META Pyromaniac Padmini v Roaring Radha!! - Page 7

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ truekash LOL i looked but could not find a post relevant to the discussion thread. We would love to hear your opinion on the topic under discussion. For your hilarious banter on unrelated topics perhaps we could visit a thread of your making, or another suitable one? LOL

No offense. This is not bashing. I don't mean to be rude.
LOL, etc etc.

A half-hearted disclaimer is nobody's friend.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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TM who said we must talk about the topic 😆 Yahan bohut saare topics hai where people spam... Don't worry this is called MEIEJ forum... You are new but you will come to know about this soon 😉 And you were the one who said we can talk about anything but it shouldn't be bashing 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: xodramalover


Yes, I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. Padmini believes relationships are sacred and don't break so easily


From my point of view that dialogue from Padmini on that D-Day was not worth registering and analysing. Because as we know those days, the show's agenda was to drive every point towards the climax - the breakpoint of Malik-Chaudhry family. The HURT, the LOSS was to be shown at maximum, so creating angst of broken engagement, as otherwise there was not much love or passion in MB-Mukund relationshop and already viewers were waiting for the engagement to break. One had to show some pain. So using Padmini's character there, and also they wanted Trishna to turn negative, so have her negated at every step, That day what Trishna said actually was making sense, but writers had to make something out of it, so make the mother go against her.

So truly speaking, for me it is filler situation in the plot and filler dialogue in the screenplay.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aur haan it's Coeur not couer 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Coeur2PsychoFMS

Aur haan it's Coeur not couer 😆


Heart of a psycho na 😉 and we r discussing about guys and RK is a guy aswell 😛 And since this thread is about his mother then we r using reverse psychology... going from RK to his mom 😉 btw this is madhubala forum and expect alot of reverse psychology here 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shiv_parvati

Pls pardon me for my writing skills. I am only good at crunching numbers ( that's my profession ).


I like Radhaji a lot . I am not sure why. But one thing I am glad , she is nice to Madhu. But her equation with RK, I feel its till too early to judge her yet.. We don't know the reason why she married Kukuji and why her husband committed suicide.

Now coming to Padminiji , I have a question. I clearly remembered in one the episodes, she was explaining to Trishna and Madhu that marriage is not a game you play with it.

Ok now lets say down the road , malik for some reason manage to get the 40 lakhs and repay RK. Would Padmini want Madhu to end the marriage and leave RK. ( which I assume it will not happen)

She ran away from her devil husband but still wears the mangalsutra.. She clearly believes in sancity of marriage.

I wonder what would she have to say at Madhu at that point.

I hope it makes sense😆




Certainly it does. And you will find the more you out down your thoughts, the easier they will become to express. it is true, as as I speak from experience!

Now to your post. radhaji did speak of her reason for getting married, which both shridevi and I have identified as fear. So have a couple of other posters. She herself acknowledges this to Madhu whenthey discuss Rishab.

re Padmini's marriage, please look at shridevi's mine and peaches' ideas on this. Peaches believes it is a sacred bond to her. SD and I believe that it is a security net in a society that does not like single women, and that she herself has not been honest about her reasons for continuing her disguise as a married woman.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam


From my point of view that dialogue from Padmini on that D-Day was not worth registering and analysing. Because as we know those days, the show's agenda was to drive every point towards the climax - the breakpoint of Malik-Chaudhry family. The HURT, the LOSS was to be shown at maximum, so creating angst of broken engagement, as otherwise there was not much love or passion in MB-Mukund relationshop and already viewers were waiting for the engagement to break. One had to show some pain. So using Padmini's character there, and also they wanted Trishna to turn negative, so have her negated at every step, That day what Trishna said actually was making sense, but writers had to make something out of it, so make the mother go against her.

So truly speaking, for me it is filler situation in the plot and filler dialogue in the screenplay.


Well spotted. Because the other option makes Padmini a much weaker, duller and stick in the mud character than her other actions have shown. I believe the writers will retcon this outburst once a suitable opportunity presents itself, as otherwise they've written themselves into a character hole. Remeber Padmini is also the woman who was willing to take her daughter home immediately after her very public wedding.

SD, i do believe you are VERY right on this.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: TrueKash


Heart of a psycho na 😉 and we r discussing about guys and RK is a guy aswell 😛 And since this thread is about his mother then we r using reverse psychology... going from RK to his mom 😉 btw this is madhubala forum and expect alot of reverse psychology here 😉

🤣 haad hai... i am making a topic tomorrow... baajane ki mood mein hoon... and yes its heart of a psycho...
Aur haan bhaag yahan se nahin toh topic maker bura maan jaayegi... aur mujhe bhi neend aayi hai... wanna sleep...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam


You absolutely are! I would say , however, as to what is it that Padmini considers sacred about marriage? Surely she doesn't believe in tha multi-birth package deal because, if so, then god help her! Has she actually thought about what aspect of this oh so scared relationship she wants to keep safe?

So far, i do not see even one argument that she makes to justify her remaining a suhagan beyond the one advanced by shridevi and myself. She is only after the social moral security offered to a married woman in regressive and paternalistic society. People like to call it 'traditional' as a sort of euphemistic sop, but I like calling a spade a spade.

😊. English is not my first language and I find it difficult to express what I really what to say...

Pads comes from a very different background than me atleast. From a background where having a girl child is seen as a sin. She isnt been protrayed as an educated woman. She silently bears the illtreatment of her husband. It doesnt cross her mind that she should protest against it. Probably people around her, from her childhood onwards, she has been taught that once you are married you belong to your husband and his family.. etc... etc... I dont think the people around that place have even heard the word divorce! Once you are married, you are. It doesnt matter if you get anything from the marraige, but once you enter you are in.. I have seen couples (not many, but few atleast; they are even educated!) who put up with this kind of marriages for the sake of their children. Unlike Pads case they put up with things bcos of 'society' (Though I dont know why you have to please society when you yourself are not happy)... I think in Pads she doesnt know the concept of divorce. She believes in the same things that millions of Indian women around the global who do Kadvachawt (is that how it is spelled?) believes.. She might in all probability be still keeping kadvachawt for her husband- because that was what she was taught! It was only because her child's existence was in question that she thought of fleeing from her husband. Had that not been the case, she would still be suffering whatever hardship the mother and son subjects her to..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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😊. English is not my first language and I find it difficult to express what I really what to say...

Pads comes from a very different background than me atleast. From a background where having a girl child is seen as a sin. She isnt been protrayed as an educated woman. She silently bears the illtreatment of her husband. It doesnt cross her mind that she should protest against it. Probably people around her, from her childhood onwards, she has been taught that once you are married you belong to your husband and his family.. etc... etc... I dont think the people around that place have even heard the word divorce! Once you are married, you are. It doesnt matter if you get anything from the marraige, but once you enter you are in.. I have seen couples (not many, but few atleast; they are even educated!) who put up with this kind of marriages for the sake of their children. Unlike Pads case they put up with things bcos of 'society' (Though I dont know why you have to please society when you yourself are not happy)... I think in Pads she doesnt know the concept of divorce. She believes in the same things that millions of Indian women around the global who do Kadvachawt (is that how it is spelled?) believes.. She might in all probability be still keeping kadvachawt for her husband- because that was what she was taught! It was only because her child's existence was in question that she thought of fleeing from her husband. Had that not been the case, she would still be suffering whatever hardship the mother and son subjects her to.."




Don't worry, I can follow you perfectly. It is only when you have a whole lot of blinking icons all over a post that I simply cannot focus enough to read the often extraneous text.


Education, especially the way it is in india, where really there is no emphasis on critical thinking at all, but rather parroting THAT WHICH IS would not help in Padmini's case. It would not mahe her revise her dogmas. So her being educated or not, is as you point out giving the example of the educated women who stay in grossly abusive marriages, moot.

Perhaps the only benefit such an education, and i use the term v loosely, can give is to make her capable of earning a wage. Which, most fortunately, she is able to do in an industry that actually does not require such an education.


But she has spent 21 years without her husband. Let us believe that she got married at 18, stayed with her husband for two years... Is she not able to actively unlearn these regressive beliefs in a timeperiod that is actually longer than the one in which she formed them?

If she makes absolutely no mental progress in her attitude to marriage, is not able to convert experiential learning to belief systems, then she is really not a free human at all.

Only religion enforces beliefs and ideals no longer suited to modern society on people, and that is why some very clever people have called organised religion the most dangerous thing that exists on earth.


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