An idiosyncratic analysis of 17/7

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi all. Here is my vishesh tippani for today. Long day, me tired and yet to make and have dinner, so have just done a quick job and left more detailed comments for others to contribute.

The serial opened with Abhimanyu being handed over a family heirloom, a gun... good scene handled well... again, a lot more was conveyed and suggested over and above the dialogues.... the things that we have to come to associate with the character of Abhimanyu... the duality of him, the constant struggle within him and yet the smile.... the 'yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hai' attitide that he has.... i dont want to write the same things everyday so all i'll say is that in so many conscious and unconscious ways and gestures Gaurav has become Abhimanyu, just as he had become Samay once.... it shows in the face, in the eye, in the hand movement, in the frame.... after a point, you stop analysing separate gestures and explaining what they suggest because they work together, they work as a whole and derive meaning in and from each other.... what i mean is this... in this scene, be it the slight smirk, the slight sigh, the frame of the body.... all of them conveyed Abhimanyu at this moment.... the weariness, the struggle, the determination to fight nevertheless and also a detachment.... i cant isolate individual moments in this scene because for me it worked as a whole, it worked because i saw Abhimanyu in every shot, every frame.

But the sad part of being able to relate to Abhimanyu is that it breaks my heart that all this angst is wasted over such childish issues.... the kids refuse to go out with him and he is hurt.... Gaurav did the scene competently enough but it was such a stupid thing to show.... the show needs to make up its mind whether it is the Wonder Years (ie school show) or the OC (ie drama) .... you have nuanced characters.... most of them with multiple layers and almost all of them distinct and full of possibility.... and then they are put in ridiculous situations which are not worth the characteristics that they have been given.... you take characters from good drama and put them in a school show.... what audience are you targetting then?... Of course one can have brilliant drama in a school set up (Boston Public, Boston Public, Boston Public... among the best television i've seen... ever).... but you cannot have multi-layered characters operating in juvenile situations unless you're making a balck comedy.... feeling isolated, feeling alone and wallowing in self-pity happens to most of us at some point in life but thats a different age and if it happens when one is Abhimanyu's age it usually is driven by different reasons.... but this 'you dont have the time to talk to me and so i'll change the rules' is very silly.

Then the scene with Aalekh.... again good acting in the sense of Abhimanyu being so completely established that every nuance was Abhimanyu and not Gaurav... but the situation was plain pointless again.

So the cadets are being spoilt.... and Abhimanyu has been warned not to insult Capt Rajveer.... and thats where it rests now. I liked the last smile.... i went 'thats how you would react'.... and i was talking to Abhimanyu, not to Gaurav.

Finally, blazer with white shirt works for me! Also, long fingers eh?... never realised that earlier.

Bye. See ya tomo. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thank you so much! 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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i agree wid u on the part that the character of abhi is sometimes very immature. frankly he need not be bothered by the cadets. it is definitely not his style. the dj's r ruining his character to some extent. it took time for raj to win the cadets - abhi has to realise that - yeh bachchon ko choclate dekar khush karne ka style kuch hazam nahi hui. but i must admit the guy is extremely good at facial expressions and his body language is perfect. and without that coat just in formal pants and shirts he looks - awesome - his physique adds to his personality. there is grace in every moment even better than that of raj - raj i find him more as a college goer in his casuals.
anyways good performance by gaurav and i am waiting to see the raj - abhi showdown. though i am sure it was not deliberate on abhi's part. he is bound by this sense of duty - raj has broken rules and he is just reprimanding him. unfortunately for abhi the cadets r there too and they r going to take it the wrong way.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Double posts... big smiles.... Teena tumhe ho kya raha hai?!

Watch the episode quickly... Gaurav was so much at ease that you'll like him for that, i'm sure. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: anujkpjk

i agree wid u on the part that the character of abhi is sometimes very immature. frankly he need not be bothered by the cadets. it is definitely not his style. the dj's r ruining his character to some extent. it took time for raj to win the cadets - abhi has to realise that - yeh bachchon ko choclate dekar khush karne ka style kuch hazam nahi hui. but i must admit the guy is extremely good at facial expressions and his body language is perfect. and without that coat just in formal pants and shirts he looks - awesome - his physique adds to his personality. there is grace in every moment even better than that of raj - raj i find him more as a college goer in his casuals.
anyways good performance by gaurav and i am waiting to see the raj - abhi showdown. though i am sure it was not deliberate on abhi's part. he is bound by this sense of duty - raj has broken rules and he is just reprimanding him. unfortunately for abhi the cadets r there too and they r going to take it the wrong way.

Anuj, its the way he uses his face and body that I have been going on and on about since moment one of watching Gaurav act 😊... welcome to the club!

Yes the Abhi and Capt. Rajveer showdown looks interesting.... It'll be fun to watch the acting.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Double posts... big smiles.... Teena tumhe ho kya raha hai?!

Watch the episode quickly... Gaurav was so much at ease that you'll like him for that, i'm sure. 😊

Yes definitely ... I have to see😊.... I think we might have a disagreement today😛... working towards healthy relationship😉... will comment on the analysis .... if I happen to see the episode before next one is telecast...😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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thanks for this nice analysis.. 😊 but don't understand what is going again on dj's mind. i m mainly perplexed at this point that we all know that after raj's quit ..abhi will be the lead of the show..so instead of glorifying his character..why they are making it horryfying.. 😡

after last week's episode ..i was relaxed to see that abhi has understood his turmoil & he himself is fighting to overcome his complexes. he was on his way of self-reliasation but why suddenly again the same ugly track....
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: candyfloss

sorry cant help posting.whynot ur too good at bringing a negative character in a positive light.but I strongly feel abhi is pathetic by insulting n embarrassing raj front of everyone.
Its surprising whynot you never mentioned abhi won b/c raj let him to win.
my post is not to upset any GC fans so if it does just forget what i wrote.

Hi Candy. 😊

Well first of all i do not really try and present a negative character in a positive light... i honestly do not care if Abhimanyu is negative or positive.... i wouldnt mind it if he were to turn out to be the chief villain as long as the character is interesting.... as long as the situations are mature and not stupid.... as long as the show and the characters work in harmony with each other. In my posts, i analyse Abhimanyu's character and Gaurav's acting.... I think the show did something interesting by showing a character who is fighting his own weaknesses.... but then they ruined it by making the situation so simple .... Abhimanyu is fighting his own demons.... it should not be as silly as 'you wont go on a walk with me and so i'm hurt'.

As for what i mention and what i dont, thats why i call this an idiosyncratic analysis.... idiosyncratic as in whimsical, personal, selective..... it is not an analysis of the entire episode as a whole... i think there are other people on this forum who do an excellent job of analysing the entire episode and the show as a whole..... as for me, i write about whatever i feel like writing about. And since i respect Gaurav's work a lot and watch the show because of him, that shows in my writing as well. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: superbike

Yes definitely ... I have to see😊.... I think we might have a disagreement today😛... working towards healthy relationship😉... will comment on the analysis .... if I happen to see the episode before next one is telecast...😆

Teena i've always believed that voicing disagreement and still staying friends is at the heart of a healthy relationship.... so its high time you and i had a fight 😆 😆.... aa jaana... main gloves pehen ke taiyaar rahungi 😆 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpiongal

thanks for this nice analysis.. 😊 but don't understand what is going again on dj's mind. i m mainly perplexed at this point that we all know that after raj's quit ..abhi will be the lead of the show..so instead of glorifying his character..why they are making it horryfying.. 😡

after last week's episode ..i was relaxed to see that abhi has understood his turmoil & he himself is fighting to overcome his complexes. he was on his way of self-reliasation but why suddenly again the same ugly track....

Hello and you're most welcome. 😊 I completely agree that the current track does not give Abhimanyu any scope at all... see i dont mind if Abhimanyu is negative as long as the situations he is put in are not juvenile.... but what is currently happening in the show is pointless and needless. Also, you are right: what will they do for a hero once Rajeev leaves if they spoil the character of Abhimanyu so much?!

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