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Posted: 14 years ago
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@lizdarcy

Hi Liz,

Thank you for the lovely words, it means a lot. I will confess that I would love to emulate, sometimes, your posts steeped in pure romanticism. Our hearts do need the occasional balm as well. 😊😊

To come back to your post, we are all scared for Nakusha and it is justified too as irrespective of the "denouement" of her conversation/confessions (if any) to Dutta and his response/interpretation thereto, the fact remains that she is just not ready and never expected to ever be called upon to take Kala or any other member of the PN household at any other level but that of her relations by virtue of her marriage to Dutta. Were resolve and love ever enough to safeguard what is most important in our lives, life would be a piece of cake in reality and on the silver screen isn't it?

What is commendable in Nakusha's story is her ability to make complete abstraction of her own being (because of her undying devotion, gratitude, love and awe for Dutta) to absolve him of all his sins and place him above everything and everybody around her. You equated Nakusha to Shiv's Parvati, I am more inclined to compare her with Satyavan's Savitri who puts her life on the line to bring her husband back from the jaws of death. And that is one of the central traits of her character. As per the purohit she is Dutta's shield and irrespective of whether she has a choice or not, it is her fate (however cliched it sounds in reality) as Dutta is not just a husband per se but "her life and everything that touches it" as mentioned in the 1st paragraph of my post. She owes him, after all, for a life that a girl of her origins and "appearance" until the FR and even after for that matter, would have ever dared dream about. One may argue that, however, destitute a woman is, she does not deserve to be ill-treated, but Dutta accepting her wholeheartedly in spite of all the odds and the oddballs (Babi, Ganpath---) in her life pre PN should be motivation enough to take up the challenge and face up to Kala. She cannot be beaten by her fear, her husband's life and happiness, more than her own and her need to vindicate herself in Dutta's eyes, are at stake. So she will not fail.

I am happy that you mentioned Chanakya and Nakusha, symbolically, gulping down that "ashshake". However gross it looked at that point, it was to show that Nakusha despite all the differences and misunderstandings separating her from Dutta, has really merged her identity with that of Dutta's as per the traditional beliefs of joining two individuals fate and lives through the rituals of marriage as wished by AS.

On another note, I would be happy to see the teachings of Chanakya and his legacy to find a more positive resonance in day to day life in reality, and on the silver screen as well for a better understanding of human nature. In the case of LTL and this should reassure all those who fear for Nakusha, she has and will continue to, as per Chanakya, "learn from the mistakes of others'you can't live long enough to track them all yourselves". And in the case of Kala, she should have known, again as per Chanakya, that "The biggest guru-mantra is "Never share your secrets with anybody. It will destroy you."

And this is irrevocable. LTL is after all an e-LS. 😊

Edited by KavitaDR - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ kavita
guess, i was wrong about nakusha and her character and had set my expectations far too high.She missed the bus again today......😭..really sad and heartbroken.I think cv's twist nakusha's character as per their whims and requirements 😭 and inspite of all this they still want us to keep faith in them. SAD !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Sweet_berries,
I have not watched today's episode yet so cannot really comment. I am sure that I still need to get back to this thread at some point this week. That is one of the reasons, I set the tone for my original post with questions marks! CV's will at least never let me down as to their predictability for stalemates....
😊 Read me out later. I am sure that I will have things to say.
Edited by KavitaDR - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hmmm.....no problems....take your own time !! What i am trying to say that our speculation is valid only if they keep nakusha's character read qualities, consistent and not change them according to the demands of either the script, trp's or etc. etc. etc....Then only will we viewers, will enjoy the serial and like the character and empathize with her.

If at one moment she is a 'sherni' and the other a 'bakri' or 'gaayen', do the cv's really think we will accept this and continue watching the serial and go on as if nothing happened or is out of place......If they do so, then i think they should grow up and come to terms with the reality and not fantasize and later not cry over spilled milk.Because they must understand and respect the viewers sentiments in the business they are in and not ignore them, for we viewers definitely believe in the saying - "Once bitten, twice shy" and we have really tried and given them benefit of doubt and chances and 'lives' many a times and i think that they have had enough chances to prove themselves genuine and to correct themselves....but they have let us down again !! extremely sad !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@cute2stay
Great post! :)

"I'm not sure what to make of this promo as of now. I'm kind of two ways about it. ------
I want to see all the characters being explored. Naku needs to be this faith in Dutta's life so that he can see for himself what's good and what's not. I don't want her to do the work for him. I want him to find out about Kala on his own based on his own judgement. I want Naku to build his faith again, so that he knows who is a friend and who is the enemy on his own. I want to see her care more about Dutta's feelings than Kala's plans.

And I also want everything to come full circle. Like the DP track I mean. If Naku can clear Dutta's head, like she has been doing in the past, he can make the connections on his own I feel. He already has clues of Kala's intentions from her past doings and learning about the reality of Kala and DP will also-----"
Thank you for your comments!
I am not going to respond to all the points you raised in your lovely post but I will join you in ranting openly about the audience left short-changed everytime after a deceptive high in the form of the elevation of a character and find it trampled the nex day. It is probably how things evolve in scriptwriting.
There has been constant calls on this forum to be more mindful of the audience's expectations as to the evolution of the LTL e-LS. It sometimes works but falls prey most of the time to the quest for TRP's or other commercial requirements that we cannot understand but forced to accept unfortunately... Today is no exception and the dragfest has to carry on otherwise they cannot really be true to themselves isn't it. "And I also want everything to come full circle. Like the DP track I mean." This is just one example you and so many others have highlighted with no success yet. Loose ends galore, half-baked intrigues, God knows what else is in CV's kitty. Do they even remember....I sometimes wonder.
As to Nakusha, the plot will have to move with herself taking centrestage soon as the story has to move. The Saas/Nanad/Bhabhi angle cannot be avoided as she is a DIL. Sadly.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@kavita Dr

@lizdarcy

WOW! What great minds in both of you. Powerful deep thought by both of you. I agree with you lizdarcy on your interpretation of Chanakya in Naku and her resolve to remain undefeated. Kavita, I would also agree with your interpretation/comparison of Naku with Satyavan's Savitri. These traits has always been shown and should always be shown in future tracks for Naku. These have not been lost since LTL started, may not have been emphasized on in some tracks but was never lost, I believe. I would like to see though, this present slow track pick up pace and move into other tracks that can bring forth more of these wonderful traits I one can just imagine judging from the interpretations of N by both of you, I know that you will agree there could be many more tracks/episodes that can relate to these character traits for N to portray if the CVs so desire and can read your posts as they may not know how deep you both have delved into these characters.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Kavitha

Honestly, my analysis of the show comes nowhere close to yours. Love the way you've put it. I know, her resolve isn't enough. And she is not exactly smart when it comes to doing the right thing at the right time. I really would like to go with the others and say that Naku needn't fight poison with poison. But i feel it is necessary. Naku's gullible, and Dutta's nice. The wolves would devour them if they just stayed the way they are. And it's gonna be no fun if Naku doesn't play a role in Kala getting her due desserts. I want to see a fight, coz Kala's asking for it. And it's her ego that's her weakest point. I think it's gonna be amazing, a David vs Goliath battle. Kala's gonna die a half-death when she realizes that someone as weak as Naku has defeated her, thwarted all her plans. And this is gonna be Naku's greatest victory.

Guess what, i actually was thinking Satyavan Savitri. Changed it to Shiv Parvathy coz it seemed more romantic. Dutta's rage and Naku's calm. Plus the fact that Naku's too good for the jaded Dutta. I have always found the Shiv Parvathy story extremely romantic. Sigh. I think i totally missed your point. Let me come back to my senses, will add more then.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@lizdarcy

My pleasure. I will wait for the rest of your thoughts.....Actually, there is a second part to the initial analysis that will come later this week. Keep a watch. 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Sweet_beries
"guess, i was wrong about nakusha and her character and had set my expectations far too high.She missed the bus again today......😭..really sad and heartbroken.I think cv's twist nakusha's character as per their whims and requirements 😭 and inspite of all this they still want us to keep faith in them. SAD !! "

Hi Lady,

I can understand the sadness and I also concur on CV's predictability to drag (you cant possibly rid them of their trademark overnight....Unki yeh purani aadat hain....I would love to scream but I will refrain myself --- inteha ki kabhi koi hadh taye karna is useless for LTL fanatics).
We will not stop watching it and they know it. To come back to today's episode, I found it quite good actually as it gave us a further insight into some other elements that I had already highlighted as unavoidable in LTL as far as the saas/nanad/bahu angle. The fires will have to be set raging to snap Dutta out of his current glazed/drunken stupor despite showing sparks of momentous lucidity. My only complaint is that CV's did not etch the opening lines for Nakusha but rather got Baaji to start with Nakusha's elder sister. That was uncalled for and Dutta in sync with his character and usual detachment and inability to put things in perspective, just walked away.

Gosh, I am being the Devil's advocate here but I am sure that the story will move forward. I saw in some posts echos of rumblings that the promo for Monday 29th set on the forum, and subsequently fell flat.

That is not the case because today we saw Kala again and are aware of her intentions but today the greater shock was AS....This woman is devious, no doubt...Kala is evil and we need no reconfirmations. The one to watch is AS. She gave me the jitters today....I just cannot fathom her blowing hot and cold. Kuch to garbar hain!!!😲😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The story is moving forward yes, I think the forum is just miffed with Dutta's negativity and are dying for romance :)

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