone was pointing fingers ar RK and how did he stoop low? In fact for the first time I felt RK was right on every count and Madhu was wrong today.
RK finds out that Madhu is missing ...she returns late at night in an unknown car with an unknown person. She then vanishes again the next day and RK sees the couple in questionable pose..Sultan's hand around Madhu's waist. He investigates and finds that she was out at night again and had lied to her mother and sister. He confronts hers but she does not give him a straight answer. He senses something is wrong but can't put a finger on it. He knows Madhu is impulsive and foolishly naive at times. Partly his jealousy, partly his love and partly his possesiveness, partly his concern prompts him to investigate this matter further and he has Madhu followed. Where exactly did he go wrong?
Next day Madhu talks on phone despite the fact that she should not have been on phone when the shoot was going on ...RK throws a tantrum and breaks her phone.. He feels rightly that Madhu is unrepentant about causing so much loss with her foolish antics. How exactly is he wrong?
RK is sarcastic and his words are ruthless and cruel but was he truly wrong? Madhu did spend two nights out ...enough for a lot of people to point fingers at her and RK (I assume they are not legally divorced but estranged). She seems to have no comprehension of what she is doing...RK is supposed to give her "Samman" but she herself is dragging her dignity through mud because of her lies and actions. Rk was also right from his perspective when he said that if there was something between them, she would hesitate in spending her nights out . Was he trying to gauge her?
So far RK and Madhu have kept thier disagreement and fights between them - He only dragged Paddy in Sultan issue when he felt helpless and frustated with Madhu's pigheadedness. Today Madhu broke the rule when she dragged Radha into the picture.
From where I stand while everything Radha said was correct and justified but it was an over-reaction given the circumstances. However I feel for her since she is frustated with her obstinate son and today her anger and frustation runneth over. Why did she have to ask forgiveness from Madhu? How exactly is RK inhumane in today's context? Yes...madhu did save RK's life but RK returned the favor in full in Ballu incident...why does everyone seem to forget that? Why did RK not ask Radha to question Madhu and see if anything he said was untrue about her spending nights outside and lying to everyone? What gave Madhu right to act superior and righteous when she was in wrong? Did I feel wrong when it seemed that Madhu was initially saddened but then gloated at RK's plight?
Today I felt an odd sense of disgust for Madhu ...something I have always felt for RK. I have always felt that RK should face the consequences of his actions and learn to value Madhu. Strangely today I felt the same for Madhu...I wanted RK to walk away from her and leave her with her own stupidity so that she can suffer the consequences of getting entangled with a gangster and understand what RK was trying to tell her in his own crude way.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
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Very well said. RK was right in trying to point out what people must be thinking about Madhu and this was what Padmini tried to convey to her too.

I think it's because RK was the one to bring it to light everyone is bent on ignoring it. Madhu isn't taking Padmini seriously because RK brought it to her notice .. And had Radhaji been there then and she had seen and heard what Padmini had said and done she would have agreed with her..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Agree with what you've said - superb analysis!

If you look at it logically, RK is in the right. And he's only voicing what people in the crawl must be saying about Madhu. But no one in RK Mansion was thinking the least bit logically today. All the drama was about feelings.

But he dragged Padmini into this, so she dragged Radha into it. There is an odd symmetry in this death duel they're fighting...

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