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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: AreYaar



An, as far as I understood his post...it is not different opinions that bother him but the utter lack of understanding...as an artist if you try to express something, tell a story, show layering to a character and ppl don't even get the essence of it one bit, it would be frustrating.

Most of the fans just seem to have their own agendas...the DD fans cuz they feel upset that Madhu is mistreated by RK and the VD fans have their own...then there's the Rishbala fans who just want romance, period...there aren't many fans who want to watch this for story and characterization.

He IS sticking to his vision as best as he can and I think he's managed quite well in a time where TRP pressures change perfectly good stories overnight into nightmares...a very good example being NBT.

I don't think he's venturing out and asking fans why they don't like what he's showing...if ppl ask him questions, he'll reply...which seems to be the case here...someone asked him and he replied...

I don't see anything wrong with him questioning the maturity of some fans with the way they've created uproars anytime a darker tone to RK's character is shown...I don't see where he called anyone dumb.

This is a complex story and there aren't many takers for complex stories of such sort on Indian TV...that they've managed to show this much layering to RK is an achievement in itself...don't know how long it will last though.


Anu: I believe in a good story and love watching good writing on screen. I don't have a moral compass when it comes to stories, I read all kinds, and as I said before also, I have no issues with R.K having any colour or the revenge drama. I did and still have a problem with the writing of the revenge track and this present so called redemption track. To be honest, his replies are making me question my own understanding of writing, whatever little I have thanks to it being my field of interest.

We all are not watching this show from the same window and if he expects that everyone is able to see the same view from their respective windows, he is completely being unrealistic. It's better not to communicate because then you won't just hear praises.

P.S.: I may not agree but never have wanted this show's TRPs to drop because it snatches away the creatives freedom to show what they want to show. But, the same way, I have the right to not agree to what he is trying to project.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: an12345678


Anu: I believe in a good story and love watching good writing on screen. I don't have a moral compass when it comes to stories, I read all kinds, and as I said before also, I have no issues with R.K having any colour or the revenge drama. I did and still have a problem with the writing of the revenge track and this present so called redemption track. To be honest, his replies are making me question my own understanding of writing, whatever little I have thanks to it being my field of interest.

We all are not watching this show from the same window and if he expects that everyone is able to see the same view from their respective windows, he is completely being unrealistic. It's better not to communicate because then you won't just hear praises.

P.S.: I may not agree but never have wanted this show's TRPs to drop because it snatches away the creatives freedom to show what they want to show. But, the same way, I have the right to not agree to what he is trying to project.



An, differences in opinion are bound to happen but I also am not able to understand why ppl can't understand the redemption/realization track even a TINY bit...I actually think the writing in those weeks has been some of the most fantastic in the show yet...

I'm not a professional writer like you may be but I've always loved reading so maybe that is where my perspective on this is coming from...different strokes I guess is what we'll have to leave it at...I don't personally get the sheer ANGER being directed at the writers for the revenge/redemption track...within the confines of a daily soap, they've managed to execute something amazing as far as I'm concerned...it is only this recent filler Don track which btw is heavily lifted from LTL that I'm not much of a fan of.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
i like Rk no matter what he is ,..he is awesome with uniqueness 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

rk is rk large the life

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Posted: 12 years ago
#35
realization is the first step of redemption...I would not like to show RK becoming a seedha saada and simply crying in redemption and helping poor and mellowing down...Thats not him...His redemption has to be different...BUTTT...now..seeing the reaction of the viewers...who obviously understand RK,life and love,characterizations more then me...we may have to show a ghisa pita redemption becos thats what would be understood...It was my mistake to believe that i m dealing with slightly mature fans...but i was totally wrong...

His jealousy...his anger...his possessiveness...that pooison in him...all that is love...a very dark side of love...which no one seems to understand...Very easy to throw bricks and thats what is been done...Infact thats why i have even stopped visiting those sites now...Why interact and just say thanks or sorry when they dont seem to understand anything...?People ask for layering...and when we give that..they ask for black or white characters...



RS Sir ...This is 4 u👏👏👏...U said it...😆...People want Black n Whilte characters only...If somebody does wrong tht person is totally wrong ...😆...Understanding RK...😆...Its a big joke ...Many understand only 1 thing...Crying...Bashing...n demanding 4 new jodis ...without understanding anything...😆...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: AreYaar


An, differences in opinion are bound to happen but I also am not able to understand why ppl can't understand the redemption/realization track even a TINY bit...I actually think the writing in those weeks has been some of the most fantastic in the show yet...

I'm not a professional writer like you may be but I've always loved reading so maybe that is where my perspective on this is coming from...different strokes I guess is what we'll have to leave it at...I don't personally get the sheer ANGER being directed at the writers for the revenge/redemption track...within the confines of a daily soap, they've managed to execute something amazing as far as I'm concerned...it is only this recent filler Don track which btw is heavily lifted from LTL that I'm not much of a fan of.


The same way you are unable to understand why some of us are not on the same page. 😊 You cannot blame the others of not seeing what they are attempting to show when you are unable to see why we are complaining. I am okay with the Don track, not because it's going to force R.K into doing something but because it adds to the intrigue and curiosity factor and how he changes the dynamics of a relationship.

Here is something that one of the books on my shelf say: "Fiction has the flexibility denied to film and drama, where everything the spectator knows must be shown."


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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
I still want RS to stick to the Redemption track HE PLANNED! Not the one which he calls ghisa pita... Coz it is ghisa pita! When RK is Alag Chhe so why can't his redemption be.
You should have asked, what made the team rope in SULTAN 😳
More than redemption, I wanna know this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Azmatazz

TFS

All pros and cons of belonging to the online virtual world i guess. I thought RS knew how to handle it all 😊 but then he too is a human so its understandable.
As far as i have understood team MB till date i don't think they would ever bow down to fans demands. They have beleived in their abilities and have shown what they have wanted to all the time, despite of all the compalints and cribbing. So far they have been successful and the numbers speak for them. And the way ST asks fans to watch something else if not liking the current track it only proves it 😊
My message to RS (if you can post it): Sir, Please understand that the more popular your show the more complaints you will have from the different 10000 fans. You should be happy about that and just take the comments in your own stride and let it not deter you. As you want fans to understand where you are coming from and how you perceive a character and its layers please understand that every fan has his own sensibility... and his own layer... You are not catering to a certain age group or a certain geography. You are catering to people from all strata of the society, all age groups and diversified all over the world, belonging to different beliefs, having different personalities. Not every one would be on the same page ofcourse and not everyone would be convinced with what you show.
Despite of all this, please understand that if we decide to come here, spend time discussing and debating or complaining over a character and how he / she behaves its only becuase we love the show and the characters. Had it not been the case why would one even invest anytime here. That too the precious time thats not going to bear anything fruitful 😉
So Sir just take a chill pill... At the end of the day we will have to see what you are showing for its not in our hands to change the course of the story 😆 (only if i wish that could have been the case 😃)




Azi- U have said everything I want to say.

I am sure with the negative feedback there would be posiitve feedback praising them too. But human nature only negative feedbacks are noticed and they are reacting to only those.

And they can't blame fans as U said. There are different people with different way of looking into things. And they cannot expect eveyrone's thinking to be the same. The fact that people are commenting negatively or posiitvely is proof enough show is being noticed and it matters to people who is spending so much time crib, praise or whatever. So it is not fair to judge people on their maturity level.


I think they should be able to take all these things and do their work as they feel is right.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
so true... people don't understand the meaning of a layered character.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: an12345678


The same way you are unable to understand why some of us are not on the same page. 😊 You cannot blame the others of not seeing what they are attempting to show when you are unable to see why we are complaining. I am okay with the Don track, not because it's going to force R.K into doing something but because it adds to the intrigue and curiosity factor and how he changes the dynamics of a relationship.

Here is something that one of the books on my shelf say: "Fiction has the flexibility denied to film and drama, where everything the spectator knows must be shown."




Alright, An...as it works for you guys...there is no point going round and round about the same thing.

I have not had any points presented to me about why the redemption is not being seen...while I think I've made enough points to show what is redemption in keeping with RK's character...ab if no one wants to understand, fair enough.

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