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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

very well written DD..

a big thanks to u, sara and adi for making this point

i agree with al ur points... personally i was quite touched by dutta's gesture 2 help sethji out n indirectly naku bt the whole moment was ruined by kala's evil statements... sadly naku didnt keep the gifts n dutta was hurt by her comment abt their relationship..bt 1 thing tht we r missing is tht if dutta helped sethji thinkin from a brother's pov thn y did he say 2 naku in the room tht "this isnt the 1st time I AM giving u a present" ---if the present was from sethji why did dutta make it out as tho it was from him...thts what i found confusing.. any1 think the sme as me?

Yuvika, v good point!!
Well, naku returned the gift to Dutta and not to Sethji that implied she had considered those gifts directly from Dutta...for her, Dutta was helping her family (not just Sethji) and she didnt want her family name tarnished!!....Since those were the vibes that Naku gave Dutta, he had to speak in her language....That if u have issues with these RB gifts that YOU consider is from me, then why didnt u have issues when i had gifted you earlier!!! If the reason behind returning Sethji's gift is my hand in it, then why didnt u refuse when I had directly gifted u earlier?
Dutta wuld never show or think that the gifts were from his side, if Naku had not deemed them in that light!!...Plus, he was new in this whole world of love...he was still exploring (he still is) and was trying to make things right....make things comfortable for her as much as possible...and prior to the RB episode, he was shunned twice for his attempts to do something for her.....and hence, he wanted to know from Naku herself, that where was he gng wrong....Why was his gesture scraped this time when earlier it was appreciated!
Yuvika, It was an innocent question from a simple man, who doesnt think complicated, who works on logic and what his heart tells him to do...He is straighforward and speaks his mind....there is no diff in what he has registered in his mind Vs what he speaks.....and he expects the same reactions and stimuli from others....and hence, a simple ques with simple logic - "If the Q is about accepting gifts that somehow ends up being sourced to me, then why was the reaction diff this time, compared to previous times?"....
I hope u get what I mean....Dutta doesnt think in complicated manner that - I gave a gift earlier and tht gesture was my friendship to her but here it is sethji who is deemed as giving the gift, so, "I shldnt even think tht the gift is from me...." etc etc....the last part makes the thinking complicated.....the fact remains that in all the instances, the gifts originated from him....he was appreciated the first time, and shunned the last time....for a simple man, two diff reactions to same "type" of gestures was confusing!!! helping anyone is a good gesture then why shunned sometimes and appreciated the other...A simple man doesnt understand these complexities when he performs a good deed!
Edited by Dancingdoll - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

yh jus wish kala returned the favour..evil woman stil doesnt care..atleast roops is starting to see some sense😳

yeah Yuvika...thats very sad!!
I used to always feel that such gestures and unconditional love can soften a stone then why do they show characters like Kala, remaining stone hearted for ever?
Then I saw in my own life an example and realized that characters like Kala, have a preconceived notion....They live with that notion throughout their life and these notions, if watered and allowed to flourish since the tender age, become strong to the point of being beliefs!! And then they see the whole world through those notions...they dnt recognize the act of kindness, compassion and love.....for them, everything is trickery and plot....as "they" say, what you are, you see the world through the same eyes....bcoz they constitute of negatives, they interpret other people's reactions to be the same!!!....
For Kala, feeling and experiencing her brother's true love is impossible because she herself is void of it....She doesnt have this in herself to shower it on her brother....I mean, a woman who can attempt to kill her own son and wouldnt think twice in removing her hubby from her way, can never have love in the deepest layers of her heart....so, how would she feel or recognize the same in Dutta, Kishore or her son!!!
thats a sad truth!! 😔
Edited by Dancingdoll - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

Yuvika, v good point!!
Well, naku returned the gift to Dutta and not to Sethji that implied she had considered those gifts directly from Dutta...for her, Dutta was helping her family (not just Sethji) and she didnt want her family name tarnished!!....Since those were the vibes that Naku gave Dutta, he had to speak in her language....That if u have issues with these RB gifts that YOU consider is from me, then why didnt u have issues when i had gifted you earlier!!! If the reason behind returning Sethji's gift is my hand in it, then why didnt u refuse when I had directly gifted u earlier?
Dutta wuld never show or think that the gifts were from his side, if Naku had not deemed them in that light!!...Plus, he was new in this whole world of love...he was still exploring (he still is) and was trying to make things right....make things comfortable for her as much as possible...and prior to the RB episode, he was shunned twice for his attempts to do something for her.....and hence, he wanted to know from Naku herself, that where was he gng wrong....Why was his gesture scraped this time when earlier it was appreciated!
Yuvika, It was an innocent question from a simple man, who doesnt think complicated, who works on logic and what his heart tells him to do...He is straighforward and speaks his mind....there is no diff in what he has registered in his mind Vs what he speaks.....and he expects the same reactions and stimuli from others....and hence, a simple ques with simple logic - "If the Q is about accepting gifts that somehow ends up being sourced to me, then why was the reaction diff this time, compared to previous times?"....
I hope u get what I mean....Dutta doesnt think in complicated manner that - I gave a gift earlier and tht gesture was my friendship to her but here it is sethji who is deemed as giving the gift, so, "I shldnt even think tht the gift is from me...." etc etc....the last part makes the thinking complicated.....the fact remains that in all the instances, the gifts originated from him....he was appreciated the first time, and shunned the last time....for a simple man, two diff reactions to same "type" of gestures was confusing!!! helping anyone is a good gesture then why shunned sometimes and appreciated the other...A simple man doesnt understand these complexities when he performs a good deed!

thanks DD i defo get what u mean...n thanks for clearing my confusion... he was obv hurt by her returning the gifts and wanted to know why... and i agree he is a simple man, a very very simple minded man, i mean he didnt give a second thought to kala's meanful remarks 2 naku at the dinner table or RB ceremony until kishore and baji bought thm to attention... tht proves tht he is simple and straightforward n i agree with kala tht dutta is too bhola tht he doesn't see the traps his own ppl lay down for him... thts something jagtap dada had said too, tht he can bet dutta doesn't knw the dif between apna and paraya which has been proven 2 b tru... i think both tasha hav 2 much bhola pan which isnt good for them... lets hpe the kala incident makes dutta wiser n helps him 2 nt trust any1 blindly..except obv naku...
Edited by Yuvika_15 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

yeah Yuvika...thats very sad!!
I used to always feel that such gestures and unconditional love can soften a stone then why do they show characters like Kala, remaining stone hearted for ever? yh i used to think tht too, but these things all sound good in theory, they hav no link in reality, esp nt in todays world, ppl are 2 selfish nwadays, its all abt what "I" want and what "I" need in life, before ppl used 2 think abt one another n their happiness but nw its jus me, me and me... sad but thts the truth
Then I saw in my own life an example and realized that characters like Kala, have a preconceived notion....They live with that notion throughout their life and these notions, if watered and allowed to flourish since the tender age, become strong to the point of being beliefs!! And then they see the whole world through those notions...they dnt recognize the act of kindness, compassion and love.....for them, everything is trickery and plot....as "they" say, what you are, you see the world through the same eyes....bcoz they constitute of negatives, they interpret other people's reactions to be the same!!!....yh well said
For Kala, feeling and experiencing her brother's true love is impossible because she herself is void of it....She doesnt have this in herself to shower it on her brother....I mean, a woman who can attempt to kill her own son and wouldnt think twice in removing her hubby from her way, can never have love in the deepest layers of her heart....so, how would she feel or recognize the same in Dutta, Kishore or her son!!! EXACTLY...she didnt spare her own child let alone her step bro..thts what makes me confused abt her sisters, cnt they see tht she cares onli abt herself, i mean roops was there wen kala played tht trick with anay why cudnt she think thn tht a woman tht can put her own son's life at risk wil nt giv her own sisters a second thought, becos in this world, no1 is greater than one's own kids...
thats a sad truth!! 😔

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Posted: 14 years ago
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DD as usual great topic yeah even I thought of the same thing whn i saw the piggy bank broken it reminded me of Sethji n Naku
it was vewry sweet of you to raise the topic im glad that you did
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

thanks DD i defo get what u mean...n thanks for clearing my confusion... he was obv hurt by her returning the gifts and wanted to know why... and i agree he is a simple man, a very very simple minded man, i mean he didnt give a second thought to kala's meanful remarks 2 naku at the dinner table or RB ceremony until kishore and baji bought thm to attention... tht proves tht he is simple and straightforward n i agree with kala tht dutta is too bhola tht he doesn't see the traps his own ppl lay down for him... thts something jagtap dada had said too, tht he can bet dutta doesn't knw the dif between apna and paraya which has been proven 2 b tru... i think both tasha hav 2 much bhola pan which isnt good for them... lets hpe the kala incident makes dutta wiser n helps him 2 nt trust any1 blindly..except obv naku...

Yuvika, excellent examples, which only shows how simple and "bhola" dutta is and thats what he expects in other....Don't make life complicated, KEEP things simple.....but only if life could be so simple, everyone so straighforward....Just bcoz not everyone believes in it, he ends up being hurt all the time....
u know, I feel Dutta is more bhola than Naku...Naku atleast judges ppl right....she wuld be his sunshine.....she wuld help him sort out between who is apnaa and paraaya....soon he is gng to get trapped in a storm and then he has to sort out this difference....and thats what will get him out of the storm...a clear mind and thinking tht what and who's right and who isnt.....Naku wuld be the saviour here!!
Edited by Dancingdoll - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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awww DD. very well written. 👏 👏 👏 I never realized the similarity between sethji and dutta's characters. 😳 They truly love their sisters very much. I hope we get to see more of sethji and dutta scenes.

Thanks DD for this wonderful post. 🤗
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great post DD as always...loved ur analyis and how u connected Dutta n Sethji scenes..it was quite emotionally moving fr me as well..i was all tears...beautifully shown n felt good that we got to see this side of Dutta...

Man..is there ANY guy in real who is as good as Dutta..this guy is all heart n soul! I wish there were atleast a few in this world!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

EXACTLY...she didnt spare her own child let alone her step bro..thts what makes me confused abt her sisters, cnt they see tht she cares onli abt herself, i mean roops was there wen kala played tht trick with anay why cudnt she think thn tht a woman tht can put her own son's life at risk wil nt giv her own sisters a second thought, becos in this world, no1 is greater than one's own kids...

thats a sad truth!! 😔

Yuvi, thats the transformation that they are showing now in the sisters....They have been blind before....no emotions touched them......They were shown a fixed goal - "Dutta ko looto, dono haathoan se looto"...and thats all their life revolved around.....but now things ahve started touching Roops and I guess somewhere even Leela is getting affected.....Now, they would see the same things with more human side than artificially infused evil side!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessmithai

DD as usual great topic yeah even I thought of the same thing whn i saw the piggy bank broken it reminded me of Sethji n Naku

it was vewry sweet of you to raise the topic im glad that you did

u did Mithai??
wow...tum log superb ho yaar....
and yes, I too am glad now tht this topic was brought forward....wuld remove lot many doubts in many ppl's mind!!

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