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Posted: 12 years ago
#31
I am happy with the way Trishna's character is being developed.
I was actually wondering 2 or 3 days back if we will get to see that Trishna genuinely feels Malik-Pads union as necessary an voice it out or she would just go with the flow and be happy if her parents are happy. And today I got my answer.
The moment she encounters Balraj, the first thing that came to her mind was Maa and how she needs to immediately ward off Ballu before he sees Padmini. As Shri, said in her post 2 days back, Trishna values the r'ships that she forged to create a family and sometime back, that family was cracking and breaking and blamed RK and Madhu for that. But now, all of them are trying to gather themselves together and she sees hope of that happy family again. And when all this is happening, she comes face-to face with Ballu , who could potentially erase that family for good. Her first instinct is to keep everyone away from Ballu.

Pads-Trish and Madhu, all of them are strong women, fighters and survivors. Am hoping, these three would join forces,flanked by Malik and RK and become a formidable team to topple Ballu.. Anyways let's see how Trish's character progresses.

Radha-Padmini: Seems like Radha knows the entire Malik's and Chaudhary's dastaan... Radha sensibly and factually tried to tell Padmini to let go of her previous marriage and embrace Malik.

I can't exactly exactly point out Radha's opinion on what RK thinks of remarriage- whether it's the remarriage funda itself or the person she remarried. But if it is the former, then she is actually glad that RK is crusading Pads-Malik union and she is contributing to make their effort fruitful. It can also be that the writers are just making Radha the voice of the society apart from the fact that she is of the same gen as Pads and experienced on this front too. RK-Madhu, Trish are all Pads children, so Radha is just being the outsider and rep the society.

Uff Madhu, what's with tears?. Am getting bored of RK trying to tease you for the same thing.. How many times, can he come up with different ways to tell the same thing. Hope kal khushi ke ansoo na bahao tum...

Precap: Are we gearing up for a filmy Pads-Malik reunion?

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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

I thought everyone emoted really well. In such scenes, its really easy to go over the top and spoil the intensity of a scene. But everyone held it together very well. Be it Padmini, Trishna, or Radhaji, no one was unnecessarily melodramatic or loud. Makes all the difference!

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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
My thoughts not exactly on the episode but,overall on the present tracks...

Loving Padmini- Mallik's marriage track...it was long awaited and much needed...initiated by who...their daamad,the very man who once tainted it-super star RK...nice closure there by cv's...Trishna and ballu's re-entry track is going great too..I am happy that we are getting to see different facets of Trishna...I remember as a child,she was shown as a dutiful daughter
and loving big sister...In one of the earlier episodes when Pads returns to the chawl after madhu's birth,the chawl ladies offer to show Trishna something they brought for her but,she innocently refuses to go see it saying she is busy as she got a sister now and needs to take care of her...seems as she grew older her dreams and ambitions which inadvertently got shattered by madhu took precedence over her love for that little sis...With ballu's entry,the traumatic memories etched in the young mind evoked that fear again...the fear that bonded her with padmini...the fear which gave her the strength to trust and run away with her...I am excited to see what all Trishna would do to keep ballu away from her mother...the woman who gave her a new life and whom she took for granted and hurt repeatedly saying she prefers Madhu over her as she is her sautela...life is coming a full circle for them...Though Ballu is mainly after Madhu...Trishna is the one who suffered a lot and a witness to his barbaric acts...so,I wish a full on Ballu-Trishna track where she would to some extent, avenge her and her mothers suffering or would it be the other way with Trishna falling prey to ballu's manipulations and causing more troubles to Mallik's and Madhu 😕...I am guessing when it comes to protecting the sisters from ballu,shamsher saving Trishna and RK saving madhu would be good...

In todays episode,it was good to see Radhaji talk to Padmini about remarriage and leaving past baggage...cv's are mixing RK's reconciliation to his mom's remarriage with pad's remarriage track...I guess though RK wouldn't consider the Bhatia's any worth,he would come to terms with his mom's remarriage by the end of this track (his sasuma's remarriage) thus mending his own relation and leaving past baggage too...I wouldn't say he would become lovey-dovey with his mom but,could just forgive her and let it go which would give him peace of mind...
Edited by himbin - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
With VD gone for two weeks, I have to give it to the CVs for doing their best with the supporting cast keeping in mind the entertainment factor and TRPs. With VD being gone, they have to try and keep the viewers entertained and what better track than focusing on Malik/Padmini relationship and finally reach a high point by getting them married. From what I have read in news articles, wedding tracks always bring in high TRPs with the viewers showing interest in all sorts of rites and rituals.


Yesterday both myself and MM raised a question on Shri's post about Radha being a voice of reason and convincing Padmini to remarry. We were questioning her credibility considering the way the CVs have portrayed her so far. The characters are truly like a putty in the hands of the CVs who get molded according to their needs and shown in a light that is for better or worse. That was the case with the character of Radha who was shown as a spineless, lacking in self respect, self centered person to the most part. Today, the CVs made her the one person who has all the reasoning and knowledge in the world to convince a stubborn person like Padmini give in to the thought of remarriage. Her dialogues to Padmini were very good and I have to give that she admitted her fault in getting remarried eventhough her intention was to make her son happy which we all know she failed miserably. The statements about women power and what women can do were all good but it was a bit too much coming from her considering that she does not practice what she preaches.


Trishna who was always shown as self obsessed, self centered person has grown out of her shell and is now thinking about someone other than herself. That is a welcoming change and it must have been hard for her to admit that Madhu and RK were right in wanting them to get married but she did it anyway. I applaud her for that. I couldn't stop but wonder is it because she has seen Ballu and wants her mom protected and who else other than Malik is fit for that role? Would she have stood by RK/Madhu's suggestion if she had not seen Ballu? I also liked the fact that she put her mom's well being above herself and hence irrespective of her fear and repugnance for Ballu she agreed to his proposal to work in his movie. She is not selfish to the core considering she is willingly putting herself in harm's way to guard her mom from the demon of their past.


Madhu's crying is not going to stop and we might all as well get used to it considering the CVs themselves made RK voice our opinion as a request to her when he asked her to stop crying and her response to that was it is her birth right and she isn't going to give that up. So Radha is now in talking terms to RK as she was asking him not to chide Madhu who is already distressed? RK never responded to her request but it seems that it no longer bothers him to see her in their room that too sitting on their bed.


Precap is a bit OTT with Malik leaving a note and performing a disappearing act. How different is this from RK planting a hoax call? If RK's act is deemed childish and immatured, then what do we make out of Malik's act. Malik's decision to leave his family of twenty years without letting them know where he is going is equally childish and immatured. Is he going to get slapped as well? Nah! I don't think so but just wondering..
Edited by kt25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: himbin

My thoughts not exactly on the episode but,overall on the present tracks...

Loving Padmini- Mallik's marriage track...it was long awaited and much needed...initiated by who...their daamad,the very man who once tainted it-super star RK...nice closure there by cv's...Trishna and ballu's re-entry track is going great too..I am happy that we are getting to see different facets of Trishna...I remember as a child,she was shown as a dutiful daughter
and loving big sister...In one of the earlier episodes when Pads returns to the chawl after madhu's birth,the chawl ladies offer to show Trishna something they brought for her but,she innocently refuses saying she is busy as she got a sister now and needs to take care of her...seems as she grew older her dreams and ambitions which inadvertently got shattered by madhu took precedence over her love for that little sis...With ballu's entry,the traumatic memories etched in the young mind evoked that fear again...the fear that bonded her with padmini...the fear which gave her the strength to trust and run away with her...I am excited to see what all Trishna would do to keep ballu away from her mother...the woman who gave her a new life and whom she took for granted and hurt repeatedly saying she prefers Madhu over her as she is her sautela...life is coming a full circle for them...Though Ballu is mainly after Madhu...Trishna is the one who suffered a lot and a witness to his barbaric acts...so,I wish a full on Ballu-Trishna track where she would to some extent, avenge her and her mothers suffering or would it be the other way with Trishna falling prey to ballu's manipulations and causing more troubles to Mallik's and Madhu 😕...I am guessing when it comes to protecting the sisters from ballu,shamsher saving Trishna and RK saving madhu would be good...

In todays episode,it was good to see Radhaji talk to Padmini about remarriage and leaving past baggage...cv's are mixing RK's reconciliation to his mom's remarriage with pad's remarriage track...I guess though RK wouldn't consider the Bhatia's any worth,he would come to terms with his mom's remarriage by the end of this track (his sasuma's remarriage) thus mending his own relation and leaving past baggage too...I wouldn't say he would become lovey-dovey with his mom but,could just forgive her and let it go which would give him peace of mind...


Beautiful Hima.

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I did not know that Trishna was shown to be that dutiful. Though in trailers and later scenes in present times, I could see that she does have some good characteristics...so much that when Shamsher was planning to kill RK, he had been taking Trishna's name too ...saying meri beti ke sapne...

In past couple of days, Zorica and now you tell me about the past story...seems now I should just go over and watch those episodes. Will watch this weekend.

Hope the CVs keep up the same momentum and give good story instead of just filler ceremonies...Agree Anandi-Shiv's marriage and their month long ceremonies gave then 5+ TRP (some including 6+ TRP), but Padmini and Shamsher are no Shiv-Anandi jodi.

So far so good. Keeping fingers crossed.
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

SD, I hope the CVs would show why Pads have been wearing the mangalsutra and sindoor all these years for Ballu. Was it bcos of society or bcos of her personal beliefs? For a sensible woman she has been inflicting misery on herself all these years wearing them? Why? Perhaps we would get the answers to these questions in the coming episodes (if they arent already answered in today's).

A question to all: Does Radha think that RK has accepted Radha-Kukku remarriage? RK initiating Pads-Malik remarriage should have suggested to Radha that her son's non-acceptance of his mother's marriage is bcos of Kukku Bhatia. RK would have accepted his mother's remarriage had it been to someone other that Kuku Bhatia.

Pads ran away from Ballu bcos of Madhu. RK and Ballu met bcos of Madhu. Soon things will come a full circle with Pads-Ballu meeting. It would be interesting to see how the story goes from there. Will RK have the much desired union with Madhu? Is his longing for the 7-phere marriage and yearning for complete possession of Madhu, the hurdles, the frustrations, the pain, the dissatisfaction, what is depicted in his Hum Hai Deewane song?


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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: kt25

With VD gone for two weeks, I have to give it to the CVs for doing their best with the supporting cast keeping in mind the entertainment factor and TRPs. With VD being gone, they have to try and keep the viewers entertained and what better track than focusing on Malik/Padmini relationship and finally reach a high point by getting them married. From what I have read in news articles, wedding tracks always bring in high TRPs with the viewers showing interest in all sorts of rites and rituals.


Yesterday both myself and MM raised a question on Shri's post about Radha being a voice of reason and convincing Padmini to remarry. We were questioning her credibility considering the way the CVs have portrayed her so far. The characters are truly like a putty in the hands of the CVs who get molded according to their needs and shown in a light that is for better or worse. That was the case with the character of Radha who was shown as a spineless, lacking in self respect, self centered person to the most part. Today, the CVs made her the one person who has all the reasoning and knowledge in the world to convince a stubborn person like Padmini give in to the thought of remarriage. Her dialogues to Padmini were very good and I have to give that she admitted her fault in getting remarried eventhough her intention was to make her son happy which we all know she failed miserably. The statements about women power and what women can do were all good but it was a bit too much coming from her considering that she does not practice what she preaches.


Trishna who was always shown as self obsessed, self centered person has grown out of her shell and is now thinking about someone other than herself. That is a welcoming change and it must have been hard for her to admit that Madhu and RK were right in wanting them to get married but she did it anyway. I applaud her for that. I couldn't stop but wonder is it because she has seen Ballu and wants her mom protected and who else other than Malik is fit for that role? Would she have stood by RK/Madhu's suggestion if she had not seen Ballu? I also liked the fact that she put her mom's well being above herself and hence irrespective of her fear and repugnance for Ballu she agreed to his proposal to work in his movie. She is not selfish to the core considering she is willingly putting herself in harm's way to guard her mom from the demon of their past.


Madhu's crying is not going to stop and we might all as well get used to it considering the CVs themselves made RK voice our opinion as a request to her when he asked her to stop crying and her response to that was it is her birth right and she isn't going to give that up. So Radha is now in talking terms to RK as she was asking him not to chide Madhu who is already distressed? RK never responded to her request but it seems that it no longer bothers him to see her in their room that too sitting on their bed.


Precap is a bit OTT with Malik leaving a note and performing a disappearing act. How different is this from RK planting a hoax call? If RK's act is deemed childish and immatured, then what do we make out of Malik's act. Malik's decision to leave his family of twenty years without letting them know where he is going is equally childish and immatured. Is he going to get slapped as well? Nah! I don't think so but just wondering..



@kt25: You mention a good point here. It must have been tough for Trishna to put all her bitterness towards Madhu and RK aside and think of the greater good in their intentions. She did that, which goes to show that she is Padmini's upbringing and a woman of strength.

As for Ballu's presence instigating her thoughts to support this marriage, I don't think so. The manner in which she put across her point(I do not remember the exact dialogues. Something along the lines of RK was right), does not indicate that there was any outside factor involved, other than seeing her Malik and Maa happy together, in her support for RKs intentions. As Shri mentioned in her post 'Subtleties of Relationships', Trishna has seen relationships being built around her and has been an active part of the process. Therefore she values them. Hence, I feel she genuinely wants Malik and Padmini to get married.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@kt25:
Malik did not run away from his family, he ran away because he was afraid of his feelings. He tries to escape from himself.He and Padmini are actually ashamed of their feelings. As adolescents.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: applenpeaches

A question to all: Does Radha think that RK has accepted Radha-Kukku remarriage? RK initiating Pads-Malik remarriage should have suggested to Radha that her son's non-acceptance of his mother's marriage is bcos of Kukku Bhatia. RK would have accepted his mother's remarriage had it been to someone other that Kuku Bhatia.

Pads ran away from Ballu bcos of Madhu. RK and Ballu met bcos of Madhu. Soon things will come a full circle with Pads-Ballu meeting. It would be interesting to see how the story goes from there. Will RK have the much desired union with Madhu? Is his longing for the 7-phere marriage and yearning for complete possession of Madhu, the hurdles, the frustrations, the pain, the dissatisfaction, what is depicted in his Hum Hai Deewane song?



Peach,

In my pov ,RK had trouble with both his mom's remarriage and her remarriage with Kuku...he considered her remarriage as her betrayal to his father...and the kind of person she got married
made things worse...Radha and pads situations are just the opposite...Mohan kundra is probably like Shamsher,a good loving father albeit a coward and Kuku is like ballu,selfish ,rouge
albeit not so dangerous ...so,their situations though looks alike is so very different...
I liked Radha's saying today of how her remarriage cost her, her son precisely for whom she did it and how lucky Pads is to have her own children rooting for her new life...shows how important a child's consent is in a remarriage as it directly affects them...I hope Radha is not dumb enough to think RK would accept Kuku ...but,he would sure come to terms with the fact of his mom's remarriage...

@Re 7 phera marriage...I highly doubt it would happen...my guess is madhu would deny to do 7 phera marriage (due to ballu's force/blackmail) and RK would force her into films as attaining her love is his dream...and his dream becomes her reality...therefore films become her haqeeqat on whose canvas RK's love story full of yearning and passion would be written😳 ...I better come back from my imagination 😳 and end my ramble...hope it made sense...😊.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Radha-Padmini: Seems like Radha knows the entire Malik's and Chaudhary's dastaan... Radha sensibly and factually tried to tell Padmini to let go of her previous marriage and embrace Malik.

Zoya,
Padmini wants to marry Malik, but he must first offer her marriage! 😳

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