The Selfish Chronicles... *A total rant*

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Posted: 14 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

The worst part of that marrage was Nakku;s smile , looking at Dutta in the eye when they were marrying. I want someone to answer me, How in the hell didnt that girl feel any shame in looking into Dutta's eyes and betrayl him royally?. I want to know. It hurt me the most. Her smile pierced thru my heart. Joke is she expects her saab to listen to her 🤣. When he wanted to listen what was she doing?. Aha giving milk to AS?? Ya I get it, she was so busy that she didnt get 5 mins to tell her story before marriage. She had to trash all his dreams by entering the SR room in that avtar. Dutta might forgive her but I dont think i can forgive her anytime soon. She acted like a heartless woman for the past few weeks. She deserves a huge blow on her face.

You know that's something that bothered me a lot too. I'd be okay, I think, if Nakku was shown to be in a state of constant turmoil leading up to the wedding. But kabhi she's going shopping, kabhi she's have sweet little innocent romantic moments with Dutta and kabhi she's having her haldi done without guilt even as she knows that now everyone except Dutta knows her truth. I mean yaar ye kya hai! If she was always sombre and always worried, I'd get it. But kabhi tormented kabhi care free - I don't get this attitude at all! 😕

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@ImmaculateDream

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Posted: 14 years ago

#32

I could not Hold my self back anymore.. Like i said That i will speak for nakusha but let me first make clear that im NOT BIASED towards her.. I like her AS a character and LOVE Many traits in her.. Comparatively i LOVE Dutta as a Character More...

I know FIVR she has Hurt you.... And Also U have not WAtched the episodes also .. as by reading i dont think one can get the feel of characters coz updaters tend to Miss Many points while updating which by watching we might find beautiful or annoying ....but anyways.. I still accept ur concerns and understand them because ur among those ppl who are unable to Digest the FAct of her telling him her truth post marriage at all.. no matter Whatever her reason was...

But i have to defend my point with my understanding of her Character and observations. There is no doubt That she is at Fault. no doubt at all! She had time to tell him soon after he proposed her.. AGREE.... before that she had reasons and she had even TRIED multiple times here n there... but our concern was why did she held it back when he told her clearly that he is in love with her?

let me analyze it from that point of time..

She went to him when he was steaming in his room ... with a confused mind frame. Confused ? why?? because Nakusha had never expected him to propose her? yes she saw that shine in his eyes and was clearly avoiding those looks! because Everything she had always dreamt of was coming True! she was at the top of he world yet the thought of sharing her secret made her go weak! she had never experienced that Feeling before inspite of being a brave woman! when it comes to others harming Dutta it was easy to even give away his life for HIm.. VEry easy indeed!

But now she was the one who has hid a truth from him for so long.. she would have told him when they were friends ... when there was nothing to worry abt.. as whatsoever she was living in his house as a servant forever.. he would have appreciated it back then.. but No she didn't! this had hit her several times as well and its effect was showing its colors when she was left with way but to tell him..Now suddenly with his acceptance there was a strange fear developed in her.. U know when u love someone and they wont love u back in return .. its painful but then u know ki its one sided and u somehow deals with it.... But when the same person suddenly start loving u back, The sudden happiness and a fear of losing him will take away all ur energy and strength.. thats why she reacted tht way when he proposed her... and couldn't stand there more.. but she came back as she knew him... how he must be feeling and tried to convince him,, she would have told him that day .. but he also had ot mention abt his prejudices against beautiful women .. she tried to give her point.. but she too needed someone to guide her to give her light.. baaji came there .. may be as a light as a guide ..and she had to give away her secret to answer all his questions as he was very close to Dutta and she knows that ...soon after she came to a point that whatever it takes.. she should go an tell him .. thats it

but baaji stopped her! and had convinced her...as things back at home had taken a bad shape...

Followed by some attempts from baaji and babi.. as Naksuha was still heel adamant of telling him.. there was a time when Nakusha confronted Baapa .. as she couldn't take it anymore..YES she was looking for hints from him becuase she is like that...It was nothing new or out of character fro her to take or ask from Bappa for ab absolution .. Then comes babi a,d asked her to leave it to her... TO nakusha she Like a GOD .. so there was no point of her to say anything more.. as being a mother she might have looked it from a better View then her ( this is from Naksuha's POV, im not at all supporting BAbi here! not at all) then Naksuha started to avoid him .. there was fear! guilt in her eyes which even dutta noticed and had shared it with baaji couple of times...but he NEVER came to nakusha.... wish he could.. anyways..

Then the whole DP track,... one thing i would liek to add here. As DD was asking in some post, that Why she stoopd up for his father's truth ??? why it didn't feared her then?? its Very simple.. AGain .. It was not her Truth .. she was telling constantly AS to tell him... AS dutta was going insane and demanding AS! but she chose to keep mum... inspite of knowing the consequences.. Situations were different there! naksuha also kept quiet! but she had to give it away coz If she wouldn't then dutta would have killed his own father... Taht was crucial .. and his reaction after that was admirable wasn;'t it?? She confronted him in bar! and THERE she hit the nail.. "aap ko koi kaisay apna sach bataye! Kaisay AS batati apna sach wohi hua na jisska unahi darr tha?" n i tell u It got him too! ..

By her mother's consent and her will she was waiting! .. not right to point.. she was at fault there and with the knowledge that things are going out of hand with each passing day ...It had made her immune.. but marrying him by not TELLing him the TRUTH was too Much for her! tooo MUCH! that was the point she again get a jolt and decided to tell him .. as it was ENough! and convinced her mother as well! and was going to tell him ki again .. her misfortune stuck her.. and she foind AS on her way.. Sigh! and What an amazing reason She gave to her.. Which is LAME to us! but to ppl like Naksuha .. jo Roz subah utth ker diya jalatay hain , Haath mun per phertay hain ... who take every step by the will of their god ( as their mind frames are built like that) and to a person like her .. AS stopped her by saying . sit through haldi Rasms and she will help her later.. till their it was fine...

but at the wedding day.. again.. She was caught up.. that was the limit for her!! what is she watiing for!! why is everyone stopping her!!!!! she has to tell him.. as she CANNOT start her life on a LIe? how can she.. and Again! dutta;'s Mother came to her.. and GAVE her a reason .. that it was a matter of his life or death .. ab its upto her to ... Dutta hi nahi rahay ga tu sach ka kya kerna hai ?? ( oh such cruel words out of AS's mouth ) u should have looked the way Nakusha reacted in that scene! 😭 ( like i said FIVR buhut reactions miss ker detay hain hum agar epi na dekhain) ..

It would have been really stupid If after such a knowledge ( which may sound stupid to ppl who are not superstitious) to still go with her truth...or her will... And honestly speaking .. the time had passed away long gone! it was already too late!! tooo LATE! AS shouldn't have stopped her that night when she was abt to reach his room .. Fivr u should have looked Nakusha. she was adamant! literally pleading! Pleading why?? because she just told her truth to his mother and that her hurt her too.. ..

anyways.. like i said it was too late on the wedding day anyways and with a knowledge of Dutta's life in danger she had to give in ...

It was the biggest mistake of her LIFE and she will never forgive her ... even if Dutta manages to forgive and move on ... she knew that she is cheating him .. but she has to FACE him.. she has to make sure that Dutta doesn't HARM himself! she has no other choice! and there lies her trust on her love! a test of her love... To overcome of what she did.. he can prison her to Death! thats not her concern .. and if he leaves her .. she was up for it too.. even if it pierced her soul!! and her heart... but she will Try her best! which she doing now...

SO,... she will LEARN from this fault of her..... she will again suffer his wrath . and it will make them understand both .. of where their weaknesses for each other lies... Where Dutta has gone wrong and where she was....

so her weaknesses are not something to be forgiven so easily .. that is why im happy with the proceedings now.. she has to learn .. and has to make her strong on this front!

So give her a chance... She is just a Young lady.. who has gone wrong .. but her intentions were never wrong..

@ DD

She meantioned to Dutta that she freared of the consequences.. i tell u! She was looking at him!! he was losing it... and thats what instantly came out of her mouth ..Jab hum tensed hotay hain tu baat kerni kya hoti hai aur keh kya jaatay ahin .. so we cannot justify everything from what she told him yesterday.. oh even she was at terrible state.. and inspite of knowing she deserves everything which follows my heart went to her! Ghalatiyaan kahan say kahan laaker khara ker deti hain insaan ko nahi???

give her time....😊

@GP

She has weaknesses.... but dont forget her strengths have taken out Dutta from his shell.. she has that power which no one else had .. She is imperfect.....so give her some time . she will learn from her mistakes.. it as her test from Bappa 😆 .. *sarcastic muh* With age and with such an experience she will not go wrong in future not with DUTTA at least.

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Nikita

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Posted: 14 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: shilpita87

my god....i m scared of fivr..and DD ...now..they are as scarry as Dutta when they are riled....i think..i will keep mum till these ppl calm down a bit..

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u guys are seriously darling!! Fivr ka toh I can vouch or her 1 million cells can vouch that she has a scarry murderous streak in her that comes out very often but before u can make out it goes choo!!!

but I am Miss Innocent!! Ask My Miss Universe, Fivr, she knows all about my innocence!!

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Oh yes Shilpa, if u r a CV and u had come in front of me on Sat, I would have totally mixed u with Fivr's atoms of the day!!

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LTLFan

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Posted: 14 years ago

#34

You are calling Naku as selfish. Dutta belongs to this category first and foremost. he only wants to get love not give. he will only speak his part truth and will not listen to what the other person says. Truth or love both are mutual - one should give love to get love. Truth - one should not only speak the truth, he should also listen to others, before going judgemental about it

Naku's love is always selfless. She only thought about him.

Naku proved her innocence with her love without any material proof (for the earlier accusation during the wedding prep with Supriya)

Do you think any woman will want to look ugly infront of an Man she so deeply loves. Even if she is not pretty, any girl would try to look her best. Even dutta changed his dressing style to impress Naku. but she had to come always in her soot cover before. when he was all happy and romantic.
she had to bear the pain of hiding the truth from him. Yes she did hide a truth, because she didn't want to hurt him. he is not someone who faces his problems, he tries run away from the problem blaming others for it.

He talked so much about Vishwas and Bharosa. Where is his trust? has it broken so soon. as kala herself said in last weeks episode "dutta's love is on very weak foundation".

Kala didn't have to do much to ruin his happiness. he himself is enough to ruin it. If he will not trust, will not even listen, he has no right to blame others. Naku thought that atleast he would hear her. what about Naku's trust which he had broken?

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bfunofbb123

@bfunofbb123

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Posted: 14 years ago

#35

Oh fivr i was wondering where u got to it is good to have u back but fivr i understand what u r saying at 1st most of us were against shadi before FR but beleive me just watch the shadi and mon&tue epi u will understand. after watching the shadi it made me ya it is beautiful now that they r married the FR won't b rushed & we can c the gradual acceptance. even though it is not what we expected but the CVs did not let us down it turned out good so fivr don't just go by the update watch the epi seen is beleiving seen how beautiful the wedding was u'll forget e/thing! good to have u back don't disappear dear!😉

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saakshi

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Posted: 14 years ago

#36

Fivreyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy................... ............

Missing you dear.......................

Okay.............

Coming to Topic.........

AS & Babi............. .....Dont Wanna talk anything about them......HAve already posted a thread about them & had enough............They badly need Dutta's "Angry Treatment"...............Very Very Mean Mothers.......................Just thinks about their own fears.These two are at 50% of the FAult.........................

Baaji..............Takes another 40% of Fault................"Bhao,mein tere liye apni jaan bhi dega.........Pan,sach nahi bolega..............".........😡 .........

He is definitely at Fault.............I totally agree with whatever you have said to Baaji................."BANG ON".......................

So,I am in full agreement with whatever you talked about Babi-AS-Baaji.............

Coming to Nakku...........

Here,I would say Nakku's fault is just 10%........I dont agree with you on your sentence "Nakku is selfish"............No...........But,I say she is very "Manipulative"............She thinks with heart more than her Brains.......Thats her mistake especially at that moment,where she really really need to take her decisions on her own,she listens to her Mother or anyone else..........who is less bothered about Nakku's thoughts or reasoning than their own fears..............

Nakku's mistake was when she has decided to unveil the secret,then there was no need to ask "Bappa's permission" or before asking "Bappa's permission" she wouldnt have agreed for the marriage........

Thats her mistake.........Other than that,she doesnot have any fears or she doesnot have any selfish motives or reasoning unlike AS,Babi or Baaji...............

Nakku definitely understands Dutta.But,she is such a soul that she gets her heart big & listens to everyone's fears before her own "Mann ki Aawaaz"..................Thats the reaosn,she is standing now in "Fault Zone" along with all those three "Feary trio"................

Now,My additional thought...........

Dont say,all these above are at fault & Dutta is saint...........

I say,"Dutta is also a selfish soul".........................

He wants happiness in his life.............He wants Nakku in his life as he knows she is the one who gives life to him,Loves him & understand him.........Eventhough she looked Ugly,she was beautifull for him........Why????.......Kyunki,she gave him Love & he wants that love.........If "Sups Fiasco" have not happened,would he know Nakku Loves him.........Even If he knew,do you think he would have married her or tried to accept her............I eriously dont think so........It is Nakku's "Selfless Love" towards Dutta,which made him happier .........

He was started hating "Beautifull faces"...........Did he love Nakku as she was "Ugly"????......................He once said , "Maine tera roop nahi dekha,tera rang nahi dekha..teri andar ki khoobsoorati dekha." If he has seen her inner beauty & fallen for it,then why is he now seeing that she is "Beautifull"...Why is he saying ki "She is not my NAkusha"???????????......Dont you think he is making fun of his own statements................He is also at fault now.................Dutta sees Nakku as his happiness..Has he ever wanted to know "Is Nakku happy with this" or "Does she has any problems in her life"?.When the gal wanted to speak her life...HEr truth......He is still thinking just about "She betrayed ME".................Not what her reason is.............

Dutta is alos "Selfish" here.................This can be solved only when he gets to know Nakku's struggle of her Life...........HE is not ready to listen to that also.............HE is going to repent it a "Big time"...............

Concludingly,I wanted to say ki .........Selfish to Dutta bhi hain along with Babi,AS & Baaji.........But,Nakku is not atleast in my opinion.........She is not selfish compared to all others in LTL............

Nakku is just too good for everyone around............as she thinks from the heart than brains....................Thats her mistake...............

Great post Fivryyyyyyyyyy....................

Hope to see you soon in LTL-Forum.............

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gp00

@gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: -Fivr-

Yaar I don't think that Nakku doesn't fit with Dutta - in my opinion she was a perfect fit for Dutta up until this FR-wedding fiasco happened. And since this was just a one time thing (so far) I don't think I can write Nakku off already. But until the whole FR-wedding thing came about, Nakku always been the perfect compliment to Dutta and his personality. At least in my opinion. But to each their own.. 😳😆

Oh, no, I don't mean writing her off.😆 NAKU and DUTTA are the love story around which this show revolves. What I meant to say is that my enthusiasm for Naku died pretty much after the jungle...I stopped getting her then.

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gp00

@gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

#38

There is no doubt Naku's love is great, pure. She is not selfish, in the true meaning of the word. She has been more fearful and less than bright when it came to her truth. Naku is loving, not a shred of doubt.

It is about HONESTY...how do you keep such a big lie from someone you love AND MARRY? How do you go on with a charade that you know will have to end one day, with the reveal? How can you let Dutta bask in his love for you or open himself up and even against Kala, and then reveal something that will confuse and hurt him because you did not say the truth before? This is what gets on my nerves. It did NOT need to happen this way. Everyone could have been spared some pain if Naku had exercised some personal integrity.

Edited by gp00 - 14 years ago

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spandana11

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Posted: 14 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: gp00
Why is it that we sometimes get off the issue? Or perhaps, everything is intertwined or will be....

But there is no doubt Naku's love is great, pure. She is not selfish, in the true meaning of the word. She has been more fearful and less than bright when it came to her truth. Naku is loving, not a shred of doubt.

It is about HONESTY...how do you keep such a big lie from someone you love AND MARRY? How do you go on with a charade that you know will have to end one day, with the reveal? How can you let Dutta bask in his love for you or open himself up and even against Kala, and then reveal something that will confuse and hurt him because you did not say the truth before? This is what gets on my nerves. It did NOT need to happen this way. Everyone could have been spared some pain if Naku had exercised some personal integrity.

But from beginning nakuu was a girl who does every thing what her mother says, and in this agree with sakhi Here,I would say Nakku's fault is just 10%........I dont agree with you on your sentence "Nakku is selfish"............No...........But,I say she is very "Manipulative"............She thinks with heart more than her Brains.......Thats her mistake especially at that moment,where she really really need to take her decisions on her own,she listens to her Mother or anyone else..........who is less bothered about Nakku's thoughts or reasoning than their own fears,

Nakku told the truth after marriage coz AS told her to choose one option....she chose her hubby' life over her truth,

her character from beginning like this that can not deny elders are take own decisions

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Aisha

@thornewood9

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Posted: 14 years ago

#40

Wooh.
Looks like we need some Pepsi on this Thread!
Chalo! The Queen of Pepsi is here!
*Aisha Hands Out Pepsi and Flexes Fingers*

Okay I'm going to be all Positive here! Someone has to, right?😆

Okay here we go.
*Aisha Takes Deep Breath*

NAKU

Okay. Naku. Now I know everyone is mad at her for not doing the FR before the wedding. And it's understandable. But I get it.

Naku is a simple girl. She knows how to Love and she knows how to Trust God. That is it. She herself told Jagtap that. She understands people and how they feel. She is not educated, or street-smart. She's extremely naive and yet in some ways incredibly wise.
It's the kind of perfect wisdom that you see in young and extremely optimistic people. The kind of people who have absolute Faith and Trust in God.

Now some people think that her character has been changed and assassinated. Not true.
Yes, she IS a Sherni. She has stood up to many people for Dutta and she IS Fearless in many situations but when it comes to standing up to Dutta FOR Dutta, then it's a whole different matter.

To be more clear, Naku only turns Sherni when someone else is in danger. This has been shown from the BEGINNING.
When Morey was after her she was absolutely terrified and didn't fight (example, Morey was feeling her up in front of everyone and Baabi saved her) she only stood up to Morey when he threatened her FAMILY.
Another example. She stood up to Anna and threatened him with Dutta's arrival. When Anna found out what she really looks like and was going to have a suhaag raat with her she turned into a bheegi billi.

SEE? *Aisha Points*

She has ALWAYS been like that! She can stand up for OTHER people but not herself! This is understandable. By calling her Rang a Shrap Baabi has seriously messed up Naku's self-confidence! The girl is messed up just like Dutta! She doesn't see her pretty face as something GOOD! She hates it! BAABI did that to her. She did it because she didn't want Naku turning into her first daughter! He first daughter was proud of her looks and had LOADS of confidence in them. Baabi by making Naku cover herself in Black Colour made sure that Naku would NEVER feel that way about her Looks and with Morey and Anna acting the way they did that just cemented what Baabi had already started!

Now we all know Naku is all about Truth, Justice and other stuff, right?
Well she is. And she would have told Dutta the truth as well if it wasn't for Baabi and Baji and then bloody AS.
Okay, so you say that if she was truly the Sherni that she has been portrayed then she should have stuck to her guns and told Dutta ASAP!
Okay. Let's look at that.
Here is Naku. She has this secret. She is seriously dying to tell Dutta about it. She loves the guy and she can't keep it from him anymore. She wants to tell him in fact she NEEDS to tell him.

She decides to tell him while leaving the Jungle. She's losing him already so what the hell right?
Anna comes and kidnaps her.
Opportunity lost.
Dutta comes to save her and actually SEES her! She can tell him now!
Uh no. In Anna's house? She should tell him THEN when they're in such a tense situation? Bad idea.
So she keeps quiet.
He takes her home, she realises he has started loving her and BANG.
She gets scared. Before she didn't have a problem telling him because the guy didn't reciprocate her love! Now he LOVES her and damn it he's SHOWING her!
Bloody KALA comes in the way and the guilt gets to her, she runs off and when Baji finds her tells HIM everything!
Then when she is READY Baji tells her "Wait hang on a minute. He's had a fight with Kala and she's left the house. DON'T TELL HIM YET."
Okay thats understandable. the guy is upset. Fine leave him for a few more days.
Then we got the whole DP Plot.
AS acting all suspicious and Naku gets caught up in that.
Another problem!
Dutta goes nuts, Naku calms him down, DP dies.
Dutta is upset obviously.
THEN we get MADHU. God. *Aisha Rolls Eyes*
Another problem.
Eternal reminder of DP. Great.
The wedding is coming up. Naku is determined to tell the truth and then what happens?
Baabi and Baji stop her using BAPPA. Wonderful.
Then Kala and AS find out. BRILLIANT.
AS emotionally blackmails her by saying "Truth or Dutta's Life"
GREAT choice! So Naku stays quiet.

And the on the SR she was SCARED. She KNOWS how he'll react but damn it Dutta surprised her! Did you HEAR those dialogues???
So ROMANTIC! Those words probably gave her some kind of hope! He really DOES love her! Maybe he WONT lose it and he'll hear her out!
Uh. No. Didnt happen.

I can't blame Naku all that much.
Its easy telling OTHER people something but when it comes to the one person who means EVERYTHING everyone would stumble a little.
Its not intentional. It just happens. You have more to lose. And Naku saying if she loses him then fine is all okay but thats just her SAYING it. DOING it is another matter!

Aisha xxx😉