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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: LoveStruck21

All of the above...I agree and disagree....everyone made many valid points.

When it comes down to it...Nakku has no right to ask for anything in return actually. She can explain, yell, shout of her love and her trust; however, like someone said...she could be on the top of the Eiffel tower, it wouldn't make a damn difference to someone who needs TANGIBLE trust. What I mean is...what has Nakku done to gain HIS trust...they started off on a bad Sups note of her hiding the truth..yes...from then on, I agree, she has shown him of her love, with her devotion to his life..however....Trust and Love do not always go hand in hand.
I can love someone dearly..however..I can still not trust them. Trust, I think, is a different facet all together. It is earned, love is sometimes freely given. I believe its time for Nakku to literally tell Dutta her side of the story with Sups from day ONE. And then Dutta can use that and juxtapose it with the current sides of Nakku he is seeing (in which she doesn't put the stuff in the tea ect). It will allow him to maybe see her in a less foggy light.
Next comes her face. I agree, she does not have a right to ask for trust, when she herself is being so misleading. If she wants him to trust/love her, then she MUST MUST MUST reveal who she is...because by the looks of things, if Dutta does trust her, she will really get bit in the *** if he finds out that she hid the truth, regardless of how intention.
I think Dutta knows that she loves him, but also, I feel that he might also think that she is more or less 'infatuated' with him, not really in love...maybe..however..this JMM track might open his eyes to how naive she really is in regards to everything....
Trust is a barrier, however, I think in order to Nakku to get past it, she needs to reveal every aspect of herself, who she is, what she stands for, what she HAS done and HAS NOT...and lay it ALL out there..and leave it up to Dutta, that way, regardless of the outcome, at least she will know that she put in everything she could...



nice thoughts ..

But the thing is, she isn,t Actually asking for his trust.. She "wants" him to trust .. but there is a thin line between asking and wanting a thing! she was more on Venting out What she Wants..Which isn't wrong in anyway i think in the current scenario, look at Dutta even he is commanding her specially when he himself said that their paths will part once they get out of this jungle then why does nakusha has to keep listening to him ??.. and im sure if its not her imagination .. she will just put forth her Point and leave it him .. "begging" is not what Naku was doing. apart from that we are yet to watch the whole scene ...

as for her real identiy .. well she has been skeptical on that front, even she cant wait to show it to him .. but it might cause problems for her as someone pointed out here that it may cause him more pain .. And The Man is not ready to believe her on any grounds from her POV then Will he understand the reason behind her ugly get up??? to her ... this is not the right time ...which is fine for me as well.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22
great post anu...

earlier when we had this promo (posted by megha)when she asked him to trust her...then i had raised this thought...that i feel really scared with the word BHAROSA!!..coz she is hiding a very imp part of her from him....i then thought that this might agn put her into trouble when her face is revealed..the word 'bharosa' gave me a feeling that her face is gonna be revealed in the near future ..
and moreover..the CV's are creating a trap in which nakku herself will fall...now she is asking for trust..and only the positive side is considered here..but later she will be questioned by dutta ..woh bhi is topic par .."trust"..
trust is only something he did and was betrayed every tym he blvd ppl..so its really dofficult for him to trust her!!...

yup anu..nakku kept the secret that sups loved sum1 else..but she did it for his sake only na??..she did it for the better..she had also convinced her to stop from eloping...didnt she??she tried tried her best to make dutta's life successful..but kala joined hands with sups and made a horrible conspiracy...tho ab is mein nakku kya karegi??....

i had supported dutta..and i am still supporting dutta for what he did at that tym!!...when he came to knw that nakku was the culprit..as he was assured by two men that it was nakku who did all this.. fine..but what he is doing now is wrong ya..nakku has repeatedly told him that she has not done anything!! he could see the brimming truth from her eyes..she has alays been frank and has always made it clear that she didnt do anything in the sups chapter..and dutta blvs her ..atleast70%...but dutta behavior is very insensitive !!yes it is..even tho she did so much for him..he is still blaming her for falling from the cliff..blaming her for being with him at dada's place..(he told her that agar tu nahin hoti to mein ise pehle hi khatm kardeta)..so he is making her responsible for everything that he is going thru...kyun??he is wrong here na??and nakku is ryt..dutta looks at her with a shakki nazar always..even now..so she wants an answer for that...

she will soon look into the sups matter once she is outa the jungle..abhi to she cannot find a witness in the jungle na??but its good that she has already voiced her thought..she is still not wanting love in return..she just wants him to blv her..and thats sumthing she deserves..usne abhi tak wafa hi to ki hai!!😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
#23
Very well said Anu👏 Precisely my thoughts on Nakku's past & present handling of such situations that you've so succintly put up here.
Time's running out so are all opportunities to disclose so many facts of her life. She should gather her wits about her do something or she'll lose this man forever😔
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Posted: 15 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: ltl_fan

I agree with the discussion that enough has been saidand now thetime hascomefor some action. Nakku needs to ask Dutta to put on his thinking cap and investigate the allegations. First of all she should remind him of the same question that he asked those guys who helped in placing the bomb that from where would she get so much money. The other thing is she should tell him the events that transpired in the room where it was decided by his Tayi that Nakkushould accompany Sups to the beauty parlor. She should also remind him to research whose car was used that day as the driver seemed to know the whole plan. She should also tell Dutta of how she had caught the two escaping on the night when the dancers came. Dutta should then recall that there was a lady in the linewho had a veil and was very hesitant in taking the gifts from him. She should tell Dutta that maybe Sups took revenge with her for making it hard for her to escape.She should tell him that if Sups was really thankful for me helping her then why would one disclose the name of the person helping you in a letter. Hopefully this should at least convince Dutta to question the credibility of what appeared to be the truth that day. Can't Dutta bhao track those two guys down again and make them disclose the real identity of the person behind the bomb explosion and fake body.




ya u are absolutely ryt..great thoughts...
but agn is it nakku who should be doing all this???dutta should also take an initiative na??..i mean he is DSP yaar!!ye chhaan been use karni chahiye!!...
nakku is doing all that she can do to gain his trust now..it is dutta who should inquire abt all this ..ab nakku niwala bana kar to dutta ko nahin degi??abhi its tym for him to DO sumthing!!
taali ek haath se nahin bajti..nakku did her part..its tym for him to do his..wake up dutta!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#25
I beg to differ.. :D

I haven't read all the posts yet but from how I see it Naku has every right to ask Dutta to trust her, He has been unfair to her and why shouldn't she extend her out to him.
If she walks away as she planned before speaking to Jaggu.. what would have come of it?? She would leave Dutta and he would think that she was a cheat.
Yes she has no proof.. but what more proof than her looking him in the eyes and asking him what proof he has that she is a dokebaaz? Besides the letter in actual fact what proof does Dutta have to say that Naku cheated him?

About Naku telling Dutta about Sups affair.. I too think she should have told him.. BUT.. in a way she did what was best... :D
If she had told him what would have come of it? He would have punished Sups/Maavwali or allowed them to go.. then what? He would have ended up in even more anguish, pain, heartache.. and maybe never come out of it..
Naku not telling him and being blamed is faaaaaaaaar better than that because at the end of it TaSha are destined to meet?? and Sups said that she was willing to marry Dutta after Naku's bashaan.. so say if they had married.. then something he didn't know wouldn't harm.. Naku was thinking of it in terms of whether it was better to tell or hide.. and she chose to hide. If hiding some truth to help a friend is beneficial then its not malicious..
and also she confessed that she knew about the affair.. even if it was late she still told him, even though that resulted in him doubting her more but she confessed. Confession is Salvation.. :D

Naku has been on the recieving end for so long so I think maybe she feels (after been talked into by Jaggu) that if she doesn't speak now she won't get the chance..

I understand from Dutta's POV, he does trust her somewhat but feels that Naku was his closest friend and she broke his trust... and once trust is lost its hard to get it back.
That day on the cliff, his eyes said it all and i am sure he believes in Naku more..and if screaming her innocence at him will help him break down that hatred then its all good.. :D

That's my view and no offence was meant by my post.. =))

*phew... I can't believe i just ranted so much.. LOL*
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Posted: 15 years ago
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guys.........i agree n disagree at some points......
first of all.......naku has tolerated a lot though being innocent..........so she has every right to express his wants to dutta.......i dnt think naku is begging for dutta's trust.......she's making it clear to dutta that.......she doesn't expect her love or to accept her as wife..........she only want his trust as a friend like before........n him mistrusting her hurt her so much.......
secondly........naku proving his innocence.......how could she prove her innocence.........she is trying to tell dutta her side of story from very wedding day.......it is dutta who's not ready to hear her or believe her......dutta felt she betrayed him.......he punish her by marrying her.......now he realise she's innocent.......he's letting her go..........where is naku in this.......as if what naku thinks n wants doesn't matter to him........he never ask her.......he himself decide........so this is the time to make dutta realise that he can't always force his decision on her.........she has every right to show dutta the mirror........
thirdly.........about naku's beauty.......i agree naku is doing a big mistake by hiding her beauty.......but if u see in naku's perspective.......does she hav a choice........if she'll show her face n ask dutta for trust.......they he'll again blame her.......she's using her beauty to woo dutta.........he's not ready to hear her reason n understand her pain.........dutta needs time to fall for naku.......then nly he can understand the pain n trauma she has undergone........morever naku dnt expect dutta to accept her as wife........she just wants to part away as friends n without any misunderstandings..........so she doesn't want to hurt him by showing her face......
this is my views........no offence.........
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Posted: 15 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: sunshine21

hi Anu,

I agree with u that naku should not go around begging for trust...but i feel we must cut her some slack...love and trust go hand in hand...you cannot love someone without trusting them and nor can you have someone love you without their trusting you.
Anu :: I totally agree with u , but then since when did Nakku start expecting things in return for her love?. She doesnt want anything from Dutta, he is like that moon in the sky in whose light she wants to shower but never posess it .........so why does she want him to trust her now?. To eventually break it again , isnt she?, Iam fine with she wanting him to trust her actually. Natural human tendency but then is this the right way for it?. She asking for it and he giving it to her blindly without any proof..........just by blindly believing her words?. I dread this very own situation here. He might give in and start believing Nakku because he actually thinks she is bolibali. But then imagine when the truth abt her face comes forward, it will infact take Dutta into a deeper pit and turmoil..........I hate to watch that situation. That thought itself is so painful .........I will not be able to take it.
And that is what she desperately wants from dutta ...to trust her again and then eventually love her....
Anu ::Nope she doesnt want him to love her. She never wanted him to love her ...so I dont think this is what is on her mind ....atleast uptil now.
if you recall the scene she actually wants him to trust her again just as a friend and not even in the hopes of his love...
Anu :: Yes she wants him to consider her as his friend and trust. Well and good, but then as a friend , as a wife shouldnt she tell her complete truth before asking for trust?. She is his wife, no matter what anyone might say. Being a wife its her duty to tell her hubby everything abt her. It effects him and he has every right to know abt it. If she wants him to trust her she better tell everything .........otherwise she should just shup up and move on silently. Let him take his sweet time realising his mistake.
She just wants him to believe in her love and realise that a girl who loves him so much could never betray him coz its just not in her nature..She also tries to defend her actions and make him realise that he was wrong about her by saying that if the girl he loved turned dhokebaaz then whats her fault? she ran way and left naku to face the music and he called her dhokebaaz...which is a really good point ....coz all said and done it was Sups who was the real dhokebaaz , who didin't love dutta and did run away with her lover....
Anu :: Yep, this one I like, This is what she should do. Reason out the facts and tell him what happened at that time. Leave him with it. He will do whatever it takes to decide if he needs to trust her over the Sups fact.
All she wants from Dutta is understanding and respect, she does say in the precap....why do you keep looking at me like i'm jhooti , dhokebaaz, ....so that shows her need to be treated with respect and not as dirt.....
Anu :: She infact lied to him. Hiding truth is no less of an offence. She has her reasons for it but then that doesnt deter the fact that she hid something pivotal from Dutta. He needed to know that.She didnt tell him. She is his friend and she wants good for him .........so what does she do ?she keeps an eye on his fiance and tries to get them married......WOW. This girl doesnt trust Sups , she suspects Sups might run away if she isnt looking , but then wants her friend to get married to such a girl?. I totally hated that behavior of Nakku's. If she herself couldnt trust Sups how did she expect her friend to have a happy married life with such a woman? How can she not understand that? She claims she loves someone irrevocably but yet believed Sups when she said she will leave her mawali and get married to Dutta. Nakku is naive, she was betrayed for that and she inturn betrayed Dutta's trust .......... Dutta trusted her more than Sups, but in the end he gets to know that she hid truth from him. No wonder he turned violent.
As for Naku not being exactly trusting herself , esp about her face, I think her reasons for that are valid...As in one of the previous epi , she tells Babi that if she reveals her real face now, dutta and the world will automatically assume that she is trying to do so to gain his love and attention by hook or crook...and that is something she doesn't want...as it isn't true...she never expected Dutta to return her love or marry her and even now she doesn't want him to love her fjust for her physivcal beauty..she wants him to accept her because he truly loves her ..inside and out....She also knows that either ways she's doomed coz if she reveals her face now , he will still feel that she's trying to entice him with her beauty and will hate her for that which is quite the possibility....the only hope is that he will understand her reasons and give her a chance to explain when the time comes( with More most probably)....As for dutta...
Anu :: Ya i for myself dont want Nakku to reveal her true face yet. Its not the time, but its not the time for her to go beg for trust either. If she is asking for trust she better tell him the truth and if she thinks its not the right time to show her face then she better not ask him to trust her. Simple !!!.
I also believe that dutta himself has come to some realisations....that Naku is innocent as he himself says that Naku kaa bholapan mujhe le dubegaa.....so he does believe now that naku is too trusting and innocent and does not have the cunning to execute the plan of escape..I tihnk he will now start to think in terms of Naku being a pawn than a player.....I also believe he will be forced to acknowledge atleast within his heart that he does love naku though I don't think he will admit it as yet ....All depends on what happens after their return to PN.....
Anu :: Dutta has a faint bit of idea that Nakku cant betray him. He does think she is naive, thats why Nakku should leave him to be , so that he can take his sweet time and realise the fact that Nakku was not behind Sups case. If Nakku goes and asks for trusts it will be a diff matter and if Dutta himself gives in and strats believing its a whole diff matter. I want it to be the later case .
So pls lets give poor naku a break......and gadha some moments to ponder over things...
Anu :: 😆 I want nakku to take a break 😆. She better not blabber something which might tighten her noose later. As for Dutta, I want him to sit thru and think thru ........thats gonna help. But he needs to do it on his own, not cuz Nakku asked for it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: ccolaco

I agree with the point of Naku proving her innocence with some proof but I dont agree that she should reveal her true face before asking trust from Dutta.

Anu :: But thats the problem here both of them go hand in hand. She cant ask for one before revealing the other. If she cant cuz of her valid reasons, she better dont ask for trust. Its gonna take her into a deeper mess..........and Dutta will cry tears or blood if he gets to know she betrayed him yet again.
Hiding her true beauty is not a big betrayal in comparison to wat Sups and the first girl did.
Anu :: That depends on the way this truth is gonna come out. I dread the wortst, Kala might use it as her weapon and trap Nakku yet again and imagine Dutta's condition when that happens. He will literally die of pain.....Poor Guy
And if Dutta loves her truly then I dont think he should care much if she is black or white. Dutta has never ever commented on her color like others in PN. He has shared his secrets, his friendship for wat Naku is frm inside and not frm outside.It should be like a bonus for him that his love turned out to be good-looking instead of ugly duckling😉
Anu :: But then at that pt its not just gonna be abt her color anymore......it will be more than that. Kala might use it for her benefit ....and create a scenerio that Nakku wanted to betray Dutta. She might let Dutta know that Nakku once got engaged to Morey ......or something and this might anger Dutta. Cuz Nakku hid that truth from Dutta. Dutta actually doesnt know anything abt Nakku's life and npw that they are married he has to know everything abt her. Alright what if Kala creates a scenerio saying, Nakku married Morey for his money and betrayed him after marriage escaped from him after looting his money and to hide she colored herself black. Now how abt that? Wont that kill Dutta ?.
But seriously guys i dont see anything wrong in wat naku is doing right now. She is not hiding her beauty on purpose, she knws if she reveals it now Dutta may feel she is doing it to get his love and that could hurt dutta more than any betrayal and would never love her back.
Anu :: I dont want her to show her true face , but then I dont want her to say anything to Dutta either. She be silent and leave. She confessed lot of times, told Dutta that she didnt betray him a lot of times. He knows it all.
CV has already portrayed in front of us why she is not revealing her beauty now and also made it clear many times that she doesnt expect anything from Dutta. Yeah if Naku wanted Dutta's love and then hiding the secret could be wrong frm her prespective but rite now Naku's view is that she doesnt want his love at all but only his trust and the old days that they spent as friends (when Dutta shared his secret). She just wants that attitude, that respect, that treatment towards her back from Dutta. So when she doesnt expect his love and want jst his trust why should she tell him about her beauty secret. If 2morow he starts loving her and accepts her as his wife and then too if she hides it then yeah it could be a betrayal but rite now wen she jst wants to be good frnds like b4 then i dnt see any wrong
This is wat i feel. No offence plz
Anu :: No we love everyone's POVs and iam glad u had ur views written for us. Loved reading them.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: gp00


I agree that Naku's only desire or expectation is that Dutta trust her friendship and love for him. But secrets and secrets, and even a small one can damage a relationship that does not have much of it because of suspicions or past.

In retrospect now, ANY secrets that Naku keeps is a big betrayal. Her reasons are not selfish, that is for sure, and I think Dutta will realize that too. But it is his relationship with Naku at this point in his life (after Seema, living life of a don, her being his only "true friend") which makes it even more remarkable. Hence, it would hurt him very deeply that Naku to this day kept something from him. So even if Naku doesn't expect anything from him like love, if she wants his respect and friendship again, any little thing kept from him can set their relationship back.

This is also just my opinion, so please don't think of it as anything but that. But I do not like the idea of Naku's beauty being like a bonus prize for loving for the right reasons. I hope the CVs tread very carefully here, because I find it very amusing. Why? Because it won't matter to Dutta one bit. Rather, it might freak him out temporarily.

And if Naku wants to be friends with him, based on trust, and this happens, she's got to be nuts to think he would not take some offense to her hiding her face from him. It would be a very short-run friendship. It's as if she is dooming it from the start.

I'm looking forward to the story unfolding, but just as Dutta is realizing his mistakes, I hope Naku does too.

EXACTLY!!!.
What is the pt in such a friend ship which is doomed from the start?. She doesnt realise that does she?. She is being naive thinking that Dutta need not know abt her true face before she asks him to trust her again.
No secrets between them should be the policy for a healthy relationship........Dosti ya pyaar that should be the moto.
Nakku earlier had no reason to tell Dutta abt her life......she didnt matter him. But now she does, she is his friend, wife, love and what not.......so its her duty to tell him everything. Not only abt her color but also abt the whole Morey track. She infact was abt to marry Morey. Think abt it , what will Dutta feel when he gets to know abt it later. Today she shouldve told him abt her life first then cleared the MUs in Sups case and left Dutta to ponder over her and Trust her.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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This discussion is turning out to be a virtual page turner!
Anu, well said. Naku's naivete amazes me at times and I waver often between whether she is bold or dumb. Can't tell some times. I like Naku, I will like her more when she uses some common sense, says everything she wants to say (including her face and the reason for hiding it), and walks away from Dutta. Let Dutta make his decision. I will NEVER doubt that when Dutta comes back for her, it will be for the right reasons--that he misses her, loves her AND not her face. I don't need the CVs to prove to me that he can love an "ugly" girl. It doesn't give me a tingly, oh the world is so great and fair feeling because the underdog, the unlikely ugly one, has come ahead. It's a love story, not a social statement. And plus, Dutta already loves her in his own way.
Edited by gp00 - 15 years ago

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