An idiosyncratic analysis of a few epi.s

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi all. A broken modem, a crisis in a friend's personal life... a variety of reasons meant that i could not write my reactions for three consecutive episodes... but then can i ever rest in peace?... will probably go on babbling even after i'm dead... so here i am to do what needs to be done. 😊

Well on tuesday Abhimanyu packs his bags and is ready to leave... there was a montage of all Abhimanyu scenes and i really liked that... i have said elsewhere that in the representation of Abhimanyu there has been a shift from the non intense to the intense.... and those who have thought that this shift is a figment of my imagination, please watch the montage where it is very visible... I miss the old Abhimanyu... i think non intense is more difficult to do well, though frequently intensity is considered good acting... while i always fall for intense (samay being proof of this), i also feel that non intense endures, its more likeable. After all, Darcy and Heathcliff must have had days when they came down and asked 'So whats for breakfast today?' 😃

Then he overhears what the cadets have done... well, by itself, the 'gift of the magi' idea, i.e. selling something closest to your heart, is not a bad one... but when it becomes 'maine apni bhains ko bech diya' and 'i broke my piggy bank', it becomes stupid instead of touching... within the melodramatic framework, it had the potential to be much better... it did not work for me emotionally because a) storywise, none of the cadets felt this remorse on his or her own, b) no cadet acted so well that this lack of the storyline could be forgotten and finally c) the dialogues ruined whatever remaining chance one had of emotionally connecting with the cadets... i mean piggy bank?... seriously?... couldnt they have shown instead that she sold something that Naveen gave her.... at least would have made it poignant.

During this scene, Gaurav stood outside... inscrutable, evaluating, considering various things...but finally Abhimanyu walks into that room... why does he do so?... i have discovered in the course of writing this analysis that my personal opinion is that he does this because there is nothing else that Abhimanyu can do... regular readers, this statement is open for debate 😊... i have maintained that the breaking of his instruments was a 'things can never be the same again' kind of offence and i still stand by that... after that Abhimanyu had two courses of action available to him: one, he could keep his sense of self intact and walk out of this academy... he does not need this bunch of people in his life and he could go back to his intelligence unit and to the way his life used to be... and this is what, in real life, someone with Abhimanyu's heritage and in Abhimanyu's circumstances would have done.... but then there is also the ideal... idealist that i am 😊, i would also like to believe that Abhimanyu cannot go on saying 'no' when pleaded to (though here the pleading, via the remorse, was done so badly as to be almost non existent)... i would argue that the conventions of Abhimanyu's very ceremonious heritage would also mean that it would not be unnatural for him to do something personally distasteful or unappealing just because he had to. There is a sense of 'i do not want to do this but i have to, so i shall go through the motions with as much grace and dignity as i can' that one got in the scene when he congratulated Alekh.

If he left, the sense of having left something incomplete and unfinished might have come back to haunt him. And Abhimanyu is not someone who can live things unfinished, half done. Finally, i am glad he walked into that room because sometimes being grown up is about still going on when your deepest feelings have been hurt and people have been ruthlessly blind. Not going away, staying back and living among these very people and finishing his assignment requires courage... and i am cheering Abhimanyu on. Yes, i do remember that he is fictional! 😊

So Abhimanyu is staying and i still have to watch lrl... suddenly doubtful if this is a good thing 😉 😆

I do not think that Abhimanyu will be overtly affectionate to these cadets now... though you never know... not just because this is subject to the vagaries and whims of writers, but also because i feel that it would be difficult for Abhimanyu to stay entirely detached... (I seem to be recasting Abhimanyu as myself, not intentional 😊)... its just that his capability for deep emotional feeling has always been hinted at... his senstivity may ensure that he is unable to stay angry or hurt for long... but Abhimanyu, do not get too attached... better people await you elsewhere!! 😆

Cannot talk at length about Gaurav's acting... i saw it four days ago and now cant download the video... but i remember the inscrutability of the expression clearly and i remember liking it then... i also remember the absence of a smile very clearly... finally, i still find the movement of the body while playing the guitar jarring... have thought so both times when Gaurav has done it.

On Wednesday, his only scene was the one where he informs the cadets about the drill... and i was on the phone then... but looking at the way scenes of ordering people about were handled in the 'rebellion', i'm sure that ordering must have come naturally to him. 😊

On Thursday, the only Gaurav scene i saw was the one where he crosses Capt Rajveer on his way to the drill... the two stop, stare at each other and then at the empty space on the wall (which was less satiny than last time, hooray!)... and then go their separate ways. One small question to the writer: Abhimanyu understands why Capt Rajveer may not have been wrong in pulling that trigger on his best friend... he has the maturity to see things from Capt Rajveer's point of view in a sitaution where 99% of humanity would not have understood another's situation or point of view... then that maturity, that sensitivity disappears overnight?... he loses the ability to see things from another's perspective two days after he has demonstrated it to Naina, and without any reason at all?

I can understand that the script needed conflict... but before the conflict, something could have happened that shattered Abhimanyu's sense of self, made him vulnerable to insecurity and therefore unable to see another's point of view?... remember the sequence of events: Capt Rajveer goes off after the red box, Abhimanyu is at the academy, he has that long monolgue about a soldier's duty that makes Naina rethink her position vis-a-vis Capt Rajveer... and then when Capt Rajveer is back, Abhimanyu is suddenly insecure and goes off on a 'i've always been second best' trip... the first time it was introduced was in Naveen's voice over, then it was in the scene where the cadets ignored him... and then it took off in the scene where there is a flashback of a conversation with Naveen... once established, it was ok... but was established not on a flimsy reason but on no reason at all.

The reason i am saying all of this today is that it feels very weird to have a scene where the two friends are caught up in their own defences and insecurities and will not talk to one another... and think that this could have been about the mercy killing... it would have been so much more powerful then...Lesson no one of television writing: if you have such a juciy issue as killing of one friend by the second, and a third who has come to find the killer, you do not sort it all out in two episodes...you use it for every kind of emotion, to explore every possibility... to let it be wasted like this is criminal.

Of course, now they cannot have Abhimanyu suddenly seeing Capt Rajveer's point of view... it would be unfair, especially since they were both wrong... and they cannot now give your potential hero a non heroic moment... so his ability to see another's point of view has to stay missing. How is this show going to get out of the corner that it has painted itself into?

Anyway, Gaurav did this scene competently... no overacting, no attempt to chart every emotion that Abhimanyu must be feeling. Way to go... he makes the absolutely nonsensical look believable.... which i realised when i saw the cadet remorse scene... he would have made that remorse believable if he'd been playing a cadet.

Thats about it for today. The weather outside is brilliant... the 'just about to rain but never does' kind... and my cup of tea beckons. Hopefully the reactions will be more regular next week.

Adios, amigos!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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one word "AWESOME" 👏

and even i agree with u shwetal,abhi's character is very roughly sketched.....sometimes it contradicts as the point u have mentioned abt him being supportive of raj in the shooting episode.

But i think the Dj's wanted to add some spice(kuch zyada hi pada" 😆 ).....they are just committing a lot of blunders these days.

and as for the weather, i had my cup of coffee seeing the beautiful rain(getting wet as well) 😉 😃
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi Shwetal,
I think this is the first time I've read your idiosyncratic analysis... I don't know why I never read it... maybe because it was too long... but after reading today... be assured ... I will never miss it again.

I really liked the way you analysed Abhimanyu's character. Even if I disagree to a little point... like... the one about the change of point of views... I still liked the way you reasoned with it...
you are a polished writer my friend.
Keep it up and I'll be here... again when you write 😉


luv
kanak
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hmmm whynotty - not much of abhi this week though i guess more will be shown during raj's exit. i think this is the point where the character abhimanyu undergoes a change. from the cheerful guy to a mature macho man. i understand the complexity of his character. dj's have added layers and layers to it. but u see even after so much revolt and forgiveness the differences between the two friends remain. why so? just sort it out u guys- i hate to see the chemistry ruined. and the reasons of course r outright stupid. and i guess abhi will be more formal with the cadets and now they will think twice before crossing his path. from what i make of abhi's character he is a real softie at heart and genuinely felt appreciated that the cadets have done so many sacrifices for getting back his musical instruments - of course isme bhi raj ka haath hain - had he not told then they would still be rude to him. but then i agree wid u on the fact that selling buffaloes to buy a drum set was stupid. as for the piggy bank - i nearly fell of my chair laughing - honestly the dj's are hellbent on making naina's character look childish and even worse as her love track proceeds. for a 22 /23 year old girl - piggy banks? aw crap. whereas rest of the cadets r maturing here is one who is breaking piggy banks and acting silly and completely infatuated like a 16 yr old. when will they change her character to a mature and sensible one god knows - i guess it is upto abhi to make her realise that now that raj is leaving (though i am sad since i am an rn jodi fan - the teacher student relationship was interesting and very well explored)
as for abhi-raj the sooner they make up the better. i really miss their chemistry. and i hope abhi changes for the better though i already forsee it - he has suddenly changed to a serious man with a lot of responsibilites strict with the cadets too. let us see how he manages his professional life with his personal life and the kind of relationship he will have with the cadets in the future.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: friskysam

one word "AWESOME" 👏

and even i agree with u shwetal,abhi's character is very roughly sketched.....sometimes it contradicts as the point u have mentioned abt him being supportive of raj in the shooting episode.

But i think the Dj's wanted to add some spice(kuch zyada hi pada" 😆 ).....they are just committing a lot of blunders these days.

and as for the weather, i had my cup of coffee seeing the beautiful rain(getting wet as well) 😉 😃

Two words: Thank you... for writing every single day without fail 😃

At the risk of sounding partial, i just want to say that this half sketched character still makes sense becuase of the way Gaurav is playing him... if any other, less talented actor had been doing this, by now Abhimanyu would have been in ruins.

I agree that the conflict was brought to increase spice... and i dont mind conflict per se... but they had better reasons than the stupid ones they are offering right now.

I'm so jealous... love getting wet in the rain.... i want to get wet in the rain.... but unfortunately circumstances prevent such possibilites. And a coffee lover is always welcome... i have not figured out in life, so far, which i like better from tea and coffee! 😃

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: tere_bin

Hi Shwetal,
I think this is the first time I've read your idiosyncratic analysis... I don't know why I never read it... maybe because it was too long... but after reading today... be assured ... I will never miss it again.

I really liked the way you analysed Abhimanyu's character. Even if I disagree to a little point... like... the one about the change of point of views... I still liked the way you reasoned with it...
you are a polished writer my friend.
Keep it up and I'll be here... again when you write 😉

luv
kanak

Too long??... kahaan??... itna kum toh bolti hoon main 😆 😆

On a serious note, thank you so much... its great to know that you liked it 😃

And if you disagree, please feel free to explain your own point of view at length... i think healthy disagreement is essential to good friendship. Debate is always to be encouraged... and i'm sure we are both mature enough to go on debating without getting hostile or letting it affect our personal interaction. 😊

Finally, i too like Ek Chabbi hai pados mein a lot ... think its perhaps the best show on Indian television today. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: anujkpjk

hmmm whynotty - not much of abhi this week though i guess more will be shown during raj's exit. i think this is the point where the character abhimanyu undergoes a change. from the cheerful guy to a mature macho man. i understand the complexity of his character. dj's have added layers and layers to it. but u see even after so much revolt and forgiveness the differences between the two friends remain. why so? just sort it out u guys- i hate to see the chemistry ruined. and the reasons of course r outright stupid. and i guess abhi will be more formal with the cadets and now they will think twice before crossing his path. from what i make of abhi's character he is a real softie at heart and genuinely felt appreciated that the cadets have done so many sacrifices for getting back his musical instruments - of course isme bhi raj ka haath hain - had he not told then they would still be rude to him. but then i agree wid u on the fact that selling buffaloes to buy a drum set was stupid. as for the piggy bank - i nearly fell of my chair laughing - honestly the dj's are hellbent on making naina's character look childish and even worse as her love track proceeds. for a 22 /23 year old girl - piggy banks? aw crap. whereas rest of the cadets r maturing here is one who is breaking piggy banks and acting silly and completely infatuated like a 16 yr old. when will they change her character to a mature and sensible one god knows - i guess it is upto abhi to make her realise that now that raj is leaving (though i am sad since i am an rn jodi fan - the teacher student relationship was interesting and very well explored)
as for abhi-raj the sooner they make up the better. i really miss their chemistry. and i hope abhi changes for the better though i already forsee it - he has suddenly changed to a serious man with a lot of responsibilites strict with the cadets too. let us see how he manages his professional life with his personal life and the kind of relationship he will have with the cadets in the future.

They will not sort it out... they're men! 😆 😆

Ok, will stop maaroing all these sexist wisecracks... seriously speaking, the chemistry is still there... its a crackling, conflict wala chemistry now... under different circumstances, this face off could have been so filmy and so much fun, like Dalip Kumar - Amitabh or Amitabh - Vinod Khanna... maqgar yeh ho na saka...

I agree that Abhi may be more formal with the cadets now... and that they too will think twice before crossing his path. And completely agree with what you are saying about Naina... her character has been undermined a lot... i do not think Abhi will make her realise anything... i have no idea what will happen to her since her existence in the show is so linked to Rajeev's...

As for the future, do you know that in the fan club, all the fans have only been talking about possible love stories for Abhimanyu?!... We have picked various possible heroines, written different stories... now the show only has to implement our gyaan 😆 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Too long??... kahaan??... itna kum toh bolti hoon main 😆 😆

On a serious note, thank you so much... its great to know that you liked it 😃

And if you disagree, please feel free to explain your own point of view at length... i think healthy disagreement is essential to good friendship. Debate is always to be encouraged... and i'm sure we are both mature enough to go on debating without getting hostile or letting it affect our personal interaction. 😊

Finally, i too like Ek Chabbi hai pados mein a lot ... think its perhaps the best show on Indian television today. 😊


oh you too like that show?
wow... hamare khayalat sach much bahut milte hai 😉😉😉 ...
I have been doing the updates for that show from the second episode onwards... pehla miss kar diya tha 😭😭...
but I love the show so much....😛😛😛

btw... about my disagreement... wo phir kabhi batungi... maybe next week.... because I want to be sure what I'll say 😉😉

luv
kanak
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: tere_bin

oh you too like that show?
wow... hamare khayalat sach much bahut milte hai 😉😉😉 ...
I have been doing the updates for that show from the second episode onwards... pehla miss kar diya tha 😭😭...
but I love the show so much....😛😛😛

btw... about my disagreement... wo phir kabhi batungi... maybe next week.... because I want to be sure what I'll say 😉😉

luv
kanak

Hey Kanak, haven't you heard the adage 'great minds think alike'?! 😆 😆

I too love the show a lot... especially the Sandeep Urmi love story.

And you write whenver you feel like... no problem. 😃

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