Episode 128 Discussion: 20th Nov 2012 - Page 5

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Posted: 12 years ago
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New promo guys... Hotty hugging Mads...

Edited by Siri22 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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OK rewatched the epi and a small take ..

BIG time disappointed in mads expressions esp when she heard Malik trying to kill Hotty a thrid time. No shock? Nothing..

She just looked as if ... I don't know how to put it nicely.

I thought that would be the turning point when she comes to know of the thrid attempt. I mean it's disgusting someone comes to Puja with evil intentions in their mind.

And Mads still was demanding "Mere sawal ka jawab do" 😕

Like really Mads?

Also disappointed that cv's didn't show much about Dips and RK. I for one would have loved to see( only if Hotty is not touchy touchy with the witch) how hard RK had fallen for Dips and how dips dumped him.

Then I would be able to relate better to his pain and why he feels disgusted with Dips.

I just feel RK's revealing of past has been rushed.

Edited by Siri22 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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ya guyz nothing much revealed same things said n shown recycled n reshuffled 🥱of rk past. me too didn't understand wat madhu asking or want to lsiten at this time why rk closed the case 😕 is she expecting confession or wat. seems shot or editing or direction , some one must low the BG voice while actors telling dialogues. madhu asked n rk started story telling 🥱 so is rk still loving dips tats y can't throw her out frm house.
seems cvs confused wat to show with scene of rk revealing malik another secret with mixed emotions of madhu ,seems cvs r in still scriptwork for furhter drama until then filler epis it seems. it's my opinion,no offence to anyone.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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"telly tadka's" review of the episode: "The Anguish of a Scarred Soul"

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3301065/telly-tadka-anguish-of-scarred-soul

Try to read the entire article, it is done beautifully.



Edited by Red_Opium - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Today's episode was very emotional and it showed us the vulnerable side of RK. Prior to today's episode, I always felt that RK is a man of mystery who hid his softer, more caring and understanding side under his tough exterior. He might appear to be all business, but inside that tough exterior he hurts sometimes too. His confession to Madhu was truly heartrending to her and as a viewer I could empathize with him and completely understand his plight and see him why he is the way he is. I felt that he truly deserved someone to be just there for him not necessarily under the pretext of healing all his wounds but just being there for him to lean on when he is emotionally broken. Both VD and DD were stupendous in their performance today. RK's confession to Madhu by the lake was perfect and well executed by the CVs. It could not have been any better. He was distraught with painful memories of his past and was so overcome with grief that he did not even pay attention to all her advances of trying to comfort and soothe him by reaching out to him. Madhu should feel proud that she is not married to a man who calls himself a beast instead the man standing infront of her is the most senstive person that she would ever come across who values her happiness and does not want to see her in pain or emotionally broken.


I really felt terrible for RK when he kept going about how many times he had been hurt deeply to his soul by his own loved ones and everytime he was hoping that someone would miraculously show up to play doctor and be there for good to heal all his wounds. At that moment, I felt like reaching out to him and telling him that things will get better as Madhu is there by your side and she is someone who will be selfless and caring enough to keep you from getting wounds and if you do get wounded during the process of knowing her she will be there to heal all of them. The constant hurt and pain inflicted by the ones he trusted the most that included his dad breaking his promise to leave him all by himself and committing suicide, his mom who then became his focal point in life deserting him to be someone else's wife and his lover Diplai whom he trusted enough to assume to be the healer of all of the above wounds gave him the worst wound of all by showing him his place in her life and chose a safe and secure future with Sikki as opposed to standing up for love and being there with a struggling artist like him. Those constant attacks left him feeling increasingly vulnerable and insecure. Hence his admittance today was heartbreaking when he said that to the entire world he is the one and only the superstar RK but atcually he is the one and only perosn who can still survive after being so deeply hurt to his soul and carry on as though nothing ever happened. His pain was clearly etched on his face and he was not trying to hide it from Madhu this time and we could see the reflection of his pain in her eyes when she was reliving his past through his eyes.


It is cleary evident from his past that he had a heart that trusted too much and forgave too easy only to be inflicted with more pain and suffering. Life has taught him tough lessons and the people around him who he thought as loved ones and kept near and dear to him have played a devastatingly bad role of turning him into a ruthless person. RK bared his heart and soul to Madhu today and this should make her realize that he was not this way always but circumstances and people around him have forced him into being the person he is today and she should feel that she has a special place in his life for him to open up about his guarded memories from his past. When she kept insisting him that he is not answering her question he went on to say that he does not want her to become like him who has lost his soul and feel shattered and emotionally broken due to a loved ones betrayal. He saw the shock, pain and embarassment in her eyes when the locket was shown to her and at that time he made up his mind not to reveal her anything that would cause her pain and emotional distress. He goes on to say that he would not wish that for his worst enemy and how could he wish that to her? That was an Aawww moment for me. How sweet of him to think of her and put her feelings above all else. His admission to Madhu about Malik's third attack did surprise her a bit but not a whole lot as I had suspected. Madhu actually was taken back to find out that inspite of three different attacks on his life all he could think was to keep her from the hurt and pain that she might be exposed to when the truth came out. There was pride in her eyes that she was married to a guy like him, respect for what he had done to her by standing up for her, admiration for his ability to find out that she cannot go behind his back. All of the above factors is cumulatively going to make her realize her love for him as she has already started falling for him regardless of his complicated dark persona and hence ultimately we could see love shining in her eyes. It makes perfect sense for the CVs to show her ILU confession to RK in her dream. I am glad that it is only a dream as RK still doesn't look like he is ready to take that leap of faith when it comes to love with Madhu after being burnt so badly by Dips in the name of love.


To me it seemed like RK's response answered several of her burning questions which she wanted to ask him but could not ask. She was only looking for a response to her question about Malik but RK actually gave her more than what she had expected. She has always been open and honest with him. He just feels so attached to her and knows he can always trust her. She has always accepted him for simply being him. In spite of all his flaws, of all his faults, she has stood by him and pulled him out from the jaws of death by giving him blood and praying for his life. She was there for him when he had least expected her to be there for him. RK understood what she was feeling because he had experienced it himself and can put himself in her shoes.


Precap was perfect where both were looking into each other's eyes and tujh mein Rab dikhta hai song was playing in the BG. Perfect song choice for both of them because they both are looking at their true character for what they really are and not what they had assumed of each other (nafrat ke deewane) when they had gotten into this contractual marriage.

Edited by kt25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Haay.. I am new to this seriel. Me friend told me about it a week ago sins then I am wachting episodes like Crazy... i love every bits of it... I love the discussion tread..

About today's rk confession..

For me rk allready is in love with madhu ( he doesnt know ) he allready made her his, the time he let her leave to her parents for 2 days how annoyed he was that he missed her..he knew that he was aware of it, but as the screwed up soul he is he doesnt accept that..

Anyways back to today.. the 3 dokters.. 2 of them where allready known so that wasnt a shock..dokter 3 i saw it coming she would be a ex or something but i didnt think she was such a big part of his life.. that she was the final piece that broke him(i hate that women yeg women without self-respect..) that she made RK.. I think now i understand the resoan why he would flinch when madhu would take his hole name..it reminds him for how he was back then.. Poor soul trully he saw to much at a young age..

Today's episode was for me a outlook for what to come and what madhu will see in him.. the song jused in the precap says how she will love him its the way she know's to love.. she made him her god or he made himself her god without knowing.. he protects her from every evil that comes he is her shield and she will welcome that shield with all the love and protection she has.. Madhu has a hard way to go she will have to be strong for whatever will come but like they say love makes you stronger and her love and his trust will make her stronger..

I dont know how RK will accept her love.. all i know he know's her in and out she is a open book for him.. he accepted her as his.. and made clear he wants her as his wife.. eventhought he doesnt know why..

well that was my bakwas review...

about the promo: it doesnt main she will trully say to him she loves him i mean allot of prom's show what is to come.. So what i think is the promo show that madhu will accept her love .. I dont think he will know soon.. hmm?????????????????


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Posted: 12 years ago
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@KT. I couldn't agree more. Loved your review.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Namzz

@KT. I couldn't agree more. Loved your review.

Thank you! Much appreciated. You can call me priya.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am back again. for an hour 😛 if I can limit myself to that time. Will need to pick up from where I ended last...

Continuing on my line ..
She became in everyway RK's Biwi. She is not the enemy, she is not the friend, she is not the lover, she is just his Biwi, forever to be his...Again that line ...Tu hai sirf meri from the song above...


In a peaceful and blissful state today, I am now thinking of Rishbala's future and their marriage.
Rishabh said, he had invested his head when establishing his relationship with Madhu, when making her his wife. He knew at that time itself, that he cannot allow himself to trust anyone, not even his wife, he was not willing to be cared by her. Of course I read that as a right denied to Madhu, but when Rishabh goes back on his 4th phera promise, at that time itself, I knew that it was not just his ego/revenge that made him deny that, I could see something to do with his family by the end of fourth phera, which led me to feel the man's utter honesty that touches one soul. It actually touched by soul that day...the whole marriage sequence...the pheras, the vidai and his talk with Padmini.

One, I am overwhelmed today, how closely I felt that sequence as holding this kind of hurt for him ...so much that each and every phera means something to him even in that drunk state and yet he has that intelligence and brilliance to paint to everyone what he is silently taking for a vow for and what he actually is vowing at that.

Two, When everyone was saying, to avoid Dips humiliation of the marriage, RK should complete the rest of 3 pheras as well, never was I caring for that. Because people like Dips will find something else to taunt with after 7 pheras are done.

Today, however; I feel that RK should give the rights to Madhu to take care of him. After that revelation, I want it. Why now ? Let me explain his marriage.

1) he has committed to be the husband by taking/making the 4 vows
2) he did not give the same right to Madhu by denying her part of pheras.

Elaborating on the impact of 2 over Madhu
Madhu, because of not taking the vows, she did not honor the mangal sutra, until her MIL showed interest in it, and she was not into commitment as husband's wife, as he turned her into spot etc.
During Bappa track, taking a cue from Studio night...she in all zealous attitude, tried to heal him. Rishabh though minding it and yet not minding it for his own reasons, gets shot in the visarjan for his reasons...he asked Bappa to punish him. It is here that Madhu is overwhelmed of her zealous energy and where it had dragged her into...she did not want to feel responsible for RK's death when the guy was just promising to show her his healed side. Its pain enough...your success not even tasted...it hurts bad. Madhu ne wahaan pe RK se apne Dil ka Rishta jod liya. She committed herself to him a relationship borne out of her heart.
****This RK sees when comes back alive. Things change a bit more for him.

Elaborating the impact of 1 over Madhu.
While she knows that from her side Dil ka rishta is there, she never could know that RK was all committed to her truly as husband. Ofcourse, she misses the Dil there.

Yesterday, Madhu realized the true state of 1 from RK end. He does consider her as his wife.

Today (forget the episode blackholes...though this time, I am not agnonized by time warp and it just seems one beautiful long day) Madhu, should get the reasons why Rishabh Kundra did not allow her the three pheras. Simple. He did not want any deceptions from his sole relationship...Biwi. By his own will, he removed the pain for himself, by removing his right to expectations from her.

This was poignant to me from Rishabh's point when he was getting married, but today when I see those tears in Madhu's eyes, I want Madhu to fight for her rights for the rest of the vows. For her tears, she would want to take care of him in rightful capacity. Waise Madhu asserts herself with her "meri Marzi", so she doesn't actually need those pheras. What she has to understand is that though Rishabh denied the want, he yearns for the same. Rishabh will never allow her officially to take care of him, be his partner in every sense, as that is his defence mechanism, where as he will continue to take care of her. I don't want RK to pity her or see her love and go for the pheras. Just like the pillows removal, even the rest of pheras taking, Madhu should be demanding it from RK, now that he bared his soul to her. Coz its easy for her to fight with him. He always end up giving whatever she asks of him. That's why I don't see it as the pain for her, its time now she honors the marriage like he has been honoring it and all he is waiting for is for her to ask him to give those rights. Trust me...the man is actually waiting for that. I am starting to know this man in and out...

Dil ka rishta from RK end will not happen so soon. Right now he is having Ishq with his wife with the Dimaag ka rishta that he developed with her.

This is the basic difference between them, how they treat their marriage to each other.

And strangely...though I feel as if Madhu's way of honoring the marriage (through her Dil) is appealing, yet I feel that RK's way of honoring the marriage (through Dimaag) is far more easier. There are no complications in the way he thinks and I am definitely not in favour of muddled relationship due to heart's interference when it comes to conclusion on principled behaviour and decorum in marriage.
No wonder, I understand RK that clearly. No wonder, I get irritated at Madhu and yet how boring it is to be RK without Madhu to balance out.
LEKIN...Each time, Madhu has looked at him in softness, God! I have melted more than RK. And I know RK will never be able to just think with his head when he sees that softness in her eyes. He will be forced to go mince his words and change his decisions.

BTW ...Marriage and Love are not the same even as they aid each other.


And this is what I had wrote about RK-MB marriage earlier over the forum...

RK-MB marriage and vows that he took in that 4-phera marriage.


First one ..the actual one Pandit tells him ...I will forever support you. And he twists it and says in his mind, I promise to isolate you from all the people who will be supporting you.


Second one ...The actual one being ...I will never break your trust. And he twists it and says in his mind, I assure you that I will make everyday of your life a hell.


Third one - actual being ...I promise to be with you in good and bad times. And he twists to mean, cannot know about good times, I promise to fill up your life with unhappiness.


Fourth one - actual being - I promise to treat your parents with respect like mine. And he looks at Bittuji and has the fourth phera cancelled (the actual reason being he doesn't respect his living parents or may be parents is a closed chapter for him).


So in reality, everyone may have assumed he took the first three vows at real. Only him and audience know what he was promising in the first three.


Now at real , he has been following 7 vows . the first three real ones and twisted ones and the fourth one, since he cancelled it, he takes liberty to humiliate them albeit calls them Sasurji and Saasumaa, in much expressive manner than of addressing his living family.


Isn't this man really complex, interesting and entertaining. We can never know what he can do. But one thing is good about him. When he twists, he keeps loyal to only himself being supportive to her and to be trustworthy to her and not promising too many bad things to her in a curseful manner. He just vows that much which MB is capable of dealing with.


Must say interesting plot and character sketch there from the writers.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Siri22

OK rewatched the epi and a small take ..


BIG time disappointed in mads expressions esp when she heard Malik trying to kill Hotty a thrid time. No shock? Nothing..
She just looked as if ... I don't know how to put it nicely.
I thought that would be the turning point when she comes to know of the thrid attempt. I mean it's disgusting someone comes to Puja with evil intentions in their mind.
And Mads still was demanding "Mere sawal ka jawab do" 😕

Like really Mads?

Also disappointed that cv's didn't show much about Dips and RK. I for one would have loved to see( only if Hotty is not touchy touchy with the witch) how hard RK had fallen for Dips and how dips dumped him.

Then I would be able to relate better to his pain and why he feels disgusted with Dips.

I just feel RK's revealing of past has been rushed.


Siri,

@bold
Today, it was not the time to pick Shamsher over RK when seen from Madhu or anyone's point of view. The day, the time, the attention, the emotional response everything belonged to RK. So how can Madhu get disgusted at Shamsher and get frozen when RK was baring his soul. She needed to pay attention to the man in front of her and not an absent man whom she can think of at a later time. It is grossly disrespecting of anyone to undermine the emotions felt by a communicating party right in front of you. After the active part is paid attention, the passive part can be thought of. When RK was telling about 3rd attack...MB may have registered it, but just the thinking that this man knew and was directing something else over the passive part of the story is also overwhelming and rightfully MB had to respect that information first. Its called sensitivity to detail.


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