Naku's comments to Babi were Sups-like - Page 2

Originally posted by: pardesii

I agree Zuby. Returning the gifts was one thing but her reasoning was worse. He looked pained that she had mistook his intentions. And he directly asked her if someone had caused her to feel that way since he was giving her the benefit of the doubt, that his Naku wouldn't think like that. But what does the gadhi do, cover up for Kala...KALA and claim its her family's pride at stake. Erm her family has been humiliated a lot worse when she was labelled as a traitor. Besides, if Kala or anyone else wants to claim she is a golddigger or whatever than Dutta would not take that quietly.

Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Havent seen the epi...but Naku is sounding like Sups esp with her shrinking away et al. But Dutta knows that she loves him and has an explaination of behavior as discomfort abt the class barrier between them. From Naku's side the class barrier and her skin color are stopping her from enjoying the moment.
I guess here both of them need to take a step forward. Dutta till now wanted to give her respect in front of everyone just as he disrespected her. By proposing in front of everyone he has made a move towards recifying past errors. But he must also now take out some alone time with her. Like someone said...talk to her and try to get to know about her life. Naku ofcourse must tell her secret asap now. She knows she would be miserable without him and Dutta too wants to marry her...so she must tell him and let him decide. As long as she tells him he wont consider it a betrayal.

Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Havent seen the epi...but Naku is sounding like Sups esp with her shrinking away et al. But Dutta knows that she loves him and has an explaination of behavior as discomfort abt the class barrier between them. From Naku's side the class barrier and her skin color are stopping her from enjoying the moment.
I guess here both of them need to take a step forward. Dutta till now wanted to give her respect in front of everyone just as he disrespected her. By proposing in front of everyone he has made a move towards recifying past errors. But he must also now take out some alone time with her. Like someone said...talk to her and try to get to know about her life. Naku ofcourse must tell her secret asap now. She knows she would be miserable without him and Dutta too wants to marry her...so she must tell him and let him decide. As long as she tells him he wont consider it a betrayal.

Originally posted by: pardesii

I came running to the thread after you told me about it in the other one. 😆

GP i'm totally with you on this. They highlighted Dutta observing all her awkwardness and feeling dejected that it instantly gave me a flashback of Supriya.

The only comfort is that Naku has shown in words and actions prior to this recent odd behaviour that she loves Dutta unconditionally. Thus Dutta is not too alarmed by her distance but after her revelation, if indeed he watches the Naku-Babi convo via the tapes he will realise that her hesitation was due to her secret.

Originally posted by: pardesii

I came running to the thread after you told me about it in the other one. 😆

GP i'm totally with you on this. They highlighted Dutta observing all her awkwardness and feeling dejected that it instantly gave me a flashback of Supriya.

The only comfort is that Naku has shown in words and actions prior to this recent odd behaviour that she loves Dutta unconditionally. Thus Dutta is not too alarmed by her distance but after her revelation, if indeed he watches the Naku-Babi convo via the tapes he will realise that her hesitation was due to her secret.

But THAT is my concern. I don't think it will happen in such a way, but if Dutta saw that tape and heard that limited conversation, he would--anyone would--think perhaps Naku did not want anything to do with him relationship-wise. There was nothing in that conversation that revealed her true feelings for him--her love for him, her fear of ever bringing hurt into his life, as others have done. NOTHING. Hence, the tape seems to show someone who just is scared by him.

Originally posted by: nightoffullmoon

If she can be so diplomatic with Kala, could she not return the gift graciously, telling him, his care and concern (ahem, Love? not yet) is her Gehna? Too much, huh?

Ok, how about this (more believable explanation):

She should simply tell him that Sethji should learn to earn and give, or simply give what he can afford.

That would have been the best answer. She should tell him Sethji needs to learn the value of hardwork, money, and that a brother-sister relationship does not need gift giving,only good wishes.

Dutta would have been floored: Kya Values hain, is Family ke!Mere Bachchon ko bhi she will teach integrity and good values :-)

Then our Dutta will say "Naku is ready to be a mother....NOW! Ayi Sahib, I need to get married NOW...we have some grandchildren to make". Of course, AS would feel like her dream is finally coming true!

Originally posted by: ZubyDutta

Absolutely right,gp.Honestly what's with Nakku today? Her convo with her mom reminded me too of the Sups-her mom convo abt not wanting to marry Dutta. And I was really annoyed by the way she returned those gifts saying they reek of "Upkaar" & "Daya"!This from a woman who claims to understand him better than anybody else.She of all people should have understood the feelings behind this gesture of Dutta.Dutta's bewildered & anxious expressions really wrenched my heart today. Yesterday's euphoria simply washed away & I didn't feel very good after watching the episode.

Uff! Of all the good kind hearted girls in this whole wide world the best man I've ever known has to fall for an actually "apsara" but currently soot faced confused woman!

Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

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its all kala's fault... she was a little hesitant abt the gifts n mayb wud hav returned thm in a mre pleasant way bt after kala's words i think she feels tht every1 wil think she is tking advantage of him... kala's words were reali mean, naku may hav stood upto her a little thn bt the truth is, she was reali hurt, and sumtyms in such situations u dnt think before u act n thts the case with naku n her behaviour 2day... bt i was hpin baji's words wud make her feel better par lagta hai kala's words had mre impact thn baji's...😕

Yes, Kala's words were hurtful...but I thought Naku was used to hurtful words. The show has repeatedly shown us the many humiliations...the buffalo most recently. I mean what we love about Naku is her self-confidence and her values. How is it all of a sudden that she caves in?

As much as I hate Kala, Naku's reaction cannot be blamed on anyone except NAKU. For whatever reason--convenience for CVs--Naku took it to heart. But Naku knows there is noone who could love Dutta like her. And Dutta needs her so much in his life. I'm not happy with this twist--although by next week, this will be a non-issue and we will be awaiting their wedding! 🥳

NOFM, I'm become a fan of your posts. I adore your insight and ability to succinctly put your views into eloquent words.

You've presented all the arguments that reinforce that it is high time Naku confess. Her behaviour post-Anna incident has me puzzled and frankly I'm beginning to think the CVs were trying to justify not revealing her yet as they wanted to appease the fans who want a Dark Naku-Dutta romance.

She is beginning to contradict what we already know of her as she did harbour a glimmer of hope that her love would melt his hatred and they'd be able to live a happily married life. Now when this is actually happening she is playing naive and ignorant to the signs before her. Instead she is consoling her own guilt-ridden heart that this new found care and respect for her is a form of redemption. Couple that with the lame realisation that there is a social divide and voila you have confused Naku.

Your right though. She knew about this class difference since she met him. In fact it was Babi's weapon of choice in getting Naku to snap out of her dream world. Of course even then she's say to her Aye that she knows and therefore does not have any expectations from him but if she still feels the same way than she should back her bags and leave. They are legally married but if she is going to let society dictate her relationship than she is being weaker than the sherni she is supposed to be.

She truly has not learned her lesson from the Supriya betrayal. He will not be stung by the truth but the assumptions she made about his reaction. He believes that Naku understands him and for her to make such a blatant error will make him question his own conviction about her.

Lastly, this:

Originally posted by: nightoffullmoon

Ok, how about this (more believable explanation):

She should simply tell him that Sethji should learn to earn and give, or simply give what he can afford.

That would have been the best answer. She should tell him Sethji needs to learn the value of hardwork, money, and that a brother-sister relationship does not need gift giving, only good wishes.

Dutta would have been floored: Kya Values hain, is Family ke! Mere Bachchon ko bhi she will teach integrity and good values :-)

Completely floored me. I agree wholeheartedly that would have been an apt reason. I had said in another thread that it would have been more appropriate if Dutta had got Sethji to do a job for him and he'd pay him for it so he had earned the money. Yet, Dutta is not at fault either as he is used to fulfilling the needs and wants of his family so naturally he extended the practice to his newest members.

Originally posted by: nightoffullmoon

The Class Barrier was very much present even when he married her as a punshiment. She accepted the marriage whole heartedly. And lived in the hope to make it work, after her innocence is proved.

How did the Class Barrier become such a big issue now?

They are technically, legally still husband and wife, he married her in full view of the public, like he himself said - puray riti rivaz ke saath (even if Whisky was poured into the Fire instead of Ghee 😃), they did go around the fire, wear the mangal sutra, and sindoor, etc.

Even if she thinks he is just doing it to rectify, repent and atone for his past deeds, she should speak the truth.

It will be dishonest if she continues to keep quiet. She is just brushing the real issue - her dilemma to tell or not to tell - aside and magnifying non-issues like Class, Naukarani - Saab relationship.

I guess its a issue now because now Dutta wants to move on to a real husband wife relationship. Earlier he calling her his wife was only to taunt her. And its not new that Naku feels she doesnt deserve him. She always felt so.