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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: gp00


Naku believes completely in Dutta's words--they will go their separate ways, and he constantly reminds her of it. But, being the type of person she is, wouldn't she want to rid herself of all misconceptions, her true feelings, her other truths before they separate? Essentially, free herself of anything and everything? If it were me, I'd like to lay all the cards on the table before going separate ways, just so I know I did the right thing. No more, no less.

So true GP.
I hate when ppl plan to hide things in the pretext of being Mahaan, Arey pehle Insaan tho bano phir mahaan banna. I mean she made a mistake by not telling Abt sups. Then she did a bigger mistake by not trusting Sups and howering over her as a shadow to make sure she gets married to Dutta. That in itself was what hurt Dutta the most. Then now when they are abt to go seperate ways, she asks him to trust her but without telling him anything abt her. Her true face, her relation with morey, her reasons for her behavior ..........
I have a super headache thinking abt Nakku's naivety .........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveStruck21

All of the above...I agree and disagree....everyone made many valid points.

When it comes down to it...Nakku has no right to ask for anything in return actually. She can explain, yell, shout of her love and her trust; however, like someone said...she could be on the top of the Eiffel tower, it wouldn't make a damn difference to someone who needs TANGIBLE trust. What I mean is...what has Nakku done to gain HIS trust...they started off on a bad Sups note of her hiding the truth..yes...from then on, I agree, she has shown him of her love, with her devotion to his life..however....Trust and Love do not always go hand in hand.
I can love someone dearly..however..I can still not trust them. Trust, I think, is a different facet all together. It is earned, love is sometimes freely given. I believe its time for Nakku to literally tell Dutta her side of the story with Sups from day ONE. And then Dutta can use that and juxtapose it with the current sides of Nakku he is seeing (in which she doesn't put the stuff in the tea ect). It will allow him to maybe see her in a less foggy light.
Next comes her face. I agree, she does not have a right to ask for trust, when she herself is being so misleading. If she wants him to trust/love her, then she MUST MUST MUST reveal who she is...because by the looks of things, if Dutta does trust her, she will really get bit in the *** if he finds out that she hid the truth, regardless of how intention.
I think Dutta knows that she loves him, but also, I feel that he might also think that she is more or less 'infatuated' with him, not really in love...maybe..however..this JMM track might open his eyes to how naive she really is in regards to everything....
Trust is a barrier, however, I think in order to Nakku to get past it, she needs to reveal every aspect of herself, who she is, what she stands for, what she HAS done and HAS NOT...and lay it ALL out there..and leave it up to Dutta, that way, regardless of the outcome, at least she will know that she put in everything she could...

Very well said !!!.
Perfect and thats what I feel ............she can give all her reasons and let him decide na. And when she is out there giving reasons........she better tell him everything abt herself too . Otherwise its only half the truth , that means its a bigger betrayl this time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nazia.icycool

great post anu...

earlier when we had this promo (posted by megha)when she asked him to trust her...then i had raised this thought...that i feel really scared with the word BHAROSA!!..coz she is hiding a very imp part of her from him....i then thought that this might agn put her into trouble when her face is revealed..the word 'bharosa' gave me a feeling that her face is gonna be revealed in the near future ..
and moreover..the CV's are creating a trap in which nakku herself will fall...now she is asking for trust..and only the positive side is considered here..but later she will be questioned by dutta ..woh bhi is topic par .."trust"..
trust is only something he did and was betrayed every tym he blvd ppl..so its really dofficult for him to trust her!!...

yup anu..nakku kept the secret that sups loved sum1 else..but she did it for his sake only na??..she did it for the better..she had also convinced her to stop from eloping...didnt she??she tried tried her best to make dutta's life successful..but kala joined hands with sups and made a horrible conspiracy...tho ab is mein nakku kya karegi??....

Anu :: Thats the problem Nazia ........ that she was abt to hand over her friends life in such a womans hands whom even she didnt trust. Nakku didnt trust Sups, thats why she followed her everywhere. Even the day she eloped Nakku followed her to make sure she comes back to mandap and gets married to Dutta. Now tell me do we really want our friend to get married to someone whom we dont trust? Iam telling u this whole Iam-Mahaan types of attitude from Nakku is what gets on my nerves. She thought she is bettering Dutta's life instead sent him down the drain. Poor guy how tortured he was on his marriage day ........I pity him .

i had supported dutta..and i am still supporting dutta for what he did at that tym!!...when he came to knw that nakku was the culprit..as he was assured by two men that it was nakku who did all this.. fine..but what he is doing now is wrong ya..nakku has repeatedly told him that she has not done anything!! he could see the brimming truth from her eyes..she has alays been frank and has always made it clear that she didnt do anything in the sups chapter..and dutta blvs her ..atleast70%...but dutta behavior is very insensitive !!yes it is..even tho she did so much for him..he is still blaming her for falling from the cliff..blaming her for being with him at dada's place..(he told her that agar tu nahin hoti to mein ise pehle hi khatm kardeta)..so he is making her responsible for everything that he is going thru...kyun??he is wrong here na??and nakku is ryt..dutta looks at her with a shakki nazar always..even now..so she wants an answer for that...
Anu :: Yes she wants him to trust her. But she shouldnt ask him to trust her. She should tell him what she saw, what she did and leave. He will think abt it and decide what to do next. She asking for Bharosa is a very bad thing .........which is gonna take both of them down the drain very soon......

she will soon look into the sups matter once she is outa the jungle..abhi to she cannot find a witness in the jungle na??but its good that she has already voiced her thought..she is still not wanting love in return..she just wants him to blv her..and thats sumthing she deserves..usne abhi tak wafa hi to ki hai!!😊

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Posted: 15 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy



So true GP.


I hate when ppl plan to hide things in the pretext of being Mahaan, Arey pehle Insaan tho bano phir mahaan banna. I mean she made a mistake by not telling Abt sups. Then she did a bigger mistake by not trusting Sups and howering over her as a shadow to make sure she gets married to Dutta. That in itself was what hurt Dutta the most. Then now when they are abt to go seperate ways, she asks him to trust her but without telling him anything abt her. Her true face, her relation with morey, her reasons for her behavior ..........


I have a super headache thinking abt Nakku's naivety .........



Hey Anu, my headache has been snowballing too. Take a nice walk along the Charles.
Perhaps I'm the one being naive...but I really do believe hiding negative things is anything but mahaan. What Naku did back then did NOT prove how much she loved Dutta, but rather how little she understood of his feelings and what could happen to his life if he married someone that loved someone else. She had her "happy, rose-tinted" glasses on. But, alas, it is water under the bridge and I pray that she gathers enough strength to tell him EVERYTHING. Until she does, she won't feel right inside. Like my signature says (didn't realize it when I picked it), when one pretends, the body revolts. Your own and the person you're lying too.

But let's see. Jagpat was so right about saying all you have to say. You owe yourself that--how can you minimize yourself, your feelings, your values by NOT doing so? I thank God for Jagpat...some semblence of "sanity" in that crazy jungle that is Naku's and Dutta's existence.

I cannot wait for the CVs to move this story ahead more. I love what they've done to date, and hope it does not drag too long. For poor Baji's sake. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: _Sanjana23_

I beg to differ.. :D

I haven't read all the posts yet but from how I see it Naku has every right to ask Dutta to trust her, He has been unfair to her and why shouldn't she extend her out to him.

Anu :: I cant say he was unfair to her. There were loads of proof against her at that time, so he believed what he saw. Afterall he doenst know Nakku any better than anyone in that mansion. Ya getting married to her was unfair , I agree. But then he thought that was the best way to punish her cuz she claims she loves him and he wanted to torture her using that "Love". Anyways since when did Dutta started thinking straight 😆. He is a crazy guy in his own way.


If she walks away as she planned before speaking to Jaggu.. what would have come of it??

Anu :: She wants nothing from Dutta. So no idea what she wants now by speaking up. Also she said in many diff occassions already that she didnt betray him. So there was nothing new that she did yesterday.
She would leave Dutta and he would think that she was a cheat.
Anu ::Let him think whatever he wants. Doesnt she always say that she trusts her bappa and her love will comeback if its meant to be for her? Then where did that unwavered devotion go now? There was no need for her to speak up now. She can live without it and Dutta might himself realise his mistake .Afterall truth cannot be hidden forever.I wouldve agreed with Nakku if she had a solid proof in her defence. "Looking into eyes" isnt a defence perse. Dutta might give in emotionally only to be broken later.

Yes she has no proof.. but what more proof than her looking him in the eyes and asking him what proof he has that she is a dokebaaz? Besides the letter in actual fact what proof does Dutta have to say that Naku cheated him?
Anu ::Dutta has every member of his family that he so trusts as a proof against Nakku. the two men pointed Nakku to be behind the car-blow-up case. AS , Kala said they saw Nakku talk to the two men during the well-pooja. Nakku was always behind Sups causing ppl to suspect her. Nakku was with Sups at the elopement time. Nakku loves Dutta as per Baaji Rao and Dutta believes Nakku betrayed him cuz she wanted him for her. What more proof does he want? .But is there any single thing in favor of Nakku? Nope.

About Naku telling Dutta about Sups affair.. I too think she should have told him.. BUT.. in a way she did what was best... :D
Anu :: I differ. She did what was worse in that case. She knew abt Dutta's inner turmoil. He wanted a trust worthy partner in his life. Someone who could love him for what he is and be just his. Dont tell me Nakku believed Sups was the right choice. I have to say Nakku didnt understand Dutta well and took that bad decision at that time. No friend would want his/her friend to get married to a person who loves someone else. See Nakku didnt even trust Sups .... thats why she followed her everywhere. She so suspects that Sups might not reach the mandap to get married yet thought Dutta will be happy getting married to such a woman? What should I say abt such a person. She was just trying to be mahaan thats all. See she did it for her love , but cant she see that sups too loves Mawali . So how come her love is greater than Sups's love for mawali?,

If she had told him what would have come of it? He would have punished Sups/Maavwali or allowed them to go.. then what? He would have ended up in even more anguish, pain, heartache.. and maybe never come out of it..
Anu :: 😆 Ya, but then he wouldve had a friend to cheer him up after that whole thing. But what did Nakku do instead, Threw Dutta into an abyss on his marriage day infront of his whole family and left him stranded. He not only lost his fiance he lost his dear friend too in the process. He had no one to share his pain, his heartbreak. Poor guy had to suffer so much..........

Naku not telling him and being blamed is faaaaaaaaar better than that because at the end of it TaSha are destined to meet??
Anu :: That u and me know , but not TaSha.
and Sups said that she was willing to marry Dutta after Naku's bashaan.. so say if they had married.. then something he didn't know wouldn't harm.. Naku was thinking of it in terms of whether it was better to tell or hide.. and she chose to hide. If hiding some truth to help a friend is beneficial then its not malicious..
Anu :: Her reasoning behind this was what was wrong. She thought its better to hide, but then thats what caused the trouble.

and also she confessed that she knew about the affair.. even if it was late she still told him, even though that resulted in him doubting her more but she confessed. Confession is Salvation.. :D

Naku has been on the recieving end for so long so I think maybe she feels (after been talked into by Jaggu) that if she doesn't speak now she won't get the chance..
Anu :: She spoke up at the cliff scene. That was what was needed. That was enuf . Dutta will ponder abt her later when he is alone. At the cliff she said she was innoent and she loves him dearly. All that he needed to knwo was already conveyed..........there was nothing left .


I understand from Dutta's POV, he does trust her somewhat but feels that Naku was his closest friend and she broke his trust... and once trust is lost its hard to get it back.
That day on the cliff, his eyes said it all and i am sure he believes in Naku more..and if screaming her innocence at him will help him break down that hatred then its all good.. :D

That's my view and no offence was meant by my post.. =))
Anu :: 😆 No i love reading everyone's POV. Its good we differ so that we can see the same thing in diff ways and ponder over it 😳

*phew... I can't believe i just ranted so much.. LOL*

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree Anu...the declaration at the cliff was enough...and the impact it had on Dutta was tremendous! Last night she just kept repeating herself! I hope the CVs have some good reasons for showing what they did!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00


Hey Anu, my headache has been snowballing too. Take a nice walk along the Charles.

Anu ::I dont live in the city yaar........its suburbs but ya there is merrimack near by , I normally jog in the evenings for an hr , that relaxes me warna this whole TaSha thingy and my work will eat up my small brain 😆.

Perhaps I'm the one being naive...but I really do believe hiding negative things is anything but mahaan. What Naku did back then did NOT prove how much she loved Dutta, but rather how little she understood of his feelings and what could happen to his life if he married someone that loved someone else.

Anu ::Ya we all thought she understands him but nope, she doesnt. Iam not sure if she does yet.He needs love, trustworthy person beside him not a goodlooking cheater.
She had her "happy, rose-tinted" glasses on. But, alas, it is water under the bridge and I pray that she gathers enough strength to tell him EVERYTHING. Until she does, she won't feel right inside. Like my signature says (didn't realize it when I picked it), when one pretends, the body revolts. Your own and the person you're lying too.
Anu :: I dont want Nakku to be blamed later for this betrayl so she better tell everything. More than the true face I want she to tell Dutta that she was engaged to morey and was abt to marry him when she met Dutta. Warna Kala might use it for her own benefit and make Nakku look like a goldigger who trapped morey and ran off with his money on the marriage day and painted herself black to hide from him.

But let's see. Jagpat was so right about saying all you have to say. You owe yourself that--how can you minimize yourself, your feelings, your values by NOT doing so? I thank God for Jagpat...some semblence of "sanity" in that crazy jungle that is Naku's and Dutta's existence.
Anu :: Ya he is right , its good to open up but then open up with everything on ur mind including all ur lil secrets , why hide them?


I cannot wait for the CVs to move this story ahead more. I love what they've done to date, and hope it does not drag too long. For poor Baji's sake. 😆
Anu :: U worried for Baaji and me wondering abt AS 😆 Poor woman is on diet for her ladla's sakes and he here listening to Trust-Lecture 😆

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sub_rosa

I agree Anu...the declaration at the cliff was enough...and the impact it had on Dutta was tremendous! Last night she just kept repeating herself! I hope the CVs have some good reasons for showing what they did!

Ya ecactly.
It was so pointless and not needed. I agree she rambling abt it if she had a proof in her defence. But all she has is "Look into my eyes u will know the truth" wals defence and I guess Dutta already looked into her eyes at the cliff and he already can sense she might be innocent. So that was enuf .....no need for wasting our time over this stupid reconfession and reassurance. Let Jags give out his story and leave Dutta be ........his brain will do the rest, he will think abt it and come to his own conclusion abt what he saw and what he believs in.
Nakku should learn to be silent sometimes..........
Anu
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy



Ya ecactly.


It was so pointless and not needed. I agree she rambling abt it if she had a proof in her defence. But all she has is "Look into my eyes u will know the truth" wals defence and I guess Dutta already looked into her eyes at the cliff and he already can sense she might be innocent. So that was enuf .....no need for wasting our time over this stupid reconfession and reassurance. Let Jags give out his story and leave Dutta be ........his brain will do the rest, he will think abt it and come to his own conclusion abt what he saw and what he believs in.


Nakku should learn to be silent sometimes..........


Anu



I wonder why they had to put in that scene...it must have some significance??
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sub_rosa


I wonder why they had to put in that scene...it must have some significance??

I seriously hope the convo goes a diff way today. I dont want her to be stuck at "Trust" issue and tell something new and impactful today. Warna no pt even wasiting time over it.
Anu

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