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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Neither can I.. But Thats what I think..

@all, what do u think?

Malik's running away has more to do with filler episodes than with TRP. Thats my opinion.. Unless the CVs are taking this as an opportunity to dwell further into Padmini's character...


Peach - I think just like RK's hoax call brought out her inner feelings/emotions for Malik , this act of Malik is also intended for Padmini to fess up. Is n't there a saying that you don't know the worth or value of someone until you lose that someone?? You get the point right?? While she is running searching for Malik she might get FBs of what all he went through for her and her daughters and might finally realize that she cannot imagine a life without him and admit that to him. She already said earlier she would die if something were to happen to him during the hoax call act of RK.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: kt25

@Ananya - I thought so too. But had an inkling of doubt about Trishna which I am sure I can now put to rest 😃. Courtesy to SBS/SBB videos , we see that both Madhu and Trishna patching up during Padmini's Mehndi ceremony.. Now will she atleast tell Madhu about Ballu being back in Mumbai or will she try to hide it from all. If she is worried about Padmini and Madhu and does not want to traumatize them, she should atleast tell Roma and Malik so they are prepared for Ballu and not get blind sighted.


@Zorica - I understand that they both are too embarrassed to talk about it but him running away trying to hide his feelings is not going to serve any purpose. Right? He is basically deserting them out of fear of losing them. If only he sat down and thought through calmly, he could have discussed it with Padmini that she is under no pressure to give a name to this relationship and it's up to them to make a decision. If she does not want this marriage then no one will force her. That should have been the approach and not running away. But this filmy approach is definitely bound to create more drama with Padmini running like mad on the streets trying to find him and finally seeing him at a bus stop or a train station followed by tearful reunion. There is no denying all of this high drama is aimed at the TRPs. Nonetheless, I will go for the ride whether I like it or not because they cannot show stuff that is going to be liked by everyone all the time and I also understand that they have to cater to the needs of people of all kind.

Everything you say is true! We understand each other completely. 👍🏼
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


I did not know that Trishna was shown to be that dutiful. Though in trailers and later scenes in present times, I could see that she does have some good characteristics...so much that when Shamsher was planning to kill RK, he had been taking Trishna's name too ...saying meri beti ke sapne...

In past couple of days, Zorica and now you tell me about the past story...seems now I should just go over and watch those episodes. Will watch this weekend.

Hope the CVs keep up the same momentum and give good story instead of just filler ceremonies...Agree Anandi-Shiv's marriage and their month long ceremonies gave then 5+ TRP (some including 6+ TRP), but Padmini and Shamsher are no Shiv-Anandi jodi.

So far so good. Keeping fingers crossed.


Shri,

@BOLD...very true...Pads-Shamsher are no Anandi-shiv...They better keep the marriage crisp and simple with subtle emotions involving the family ...I am loving how many of the Indian daily's are portraying remarriages and showing its o.k to move on...good progression there..😊

Trishna's character has lot of potential...and I am happy that they finally seem to be working with her track... .I wish they had cast a better actress for that role though 😊.
Edited by himbin - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: zorica

Everything you say is true! We understand each other completely. 👍🏼


Thank you 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ALL - A random question, please don't throw tamatars or rotten eggs at me? ..Everybody is busy discussing the main plot/story line while here I am with this silly rant 😆 Ducking my head now..

I couldn't stop but wonder why on earth Trishna is wearing western outfit even to the temple? Could she have not changed? It is not that she does not have suits or salwars. She does seem to wear them during special occasions and why not when going to temple?? It looked odd and out of place in today's episode.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

Hmmm. Every one seems to agree that yesterday Madhu-Radha scene was precursor for today's Radha-Padmini scene

But do you know what I think, who would have been the right person for Padmini to have this conversation?

Not Radha but Roma.

What better way to have Roma re-enter this serial. Who better to understand Padmini (apart from Malik i.e.) than Roma.

It is Roma who has been witness for all these 20 years, who has seen Padmini-Malik interactions, who could better feel and understand the nuances of their relationship, who might have on some level always nurtured a wish for Padmini as her bhabhi.

Granted she is never married but how does that matter?

CV should have handled this in a completely different way when everyone was expecting Radha to be the ideal choice for this. That would have made it special.
Keeping it unexpected and unconventional need not happen only for RK and Madhu in this serial.!!!

Don't ya think?


MM,

I like that they brought Radha to talk about this. Because it adds strength from societal sanction that it is OKAY to get remarried. Padmini is all TRADITIONAL coming from rural backdrop. She does not have the sophisticated mind to leave traditiions if not prodded by OVERRIDING Emotions.

So Radha is that rationale.

And Roma is a bad example from the point of view of social sanction. She is unmarried and will not know what it means to do away with old marriage and accept a second man as her partner.

But yes, Roma would have been excellent as a Padmini's FRIEND to share and advise her something on emotional level. And she would have been such a bridge between her brother and Padmini. But then again question would arise, why for so many years the FRIEND in Roma never saw that her brother and Padmini love each other. Sometimes near ones take everything for granted. It takes an OUTSIDER to PUT everything in perspective.

Now when Shamsher leaves everything, Padmini will have her emotions taking control of her. Because Padmini respects traditions, but she is also an emotional person. That may make her set aside everything rationally and just listen to her heart.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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On the 7 phere marraige thing...I think it will happen much sooner than that...I can't imagine seeing the couple dealing with all the pent up frustation for a long time. However we can not have another marraige soon after Padmini and Shamsher marraige so my assumption is it will have to drag for a while.
My guess is plot wise RK has promised to make things right including undoing the damage he did to Trishna's career. That task might turn out to be much more difficult and long than RK expected. With Ballu's entry, things are going to get messy. Besides I cannot see RK making peace with Kuku so the only way for honest reconcilliation is Radha is made aware of Kuku's activities which will open a huge can of worm- circumstancesof Mahesh Kundra's death. Dipali will be ofcourse playing her own mind games-if not with RK then with much simpler Madhu until everything comes to a boiling point and the past of both the characters is resolved for most part. I expect the marraige to take place somewhere around here. With current pace and all the tracks that can/may be included...we are looking at 2-4 months before the marraige takes place.
My guess is that Mahesh Kundra dreamt of making a certain movie and RK will take on himself to finish the dream and he will cast his wife for whatever reasons in it.
Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

SD, I hope the CVs would show why Pads have been wearing the mangalsutra and sindoor all these years for Ballu. Was it bcos of society or bcos of her personal beliefs? For a sensible woman she has been inflicting misery on herself all these years wearing them? Why? Perhaps we would get the answers to these questions in the coming episodes (if they arent already answered in today's).

A question to all: Does Radha think that RK has accepted Radha-Kukku remarriage? RK initiating Pads-Malik remarriage should have suggested to Radha that her son's non-acceptance of his mother's marriage is bcos of Kukku Bhatia. RK would have accepted his mother's remarriage had it been to someone other that Kuku Bhatia.

Pads ran away from Ballu bcos of Madhu. RK and Ballu met bcos of Madhu. Soon things will come a full circle with Pads-Ballu meeting. It would be interesting to see how the story goes from there. Will RK have the much desired union with Madhu? Is his longing for the 7-phere marriage and yearning for complete possession of Madhu, the hurdles, the frustrations, the pain, the dissatisfaction, what is depicted in his Hum Hai Deewane song?

Peach,

1) Padmini and her defunct marriage

I answered all those questions for you in the META thread when we met. 😆 You wan't me to answer again. No way !!! Go back to read.

And actually, I did answer this in my episode take today.

>>>But Padmini her background had not been an educated one. She was a poor woman from Mutihari married to Balraj to beget a male-child...another rampant social evil (gender inequality). From a male dominated society, Padmini had also cowering and binding principles that cloud her sense of independence to think of anything of herself. However, the good thing about Padmini was she chose to heed to Daiima's advice and run away from Balraj's feudal control along with her step daughter, while Madhu was still in her womb. She reached Mumbai and since then dedicated her life to raising her daughters with the help of her friend Roma and her brother Shamsher Malik.

You should have seen Balika Vadhu. Anandi inspite of being educated, how she was unwilling to remove all the symbols of her marriage to Jagya and get divorce and get remarried. She was forced to let go of all these things by her Daadimaa (Granny) to beat the sense into her...making the show a lesson to society...how the old woman is advising the younger woman to stop wallowing in pain and just embrace new life. That got Colors HIGH TRPs. So part of Padmini's story gets cue from there and part from the fact that her story was kept low so that later it is addressed again in this manner.

The end result is that the channel in the name of Fiction programming is catering to masses what they want to see. And Peach, trust me...the Northern India is far more discriminated than women in down south. A North Indian woman and a South Indian woman does not think alike. I have seen this first rate with my friends and both my friends (one Punjabi and other a Pahari from Uttaranchal) are survivors and fighters. I saw them put up fight with including their mothers to question every convention and yet reserving the emotional bonds of every relation. But deep down it is their blood..the reticence of centuries...so they look subdued, or look cynical or act feminists in total rebellion and then most times are realists and act practically. I see them as stronger than me, much more resilient.

So slow teaching works when catering to masses. You cannot show the TV show as if catering to University students. Even if women like watching progressive woman shows, do you think they will not fear what her husband will think of her when she is watching that show or her saas thinks of when she enjoys progressive woman shows. Sometimes pretence is also escape for them.


2) RK-Radha over Radha remarriage...so far the mother and son have not talked. We are only hearing what mother has to say when she spoke to Madhu. And likewise what RK said to Madhu (without giving her any chance to ask back). So we the viewers really do not know WHAT WENT WRONG THERE ? Its only hear-say. We can expect full revelation some day when CVs choose to play that track.

3) yes, 7 phera marriage is the answer to Rishabh's own mock-marriage act and all his yearning depicted in Hum Deewane Song. With 4 phera marriage he got the rights to be Madhu's husband as wife in legal sense...yeah..the Hindu act will not question whether it was 4 phera or 7 phera. She is his wife because he married her in front people.That's valid enough. With a 7 phera marriage, RK wants to be blessed by Gods in beating the UNLUCKY thing tagged by himself and The Curse added by Trishna.


Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: himbin

@ Ananya05,Peach,Sima,


I am sorry if I am causing confusion with my irrational predictions...
Its just that I don't see any reason for Cv's bringing in a 7 phera marriage into the story
without them intending for some major drama and twists and turns...RK did the 4 phera marriage to always keep her confused with whether she is fully married as per hindu rituals or
not and I don't think the story would progress so smoothly with both getting what they want now...CV's would keep them both yearning for a long time to stay true to their title...my prediction is based on like ballu might want to separate them as he doesn't want Madhu to become Mrs.superstar R.K so,might blackmail Madhu.But,then she is already his wife...so,how is it going to make a difference..?? well...then ,why did the 7 phera marriage came into the story at the first place...Madhu might try to go away from RK (not by choice) and R.K would counter by getting her into films...thereby making her even more famous than before 😳



I agree with what you said there. But as a viewer, its going to be really agonizing for us to bear with this anticipation of 7 phere marriage. There is no way they can drag that marriage until the end of the show. From what I understand, the show has a larger periphery than just Rishbala marriage. Their marriage is just a part of the plot. Not the culmination of this storyline. Hence, I believe they should be done with this marriage some time after Padmini-Shamsher marriage.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25

@Ananya - I thought so too. But had an inkling of doubt about Trishna which I am sure I can now put to rest 😃. Courtesy to SBS/SBB videos , we see that both Madhu and Trishna patching up during Padmini's Mehndi ceremony.. Now will she atleast tell Madhu about Ballu being back in Mumbai or will she try to hide it from all. If she is worried about Padmini and Madhu and does not want to traumatize them, she should atleast tell Roma and Malik so they are prepared for Ballu and not get blind sighted.


@Zorica - I understand that they both are too embarrassed to talk about it but him running away trying to hide his feelings is not going to serve any purpose. Right? He is basically deserting them out of fear of losing them. If only he sat down and thought through calmly, he could have discussed it with Padmini that she is under no pressure to give a name to this relationship and it's up to them to make a decision. If she does not want this marriage then no one will force her. That should have been the approach and not running away. But this filmy approach is definitely bound to create more drama with Padmini running like mad on the streets trying to find him and finally seeing him at a bus stop or a train station followed by tearful reunion. There is no denying all of this high drama is aimed at the TRPs. Nonetheless, I will go for the ride whether I like it or not because they cannot show stuff that is going to be liked by everyone all the time and I also understand that they have to cater to the needs of people of all kind.



Yes. It makes sense for her to at least make Malik, Roma I would say even RK aware of Ballus comeback, just to put them on guard.
But, what is bothering me now is, we know Madhu-Trishna are going to patch up. So, how would this shape up RK-Trishna relationship? How long would it take for both of them to accept each other as family? If they do, will RKs POV towards launching Trishna's career change? Will he come out in the open as the man behind Trishna's big break or still choose to remain secret? Because, all of this points to the fact that unknowingly it is RK who has brought back Ballu in their lives. It will be intereting to see how would RK react to this.
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