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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

yay! me 1st... surprised sophie and BB didnt gt here b4 me..lol..they r mad abt baji 😉😆

baji indeed as u rightly put it, is 1 very impt character..a mre real character than naku...i felt naku seemed 2 perfect 2 b true while baji was sum1 we all could connect 2 on one level or another...becos jus like al of us he had his moments where he did a job greatly n times where he messed up badly...he wasn't totally perfect... and thats something that made his character seem more real and genuine than naku's...(no offence 2 naku's character...i loved her bt felt she was too good to eva b true) Agree with you Yuvi..sometimes its difficult to relate with characters that are pure white or totally black. These little imperfections add to the realism.
i recall many of us questioning his ability in fulfilling his responsibilities of security...obv being the right man of dutta bhao he shud hav been mre alert...had his eyes open mre bt i gues like any normal human being der r times wer u cnt see everythings tht cumin ur way...and 2 evn expect tht is stupidity...as unexpected things do tke place...
on the whole baji was a complete entertainer...he made us laugh, smile, cry, angry etc...der was a whole load of emotions we experienced with baji... his humourous love letter writing techniques... his dimpled wala smile... his heart aching convo with dutta wen he was drunk and sed the famous "jaan ke baazi...zubaan ki baazi..FARK hai"👏 and also anger wen he like others misunderstood naku during sups getaway...so as a whole he was a gr8 character 2 watch and vinay had done a gr8 job in portraying it altho i feel vinay's chocolate boy luks at times didnt let him gt the right expression on his face...he didnt suit any angry man luk...wich the odd few times he was meant 2 shw...
i think his character was very very dif 4rm dutta's...they usually say the opposites attract phrase works best with life partners but i think it can apply 2 friends too..and the fine example is our very own duji... they wer poles apart yet had such an unbreakable bond of friendship/trust...👏 baji wasn't as serious abt life and relations as dutta was due 2 the simple fact tht he hadnt fallen in love to be deceived by his lover unlike dutta Hey, I had not thought of it from this angle.Dutta was a simple happy young man before the Keema's dhokha ... i guess tht experience changed dutta mre and the difference of personalities between the 2 became evn mre visible bt 1 thing tht didnt change was der friendship...i always thrt baji had the skill to bring a lighter and relaxed side of dutta out...der wer moments wer u saw dutta smile a little due 2 baji's behaviour...i.e. scene where baji was writing love letter 4 supriya on behalf of dutta😆...dutta smiled a few times😳... so it was gd 2 c tht despite being dutta's right hand, dey wer stil friends...having said that there was 1 particular scene wer he it seemed tht baji did see himself less than dutta... watch from 10.50 onwards..he says "hum jaise log tere liye apni jaan bhi de sakhte hai..." he mentions along the lines tht they do this becos they can see the value of their life in his eyes... tht sentence...dialogue made me feel tht in tht moment baji was talking 2 dutta nt as his friend bt as dutta bhao (master)..let me knw wt u guys think...i myt b wrong Baji always treated Dutta with reverence ..as one would treat an elder brother
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NX0a6Lfpso[/YOUTUBE]
as we all knw baji was the 1 to introduce dutta 2 this bad side...nw i remember @ the time this was thoroughly discussed and der wer 2 very distinct opinions abt it at all... personally i feel being a friend, he shud NOT hav introduced dutta 2 the crime world...it wasnt jus a bad thing to do bt it was a job tht he knw was risky and life threatening...yet he introduced him 2 it...a true friend wud neva do tht... but having said tht he stook by dutta through thick and thin and never back stabbed him 2 gt the top of the underworld, summut very less ppl wil do..he was satisfied with jus working under his bhao... his best friend... bt stil being a friend he shud neva hav introduced dutta 2 the underworld becos he knew of the dangers involved nt onli 2 dutta bt to his family too whom baji considered his own too... so no i dont think it was a right decision 2 take... thts 1 thing i didnt like abt him at the time... bt as i sed earlier there r two dif opinions abt it..and its al down 2 hw u c the picture...
i think there r other alternative ways of making money... i hate the narrow thinking that u can onli earn money by going down the wrong route...thats a very wrong statement...far from the real truth... u can remain on the right path...do things the right way...and earn lots of money... it jus requires mre hard work and honestly...its very easy 2 tread on the wrong bad during bad times bt very dif 2 tread on the right path during bad times...i guess thts the time wen a person is put to test..and sumwer duji failed 2 remain on the right path



Very well evaluated, Yuvi 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: ivy_11


Well, carrying the analogies a bit further and connecting in to a game of chess, if Dutta is the King of LTL, does it make Baji his Jigree Pooh (dostana ishtyle) 😆(I leave it to you to fill in the blank, my dear LTLians). 😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: anirka

Dhinka Chaka... Raapchik post buddy... Thank U, partner 😳

Will soon be back... with my comments...


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There is always requirement of a character in a show that gives life to the whole scene and scenario even in the tense environment... Like the one we had in Patil Niwas... Always angry and brooding Dutta... Always crying Aayi Saheb... Always mad in planning sister-trio... Baji was that character that was breath of fresh air in that tense environment of PN... A comic yet sensitive character...His comic timing was great..something to look forward too unlike the slap stick comedy in other shows.

The character of Baji not only had these qualities... he was a support and friend to Dutta... Baji was one who provided emotional security to his childhood friend as well as was relied upon by Dutta for his own and his family's physical security...Later on he provided emotional security to his Vahini Naku. Babi, Roops and even AS have confided in Baji ...because they either didn't know how Dutta would react or stress him our.

Baji is the character whose background and past was not revealed as much in the show... his family was only Dutta and thru Dutta he was somehow knitted with Dutta's Family... His smile, bubblyness, his comic characterization filled the air with some relief...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: tamanna1391

baaji is the lakshman of ltl



Very well put, Tamanna 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Ani_98

Ivy...I just love your contributions of Baji's character.👍🏼

You said it all...👏😃 Thank U, Ani. 😳. Its great to have you back buddy😃
Now about your question...I have always seen Dutta as the lion in the disney movie "The lion king". Me too. The regal golden man who is so desirable but almost beyond reach.

So if Dutta is the lion then Baji would be...I do not know...😕 Priya answers the question for us😃

But...As the king of the jungle...Baji will always be Dutta's right hand. 😃

Yuvika...I agree with you about everything you said.😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Copy pasting from Rose's Thread... 😊

When we analyse a character of the show... we do it as per our own thinking, morals and life values under which we have been brought up and we have been taught... But a show tries to reflect all the aspects of the character's life and sometimes it fails to connect the reality with their imagination required for TRPs... I am not here bringing out that there was failure in character of Baji... i want to bring to your notice the other aspect that is social...

I know that views may differ... and we can discuss it further... the view I would like to bring in front of my fellow members is raised from real life

So the question I think is abt Baji failed as a friend... and my aspect is here limited to the question raised of Dutta being introduced to underworld being a failure on part of Baji as a friend...

We haven't discussed abt the social conditions of Baji, Dutta and Dutta's family... We are not introduced to Baji's background and family roots in show... We don't know what was he taught as young kid and what moral values he was given... How he came across the underworld that even Dutta didn't know abt it... but Baji knew very well that whom he is required to meet and what he has to do ... he has only family as Dutta and somehow Dutta's family became his own... I would like to bring an example from real life... Till this age... I have come across various servants and maids and their families... And have found that most families from that section treat their kids as their manpower and earning resource... My family is against child labour and so we don't allow them to send their kids on work on their behalf... whereas none of our neighbours follow and abide by same law... I have seen same kids pick up the things from the houses and sale them to kabariwalas... and use that money in their amusement... If you complain to their respective parents... they come across with the excuse that "kid doesn't work at your place... so it shouldn't matter to you" or "bacha hi toh hai... sudhar jayega" and those house owners... they just will scold for a day and the process will restart as their work requirements are being fulfilled... And later I have seen these kids grown up into professional pickers and substance abusers...

So I mean to say that there are no moral values induced by the parents of those kids and it has been failure in part of society that those educated people didn't say no to the parents of kids that same day when first time they came to work... For me Baji is another failure on part of society...

Baji is also from a similar background... where he had no one to show him right path... May be for him earning money by killing people was not bad thing... However I haven't till date seen all episodes of LTL... But I don't think there was any remorse presented by Baji in any episode for being in this trade... However Dutta had been shown on various occasions... I believe that to Baji it didn't matter money comes which way... Only thing he yearned for a family that he looked upon at Dutta as... and for him only thing that mattered was what Dutta wanted... In a way he was a blind friend of Dutta... who complied to whatever Dutta said... I won't blame Baji for not being a true friend... as he himself didn't know the meaning of true friend... Nobody told him what is rigt path and what is wrong... Thats why he was more conversed with underworld people and business even before introduction of Dutta to underworld...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: scorpio10


Then Baji will be Timon ... Wow Priya, spot on Pal 👍🏼

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Posted: 13 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Hamlet53

What a brilliant piece of writing, Ivy! Thank U my Shakespeare friend 😳 one character that is no less than the major ones. In fact you have quite rightly said so,he compliments Dutta... I would add, that Baji shares his accolades with Naku in terms of completing Dutta as a key character of LTL1.
Your piece of text just by the mention of one name takes me through an admixture of scenarios, what a variety, an immense treat to read. The colour coding in the piece of writing,makes it easier for the reader to pick out the strands of the thread. So well done, mate.
For me Baji brought out various obvious aspects of characters in role.
For AS, he further brings out the role of a mother who is large hearted in terms of adpoting , a so to speak boy, who has no one and is minus a domestic base. She becomes the compassionate mother who gives one born of another ,the love and protection she gives her own, thus complimenting the role of a woman who mothers. Agre with you Hammie that AS is the universal symbol of motherhood in LTL she not only loves Dutta as her own son..but favors him over her own three daughters. She has showers love and affection on Baji, Naku and later on Madhu.
In Kishore, he brings out the hope that despite evil lurkings around the corridors and closed rooms of PN , some goodness still remains in the genuine transparent persona of Baji.
For, Kala, it further brngs out her negativity of inherent hate for any body who supports her brother. Baji provides her reasons to create rifts between her brother and someone he trusts and confides in. So ,yes,Baji extends Kala's character , negatively though. Great way to put it pal
For, Naku, he provides another reason for the maid to stick around PN, a place where she is treated as a second class human being due to her looks and her social status. He accepts her as she is ,and thus raises her self esteem ,by his jests and jokes; in fact he is a vehicle for her to reach out to the dark master of the household. ...what a poetic expression dor our DSP
For Dutta, Baji is all the things you mentioned. However, to me Baji also is Dutta's partner in crimes, all the dark deeds Dutta is involved in, his party to.. in aiding , abetting and executing unwelcome activities in PW. In fact, Baji helps Dutta to his gadhi of Bhaoship. So my thought for the moment is would Dutta have made it Big as the revered and feared Dutta Bhao... without Baji... Yes, Baji is what all Baji has done...the life-line link of Dutta...and LTL
xxhammie

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Posted: 13 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: mnx12

If Datta is life of LTL then Baji is soul. He can be called so because of his sincerity, his attachment for Datta & his family, whom he considers his own. I'll say there has a Baji for evry Datta. To be with him in every mode of his life.



So true, Minakshi,
Dutta and Baji...each would be incomplete without the other and cease to exist.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: daya0628

True, Ivy. I agree with everything you and the remainder of the members have posted. Baaji is a significant character in this show but more so in Dutta Sriram Patil's life. Surely there can't be one without the other. He has been there every step of the way and more importantly knows Dutta inside and out. Their comfort level with each other is that of full rights over the other. Both characters truly compliment the other...and the two together set the base for who these characters were from the beginning...he is a friend, brother, partner, companion, right hand man, comic relief...all in one package .. with added delight of dimples 😆😆 ...they are bound in a life long relationship ...whether Naku likes that or not 😆😆😆

Excellent thread...thanks !



Thanks, Daya.

IMO Duji has been under-played...this is one of the main relationship in LTL and quoting you " .whether Naku likes that or not "
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