Episode 192 Discussion: 11th Feb 2013 - Page 10

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Posted: 12 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: zorica



Shri,

I understand why Madhu was quiet, she was humiliated. He makes fun with her deepest feelings.

I think she will remain silent, that will create an image that she wants to be with him, and that in itself will be plotting revenge. Maybe I'm wrong.


@Zorica - From what we have seen so far and how Madhu's character was portrayed she is not the kind of person who will plot and plan and execute her revenge like RK. She is more "facing the bull by its horn" type. If ever she does anything she will do it right in front of him not behind his back. Eventhough, RK was gloating with pride and arrogance over defeating her in all front he is still a coward because he had to play a cheap game of love just so he could fulfill his revenge. He could call himself a mastermind but his act to me is still of something that looks good on a spineless person not a superstar.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: kt25

@Shri - The two montages in succession did not make sense to me either. I think it could be a blooper or still they haven't figured out which one to use. 😕

I think they are waiting to see viewer reaction- if they buy the revenge then montage 2 it is otherwise we are back to montage 1 with a lame reason for all the drama.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Second Take - Technical Aspect


The writers failed to convince me. They are trying to sell me Revenge theme which still does not make sense. They just transplanted revenge in the story...and RK was realy trying to justify to viewers that this Revenge is for real...and that I have to buy.

The writers tried to fit all the events and try selling it...but it was forced.

The song was played for whom...

The two montages...in succession...seems writers have taken a lot of risk...

Its utter confusion...and sheer desperation from the writing team to reinstate the antagonist states between RK and Madhu to July story...

Basically who benefits now
The new viewers who just joined now, because now they really get to see the original story. viewers like us are cheated.


I am sold on revenge theme ( I am trying very hard to ignore all the evidence to the contrary and see RK as a very twisted person)...but I am not sold on the flimsy excuse for revenge. I have an odd feeling that soon I will be sold on redemption but will not be sold on excuse for this entire drama.
@bold: why would you say that?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: kt25


@Zorica - From what we have seen so far and how Madhu's character was portrayed she is not the kind of person who will plot and plan and execute her revenge like RK. She is more "facing the bull by its horn" type. If ever she does anything she will do it right in front of him not behind his back. Eventhough, RK was gloating with pride and arrogance over defeating her in all front he is still a coward because he had to play a cheap game of love just so he could fulfill his revenge. He could call himself a mastermind but his act to me is still of something that looks good on a spineless person not a superstar.


Priya,

I agree with you.
But Madhu is proud, and I think in this point she does not want to come back to him.
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: zorica


Priya,

I agree with you.
But Madhu is proud, and I think in this point she does not want to come back to him.


Madhu turns dark...was confirmed by DD in her interview with ABP team...because initially she was signed up for that. She said, later on her character will develop dark shades as the story grows.

The love story was never supposed to happen so soon...that's why VD and DD stopped giving interviews as they were confused on what to talk about their characters at the sudden change of the story.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: zorica



I understand why Madhu was quiet, she was humiliated. He makes fun with her deepest feelings.

I think she will remain silent, that will create an image that she wants to be with him, and that in itself will be plotting revenge. Maybe I'm wrong.



madhu at present was in completely broken state , in shock , dead n not in reactive state. ya madhu might come back to stay with rk in his own way but she wants to be with him n she may be play rk game too to be with him ,usually in soaps heroines are white so even they r made to emotionally dead their good souls stay intact but if she comes back n all for plotting revenge will be refreshing n interesting as in soaps we get to see different shades of heroine also , as only male characters are getting grey characters as main leads but both leads with human shades will be interesting.


Edited by Savz_uniqueblis - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

@Bold: Shree...My perspective is your violent self defense instinct kicks up when you are dealing with a stranger, When it is some one you love and the act is unexpected...you become numb...it feels like drowing in artic water with a heavy cloth on your mouth and nose. You want to scream but you can't ...you want to breathe but you can't. I would compare this situation to one nice day your extremely loving husband decides to tell you that he has been cheating on you for last few years, has an another family and is now walking away with all your savings. Your brain becomes hyperactive by your body is unable to react. I am not sure how others feel about it.
@red: Agreed...very well written


Why did Madhu remain mostly quiet during RK's monologue/gloating session ?

From the commercial marketing saleability point of view

Well, creators may think that will add to heaping sympathy towards her (bechari dukhiyari abla Indian nari pati ke julmon ki mari) thereby increasing TRP.😊

From more realistic/sensible/sensitive/logical (take your pick) point of view

She does not show knee-jerk reaction because she is not dealing with the stranger here. She is completely totally devoted to RK. Therefore her mind has protected her by completely shutting down thereby making her unable to voice any reaction (violent or otherwise) at all. Its like Dramacrazy12 says, she opens her mouth but no sound comes out at all. This is not a fictional reaction.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

I am sold on revenge theme ( I am trying very hard to ignore all the evidence to the contrary and see RK as a very twisted person)...but I am not sold on the flimsy excuse for revenge. I have an odd feeling that soon I will be sold on redemption but will not be sold on excuse for this entire drama.
@bold: why would you say that?


Answer is in the red bolded portion above.

Instead I just buy that RK and Madhu now need to be pitted against each other like deadly enemies.

If the July story was there, there were 100 ways in which RK would have tormented Madhu every day, even without marrying her...by play acting with her, may be trying to create affair with her...but all of it would have been realistically anatgonistic.
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Answer is in the red bolded portion above.

Instead I just buy that RK and Madhu now need to be pitted each other like deadly enemies.

If the July story was there, there were 100 ways in which RK would have tormented Madhu every day, even without marrying her...by play acting with her, may be trying to create affair with her...but all of it would have been realistically anatgonistic.

Okay...if pitting them against each other is the reason then I am seriously confused why they did not make use of multiple occassion that have come along the way. They could have taken love test up a notch and used it . Why filmsy excuse of 4 slaps and revenge for the same? I am lost what the writers want-
First they introduce a revenge theme with flimsiest of excuse and go overboard with it ...then they release speculation about redemption track...and hint at the fact that RK is not necessarily dark and we will see some resolution in a very short time period. So essentially they want the shoe on other foot...a dark Madhu and a behind the scene lovesick RK...Is that where we are headed...I will have a hard time buying that. I am already struggling to keep up with thier current story logically.
The lasting conclusion is that all the characters on the show are crazy - We have Radha who goes from weeping willows to self-centered MIL to abused woman to strong advocate of woman rights. Dips has a perverse fascination with RK but no one notices and RK never strongly disabuses her of the notion in a way that counts. We have RK who constantly moves between extreme and contrary characterstics. We have Trishna whose emotional immaturity makes me cringe. We have soft spoken Shamsher capable of cold blooded murder not once but twice and now we will have Madhu who will be angel with grey shades.
Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Soureb Tiwari did post that the love act was not fake. Maybe RK did fall for her but his ego is still ruling his heart and not the other way around. He needs to be without her to realize what has happened he is usto being on top of the world. Has anyone seen the film dillagi? In the movie Bobby Doel character thinks he is indomitable and can never fall in love and just hangs arounds girl for fun. He is spoiled by his family the same way RK is spoiled by being a superstar. In the same way he breaks Urmila's heart and tells he never loved her and is convinced that he never loved her. But he realizes his feelings way too late in the story. Like someone else posted on a forum a breakup doesnt really hit a man till long after it is over.
Edited by Gurtiluv - 12 years ago

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