RK's baggage is annoying me now - Page 3

NS, Very interesting discussion...

Sometimes sees such serials make me wonder if there are people who carry as much baggage as RK does. But I guess, if one searches we may find many like him.. As for marriage, people always expect more from the girl than from the boy- adarsh bahu and the rest of the rubbish.. It doesnt matter if the husband is a wife-beater or much worse the woman is supposed to bear it all and turn him into a saint.. If th4 roles were reversed I dont think there will be many who will watch such shows- the audience loves a meek wife and and not the reverse..

As for marriage, I guess I am not qualified to comment on that aspect.. I only know one thing, I dont want a man with so many baggages.. I want a simple boring life and a family unlike the Bhatias..

Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

You know how men in society go looking for a pure bride (virginal, sanskar, pavarish etc) to marry, I swear it should also be in the reverse, we women always get a raw deal, marry these monsters that we need to butter up and make them normal sensitive human beings...uff

Originally posted by: Athena90

I see where you are coming from, but I sort of disagree.

His baggage is what has caused him to lose belief, but reason aside, he does not believe in these rituals with good reason. His reason that people try and follow them for one day to fool God is quite accurate. His opinion is well-founded. While it is also acceptable that Madhu believes in these rituals, one cannot force the other to comply. Madhu can fast, but she can't expect RK to break it.

Why is it that we find it unacceptable that RK would not believe in rituals or does not want to kowtow to Madhu's beliefs but it is fine that Madhu would not bow to RK's wishes and not follow these rituals? That's guided completely by the way we look at situations. We feel these rituals are right, and hence not following them is wrong. And we feel RK is wrong.

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

NS, Very interesting discussion...

Sometimes sees such serials make me wonder if there are people who carry as much baggage as RK does. But I guess, if one searches we may find many like him.. As for marriage, people always expect more from the girl than from the boy- adarsh bahu and the rest of the rubbish.. It doesnt matter if the husband is a wife-beater or much worse the woman is supposed to bear it all and turn him into a saint.. If th4 roles were reversed I dont think there will be many who will watch such shows- the audience loves a meek wife and and not the reverse..

As for marriage, I guess I am not qualified to comment on that aspect.. I only know one thing, I dont want a man with so many baggages.. I want a simple boring life and a family unlike the Bhatias..

Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

Yes what you say is right if you look at it from that perspective, but consider the evaluation process of a bride and groom before marriage, in RK and Madhu's case RK was attracted to Madhu, perhaps you don't agree or have not considered this yet, but he liked how honest and straight she was, and he mentioned that they were destined to be together when he proposed to her, the confession about her nature came at the lake side, so he approved of her and she because of her father's treatment took him up on his offer, but nothing else did she consider, the problems of his belief's were not a factor to Madhu. But she is struggling to adjust to a man that says he doesn't have the same belief's as her, for Ganesh festival she won him over (so RK saying he didn't believe was not even true, remember akinjot lamp that he saved and also the veg kebabs natak) and now for KC she needs to do the same again, and she will win him over again because he will accept that she the honest old fashioned wife that she is does have faith in KC and that because he knows her nature he can trust that some people do perform KC as it should be for and not for other motives like Radhaji and Deepali. With KC in particular you need participation of the husband so most definitely it's not acceptable to allow him to go his own way, i know some wife's break their fast with water and a picture of their husband, but we viewers love KC tracks and to us we are willing Madhu on to change RK as we can see the reason he is cynical about religion is because of his mother and step family. So we don't want a cynical hero, at least not when it comes to religion.

p.s. Athena sorry for the big chunky paragraph, I didn't want to break it up as it's all related.

Originally posted by: Athena90

Hahah, this is where the argument gets confusing and slightly convoluted perhaps. Let me deal with the each aspect of your argument individually.

1. I don't think RK was attracted to her. The initial premise of the marriage was simply a contract to make her life miserable. All the honesty, etc were afterthoughts and feelings that developed during the course of the marriage.

2. The whole ideas of viewers now detract from the original argument of just the two characters. If we bring what viewers want and TRPs into consideration, then the whole idea of 'changing the man' and being an 'adarsh wife and husband' all makes sense (still, I would argue that its unfortunate). But if this was the initial argument, then it is needed to show alot of baggage initially with RK in order to show how Madhu, as the perfect wife is able to change him.

3. You started the argument with the two characters, hypothetically speaking, without the whole idea of viewers want. If we were to ignore what viewers want and deal with the characters as a simple character analysis, then I stick by my stance - that it is Madhu that is being more unreasonable!