Mishal not speaking up is hurtful - Page 2

Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Thanks for the reply Param. My replies in green.

Personally I understand completely if he saw no growth in what he was doing and wanted to pursue other goals. Seeing his TV interviews and hearing his costars talk abt him he doesnt seem the troublemaker sort so I cant believe it.

Alright...good. We are on the same wavelength here then. 😆

I agree that if he is getting into films he must talk abt them only when there is something concrete. Same applies to his next TV show if thats what he is pursuing. But personally I feel its neccessary to keep the fires in the hearts of fans burning with steady and regular news. Bollywood, Hollywood stars constantly keep fans posted on what they are up to thru facebook or twitter. Media coverage is also high on them.

I personally feel social media sites are dangerous places to be given access to, especially to fans because of the uncertainty of how the personal information will get used. There are a lot of crazy minds out there...who have nothing better to do but just sit around and use the information in a wrong manner. So from that standpoint, I am happy that his social profile access is limited/restricted. Was browsing another forum and was upset with the fact that FB messages of a celebrity, that were posted by a fan, were being used in an inappropriate manner with people taking digs at their character, at each other...mad house at its best. *shakes head*

Re: Media coverage high on them...I would term it along the lines of ridiculous, in my opinion. How much has JLo's belly grown because of her pregnancy or why is Halle Berry's engagement ring missing? Why does it matter? Why is there a need for interfering in personal lives of these celebrities be it in India or elsewhere. Media feeds us this information because we (audience) LIKE to hear about this kind of stuff. It is a true fact and this is when the endless cycles of speculations, accusations...then more speculations etc. begin.

While I am personally not a fan of minute by minute updates some celebrities provide but I would appreciate more regular updates say once in 15 days. And yes I dont mind if he justed updated saying he was on a vacation or went for a cricket match. It need not be specifically work related or related to his family or personal life(whom he is dating etc).

Frankly I would like him to take a leaf out the book of Aditya Redij who has a fan page on facebook which he updates once in a while. He is a good photographer and he keeps uploading his work. Nice way to connect to fans and yet maintain his own privacy as he never talks any personal stuff or discusses his future project. Here is the link:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Aditya-Redij/186860156634?sk=wall&filter=2

Again, I respect your opinion, Ksh. But, for me personally I wouldn't want regular updates as much as the person does not want to give them to me. You are generalizing here again and expecting something out of MR just because someone else does it. I don't believe in that. I'll stick to my stand and say this again...he is a genuine individual with his own belief system. He does what he believes is best for him. If he is not comfortable with a fan page or does not have the time commitment to do so, then I personally would leave it at that. Why judge him based on such a small thing? Aditya Redij might be great at interacting with his fans, good for him. But, if MR thinks that the same energy and time can be spent on something more worthy, I am going to give him two thumbs up for that decision of his.

Again perfectly fine if he was approached but didnt wish to return. He can say the same that "I was approached but had certain issues and will not be returning" or a "No I wasnt approached".

Again...I really don't have a problem with him maintaining his 'No Comment' stance. Might just be the weird person in me. 😆 He is very thoughtful person and if he is taking a stand on something, it must be for a better reason.

I would have been fine with his silence Param if we got some neutral media articles giving us the right picture. But that hasnt been the case. He has been painted the villian in every article without fail. On one had its hurtful to a fan to read such stuff on your favorite star on a daily basis. To Mishal himself these articles are harmful. Being a hassle free star who is committed to his work is appreciated in Bollywood and any other industry too. By keeping quiet Mishal is simply harming his own career.

IMO what he should have done is what he did when news of him returning to LTL surfaced. He gave a couple of polite interviews denying the news. The news died a natural death. If he had spoken up abt his reason for leaving LTL in the first place(in a polite manner) even rumours of his unprofessionalism would have subsided if not died down.

Lack of neutral media articles is not his fault nor something he should be worrying about. If he has been painted as the 'villain' then that's someone else's bad karma...and that will come around to that person. Being a person of faith myself, I will say this...MR's success is not bound by these false media articles and neither will affect his career in my opinion. There is a 'upparwaala' who is watching all this and what is in MR's destiny with regards to his career has already been written by that supreme being...few false media articles or people maligning his image are not going to determine his career's fate. All these ups and downs are part of life. Sensible Producers and Directors worthy of his talent will look at his acting abilities, his work NOT what the article back on 2011 typed about his character.

In your opinion you think that by keeping quiet, things are not going in his favor. What's the guarantee that by opening up about LTL, even in the simplest terms, things will work out let alone the rumors dying down? There is none! Whatever he felt needed to be let out, he did so in his interview. If there are still few mysteries that are unsolved, I am just going to let it be that way. It really does not bug me. If we are meant to know more than what we do now, then there will be a way for it and it will get to us eventually.

Why Mishal being simply 'thankful' is not enough in this case I have just mentioned. But yes I agree...expecting these answers is perhaps too much. But I couldnt help but ask perhaps for the last time as soon Mishal related chapter in LTL will be closed forever.

For me, as a fan, Ksh, that honest thank you means a lot! And I am happy with whatever acknowledgment he has given his fans.

Ksh, I think it is really up to us to decide when WE wish to close the LTL chapter forever...the news and the drama will stay alive, no matter what. We have to make ourselves strong and find a better way to deal with such petty things. 😊

Originally posted by: LuvPremeer4ever

I don't know if he has got any Bollywood films or not. But, if he has denied the rumors of movie projects himself, shouldn't we take his word for it? And if he is considering returning to TV, then he must have put some thought behind it and might have gotten couple offers...I don't know. From what I have come to realize, he is very open about his work projects, mostly stuff he is currently working on...so if and when there is a confirmed movie project at hand and things have finalized to a greater extent, I am sure he wouldn't mind sharing it with his fans.

So we just have to be patient with things...I am sure it will pay off in the future. But, on a different note...just because he is a celebrity now...why do we, as an audience, feel the need to know every little detail of his life...what is he doing now? Where is he vacationing or partying? What are his next plans? Does he not have any right to privacy? I feel as a true fan of his, I must and should respect his silence as much as his talks (can't think of a better word here 😆).

Media will always keep their priorities on top (regardless of the type of news and the substance in it) which is to spice things up for more publicity, popularity etc. Staying mum on things has created so much of a fuss regarding his character and what not...can you just imagine what the gossip media might be capable of when they actually get their hands on some information...the 'tor maror' of words they are capable of...they have managed to malign his name in his silence...I can only imagine what the result will be if they are able to get their hands on other news info.

There is saying..."Ek chup, sau sukh" meaning, one silent moment can lead to hundred moments of happiness, can save you from lots of troubles...that's what the case is for him...he has maintained his 'No Comment' stance and personally for him that might have been one of the best decisions of his life. If I was in his shoes, I would stick to this old saying as well. When we start worrying about what other's are going to say...it becomes a whole mess, one gets caught up in so many things. Duniya ka toh hai kaam tarah tarah kee baatein karna. Kis kis ka muh band karoge. It is better to shut your own mouth and let the duniya think whatever they want to...who cares, right? 😆

I understand your and other people's hurtfulness regarding his 'No Comment' stance...but we have to understand that he is an individual with different beliefs and takes on things. If he is not comfortable sharing the off-screen stuff...be it for his own good or to respect the privacy of the situation, the people...why should we indulge on this thought more than we should. We must respect his decision. The other individuals you have mentioned, who have opened up about their work, might be comfortable doing it...MR might be not. Just because others are doing it and then expecting the same from MR...I don't think that's fair/appropriate.

Originally posted by: sub_rosa

I don't know if MR has an attitude-problem...but he certainly is very dedicated towards his job...his work itself testifies to that. And then he did make some effort to clear the rumors regarding his unprofessional behavior in the wassup tv interview. But between him and Colors it's an unequal battle. So I guess he's just waiting for these rumors to die a natural death. I don't know if that's wise or not. I think MR is not very PR-savvy...he has cited different reasons for his exit on different occasions, his desire to move on and explore other avenues...his dissatisfaction with Dutta's role...somebody with an ego wanting to force him out(saas and the city) and finally this 'no comment' stance. It all indicates a major fall-out. And I think he was approached for Dutta's role a second time, at least the PH did...but it didn't materialize. And he quickly stepped forward to clear the air. I don't think he'd say anything more :)

@purple is the only thing I have irked at in this whole matter...is that Ram Milaye Jodi guy bigger than Zee? Yet he put down the rumours, clearly and openly, and came out with his stance on it. Did it harm him or his image in any way? No. Did it clear up the matter for the most part, coming from the horses' mouth itself? Yes. With MR and this amazing show, we dallied above Bermuda Triangle for 4 months Now, maybe it's just the frustration and backlash of that talking.

Originally posted by: make-believe

@ the bits in blue mainly...I don't think any actor exiting from a show is a 'personal' matter. Their reasons behind such a decision are personal. They do not have to be shared, and neither does anyone here care anymore, I think, or even want to know about them at this point when everything is already in the ground...and yet, this is strictly a professional matter: are you going to exit from the show? Is your exit being planned? Will you return to it? These questions do not require divulgence of anything that is personal...nor do they need to be elaborate in answer or made up of words that will defame others.

Re: the questions you have stated above...if we trace back to December 2010, I am sure MR wasn't sure himself of his 'exit' because his stay kept getting extended month by month. Post his exit...I agree @ the bold but what if he had restrictions imposed on him by the PH or Channel or both on the amount he can 'give away' to media? That's what I am trying to say that whatever air he cleared for us fans through his interviews, he might have thought that, that was all that was needed or appropriate given the circumstances of the situations.

If MR is open about his projects, why then was there a need for circling the issue without any concrete responses, or lack thereof, when it was time to say or confirm something about his status re: the show? You cannot be open about your 'work' and at the same time, be uncomfortable about stating a fact or something very likely in progression about that very work.

When I mentioned about him being open about his 'work', my inclination was more towards...talking about his current 'work', his character, the plot etc. of the show he is a part of as he used to do with his LTL interviews. I should have been more clear on that. It is very obvious from all the recent media drama that his stance on his 'work' projects that are in 'pending' mode will remain under the 'No Comment' section until things are very close to being finalized and till he feels comfortable enough.

This aspect of the whole situation reminds me of the question that wonders...if you don't tell the whole truth or keep some of it to yourself, is it considered lying? By that logic, by not being simply told yes or no, we were led on, by everyone involved. And that includes MR.

This really varies from a person to person and their viewpoint. Same thing with the following...Is the glass half empty or is it half full? Depends on your perspective of looking at things, right? If I was led on, by whoever that may be, personally, I would consider that my fault because I let that happen to myself. That's why I have stopped paying much heed to these media articles. And that is what I think is in my best interest.

Why does it matter so much? Because it is neither smart and nor moral to have people buying into your 'product' or carry on watching it when you know you are intentionally misleading them and one day the pretense will end. The funny thing with these people is that the pretense has ended long since, MR left the show, but they STILL tried to keep it up and fool people with their everyday shenanigans and pot stirring 👏 And they continue doing it to this day by making up things about an actor who was working for them, just to churn out articles for news and publicity which has not much to do with him anyways!

WHO are they trying to make ULLUS out of? The viewers or MR, who is letting himself be the scapegoat, or better yet both? Or have the viewers, who were hanging on for months, been made mega ullus by the channel, PH, and even MR? If MR had cleared his stance and put an end to their speculation-induced publicity, I wouldn't be asking this question by associating his name with the channel and PH, who are pretty much carved in stone for bringing matters to circumstances as such they are now.

Anyways...all talk, by me, by you, by all the rest...there will be no answers, so we would be ullus again in hoping for anything in the future or employing patience. Even so in waiting to see more of MR, anywhere, in movies, television, whatever...because patience does not get rewarded in such an industry.

Re: Patience...it may not get rewarded in this industry and don't think it ever will...but it sure does help you for your own sake, for your own piece of mind...to deal with things and move on. Yes, sitting here and being patient in the hopes that MR will come to LCL one day or in another show will be foolish on my part. And that is why...LTL is a closed chapter for me from that aspect.

I have been waiting years and months for some of my favourite actors to return on screen...doesn't quite happen. Which is not to fault them at all, because such is life...you move on, plans change, things change, opportunities change, come, and go...so when you said no expectations, I said bang on...from anyone, be it the shows, the people running them or even the ones acting in them. Maybe that's the reason why some of us as fans would have liked for MR to clarify...we had expectations of him giving us the truth at least. Didn't happen. Too bad, so sad. We'll all learn to move on, but here's a topic for saying it like it is...that MR's silence doesn't exactly make him noble in the eyes of all people, especially the common viewing audience which is not on this forum...it raises questions too.

Questions will be raised no matter what. That's what the human mind is programmed for. 😆Again the part in bold varies from person to person and how they want to view his 'silent' stand on things...if it is noble enough for them. When the 'aam' audience not on this forum can sit at homes and enjoy junk shown on Colors channel...I shouldn't be expecting them to make fair judgement on MR's nobleness, should I?