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Posted: 18 years ago
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i am not saying raj should have revealed everything but he could have come up wid some excuse - he always does especially when maj nair is around. standing quiet is not his style. somehow the whole scene did not seem logical at all. something went wrong somewhere yesterday. i too was surprised by raj's silence. and that punishment of maj nair was too silly and the look of disbelief was written all over abhi and raj's face. i think maj. nair is trying to create a rift between raj and abhi though it won't work.
but phir bhi agar raj woh meeting bahar rakhta toh itni saari gadbad nahin hoti.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Raj was quiet becoz of Abhi's behaviour....he was shocked at the way Abhi was talking to him........and Raj has never made excuses...he always turns things around...yesterday there was no scope for that.....

And abhi is never that strict with the cadets...i mean he helped Alekh..then he should have allowed Nair to best Alekh more and should have allowed the cadets to stay hungry during that shooting drill...but he helped them....so why this sudden rush of discipline and permission all of a sudden...and sense of responsibility....

Dont tell me that he is only interested in winning the cdaets and that why he is being kind to them and helping them but has nothing to get from Raj and so suddenly remembers his responsibility in his case

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Here I agree to some and disagree to some. Rules are imp and must be followed.They create an order, synchronise and harmony. Whether school. College or office there are rules & systems forth for a purpose to have an order, systematisation, avoid disrupt, and for common well-being and are followed by all levels of management.There are strict disciplinary actions taken in case of violations. ( We have taken that-will vouch for it)

Now coming to nice..well everyone is expected to be nice but sometimes we are not and thats normal...besides we are extra nice😳 towards the people we are fond of and may be little too rude😉 to those we dislike.......but thats again normal--right 😃.... ..................but being mindlessly rude is ...only worth ignoring and at times deploring😊.

Agree with the Cadet Ghai point you mentioned..What I found appalling were the words used by Cadet Ghai " mazaa chakhate hai" it reminded me of street language used by ruffians than an under-trainee officer!!! How can you show a lady officer to be reacting in such a way? Besides its too crude reaction….🤢

Coming to the contention I think it was between an authority and an officer. Abhi as an officer demands an explanation and deserves one.Abhi does tell Rajveer that he is there as a VP and hints not to mix the two. I wonder why didn't Rajveer put forth any reason/explanation for the meeting and end the issue🤔

I think Abhi sensed that Nair is trapping him. And the frustration at seeing Nair there indicates that. He knew now it would be tough to save Rajveer.Abhi didn't want Nair there and wished the matter ended before. But Nair it seems has pitted the two friends against each other.

Lastly Abhi does not have inferiority complex.. this is shown when he tells Naina you dont have to be 2nd Best.. I want you to be the best..it reflects he knows what he is. later he wants Ali to be more strength....Abhi is under inner turmoil becoz he lost two things precious to him--music and non-violence. He seeks acceptance from cadets becoz his father didnt feel proud of him.

"andand" ...I liked your post and views very balanced and nicely presented.

Edited by spian - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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abhi is not interested in winning the cadets. if he was he would have helped raj. being a newly appointed vp he has been ordered by mj. nair for an inquiry. and he was just carrying it out. u go ahead with u'r meetings raj - just one permission is all u need - but u didn't and now u r in trouble and if i do not take any action i too will be in trouble was the look that was portrayed on abhi's face. at that particular moment it was not two friends but a senior reprimanding a junior. that's all. and anyway abhi is helpless just the way raj was in case of naveen. and i too cannot help wondering why raj remained silent abt the whole thing. tha's not his style. he could have said something in his own defence. jesus the dj's do not have to make him suffer like this.

and i assure u all that abhi would never have sent raj to solitary confinement - he is not that ruthless. he would just have taken a mild actions as a vp and let the matter go had not major interfered and spoilt it.
and when raj comes out of solitary confinement i am sure he will not appreciate the rebellion of the cadets - they r loyal to him but i will still say that they have rebelled in a wrong manner. though i am happy to see that naina, ali and alekh r not a part of it anymore. they focussed on abhi, raj , naina and alekh after raj was punished. and each one was thinking - what can be done next. naina worried abt raj. alekh wondering whether abhi did the rite thing, abhi's helplessness and raj's suffering. a good scene with a voiceover telling us abt their internal struggles. it happens to everyone i guess.

Edited by anujkpjk - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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anuj....among ur all posts here.. ...i hv a slight disagreement only with ur first line in above post.

abhi is certainly interested in winning the cadets..but not at the cost of his duties & responsibilities. abhi bears a very respecting attitude towards the system & responsibilities. he din't want to join army .but he did cuz he couldn't oppose his father. it was his responsibility as a son to do what his father expects..irrespective of what he wants. he was determined to get raj punished through system after coming across the fact that raj shot navin. it again shown his trust & respect towards system & rules. he did not let his wishes undermine the responsibilities as a son and as a friend. so..this is the same thing which he did here.
secondly...when i say that he wants to win cadets..i must state that he never misused his authority neither his overlooked his responsibility to get their appreciation. he helped alekh (he didn't protest the punishment that was given to alekh ..but he was against the brutal way of punishment.) & saved cadets from starvation coz those punishments were imposed by mj. nair..with regard to his personal differences with cadets ..not for their mistakes or breaking the laws.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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yes u r rite. i mentioned in one of my old posts that abhi never wanted to join kma but that royal streak in him finally won out. and he is a stickler for rules. and yes he wants the cadets but not by shirking his duties. - my mistake i should have put that point in the first line.
he has helped the cadets by giving them good food, sleep and leisure time. in the real life too the cadets or officers comforts r taken care of. though i did notice insecurities surfacing when the cadets refused to spend some time with him in yesterday's epi. but he is a guy wid a good heart and a strict disciplinarian and if raj is remembered for his inspiration abhi will be remembered for his disciplined way of life.
Edited by anujkpjk - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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If we are talking abt discipline...why the hell does he have long hair????

Is it not breach of discipline???? esp. in the aemy.....

His reason for joining the army is wrong???? i dont think he will ever be ready to defend his country at the border......i dont know how in the world he become a captain if his first shot was during the appraisal...and i dont know why the DJ's have brought this character......

Its spoiling the flavour of the show

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiran_sherry

very true i totally agree with my fellow members that he has to took the permission fro VP ABHi that he is doing a secret meeting and "please let me go afterall this issue has no secrecy this issue is not confidential and since u r feeling insecure of me and want to see my cadets to ur side and Nair is also supporting u and Naveen's case is no more confidential" ABhi sir have to be part of the investigation and since not taken permission and seeing cadets presence it was Captain Rajveer's fault to keep quiet it was better open the matter so that the whole world know what he is doing about naveen ... cool

Wasey now i really wish Naina to be with Abhi their couple seems to be made in heaven bec Abhi has atleast been successful in wining Naina & alekh rather than other Cadets 👏 😉

i dont understand y naina is being dragged into this for no reason at all shes thankful to abhi for helping her so she cant b mean to him... if she goes against him or ignores him then everyone says shes selfish, uses everyone n forgets them... if shes nice to him then everyone says shes as bad as him n they deserve each othr.. just coz she went n gifted him a book doesnt mean theyr a mtch made in heaven or she has special feelings for him.... she can b nice to raj by not being mean to abhi also.... she doesnt need to go against abhi to show that she loves n cares for raj

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Souma.N

If we are talking abt discipline...why the hell does he have long hair????

Is it not breach of discipline???? esp. in the aemy.....

His reason for joining the army is wrong???? i dont think he will ever be ready to defend his country at the border......i dont know how in the world he become a captain if his first shot was during the appraisal...and i dont know why the DJ's have brought this character......

Its spoiling the flavour of the show

Exactly same my point which i said in my earlier posts ... if he has no infority complex and follow discipline than first show then if he is nice and helpless in Captain Rajveer case than why he talked about leaving of Captain Rajveer if abhi wins (please after this don't mingle Rajeev with the Rajveer character that rajeev wants to leave thats why he said that here there is common criteria that if any charcter has become disgusted people start blamming Rajeev's leaving as the reason for poor story track or disgusting character or not forming of their fav RN jodi )...this shows his inner complexes and his inner disturbed violence nature that when u don't get ur desired attention be violent to achieve ur target as he did to pooja by hitting her in football match

Edited by kiran_sherry - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiran_sherry

Exactly same my point which i said in my earlier posts ... if he has no infority complex and follow discipline than first show then if he is nice and helpless in Captain Rajveer case than why he talked about leaving of Captain Rajveer if abhi wins (please after this don't mingle Rajeev with the Rajveer character that rajeev wants to leave thats why he said that 😡 here there is common criteria that if any charcter has become disgusted people start blamming Rajeev's leaving as the reason for poor story track or disgusting character or not forming of their fav RN jodi 😡 🤢 )...this shows his inner complexes and his inner disturbed violence nature that when u don't get ur desired attention be violent to achieve ur target as he did to pooja by hitting her in football match

👏agree with u completely

and rajeev in no way is responsible for ruining any character...

Edited by ashi_kapoor - 18 years ago

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