Justification of Ravi and Supriya's actions...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Okay before you lot start a Baarish of Chapals on me 😆 Hear me out. 😛

So we have started to see Ravi and Supriya being baddies (Ugghh I so prefere Mawali and Dragon Lady but I'm trying to keep a seriousness to the topic but don't think I'm good at that since I'm always taking things lightly! 😆😳 Whoopsie 😳😆)

Anyways as I was saying, Ravi and Supriya (have become full on vamps) but forget the Vamp factor for a while...try not to let this affect your reply...
My question is:Do you think their love justifies their actions? The big game plan that they have started to carry out, do you think its right because they are doing it so they could be together, for love? 🤓
Now I know that we all know about Dutta's past betrayal and we know that this will not go down well with Dutta, which would obviously make most replies (even my own) biased, but I want you guys to keep your bias views on one side and look at this as a whole, try not to be too judgemental or biased at all!
Ravi and Supriya are doing this so that they can be together becaue they love each other dearly, so does it make it alright for them to decieve Dutta this way?
Beacuse if the roles were swapped, by this I mean Dutta and Nakusha being in Ravi and Supriya's place but in a positive avatar and the guy Nakusha was getting married to a was a negative character, would you still hate them for decieving the other person?
I think I highlighted a valid point above, I really want to know how you would feel about this justification.
BTW did changing the negativness of the characters and turning them in Dutta and Nakusha had an affect on your answer?
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Your defo going to hit me with your chapals now 😆 because in my opinion everyone has a right to love and marry the person of their choice, and if deception is used by Supriya and Ravi, just so they could run away together, it would make it right in a way because Supriya wasn't given a choice, her parents said yes without her complete approval, imagine being in love with someone but getting married to someone else, it would totally destroy a person...if using another person to be with the one you love is the only way, then I think most people would take it!
I mean with Dutta and Nakusha if they were in that situation OBVIOUSLY I would have totally supported them but in a way I support RS too...(eewwww can't believe I just said that) 🤔
(PHEW how hard was that for me to type uff, all I kept think about was Dutta Dutta and Dutta! 😆 It was so hard to restrain myself from being biased, now I feel bad )
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I feel sups character in maun vrat was quiet justified...she had no guts to say no to her parents but she couldnt reconcile herself to marry a gangster esp since she's in love with another guy...so she maintained her distance from datta. plus she was too scared of his moodiness.
but i dont think datta would have ever done what ravi is doing...he wud have looked at the 3rd party in the eye and claimed his love. ravi is behaving like a pimp...encouraging supriya to play with another guy's emotions...when actually he has no guts to fight it out if required.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: maybe-just

My question is:Do you think their love justifies their actions? The big game plan that they have started to carry out, do you think its right because they are doing it so they could be together, for love? 🤓
Ravi and Supriya are doing this so that they can be together becaue they love each other dearly, so does it make it alright for them to decieve Dutta this way?
Beacuse if the roles were swapped, by this I mean Dutta and Nakusha being in Ravi and Supriya's place but in a positive avatar and the guy Nakusha was getting married to a was a negative character, would you still hate them for decieving the other person?

BTW did changing the negativness of the characters and turning them in Dutta and Nakusha had an affect on your answer?
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Chalo jab pooch hi liyah hain...😆

Okay you are talking about the whole All's Fair in Love and War right? And that's why you see what they are doing as justified in a way. But here's my problem. I don't see them as being in Love. I mean really. When have we seen ANY kind of Love between them? And today's episode doesn't count. (Even that was just... strange. It looked more like he was congratulating her on her acting, as though he was a proud teacher not a lover😕) We haven't seen any reasons for WHY they love each other and more importantly we haven't seen any EVIDENCE that they love each other! We've been told that is all.
But let's say for arguements sake that they ARE in love. Are their actions still justified? In one word: No. And believe me when I say this is not my Bias speaking😆 I mean if we look at it logically there were loads of other options that they could have turned to.
  • Supriya could have told her parents about her Love.
  • If Supriya couldn't tell her parents she should have told Dutta AND she had opportunity enough to do that!
  • Okay so say she was scared of Dutta and her parents well then her boyfriend could have told her parents!
  • If he was scared of the parents rejecting him and the whole drama he could have told Dutta himself.
I mean her boyfriend acts as though he isn't scared of anyone or anything including Dutta himself. He claims to love Supriya, if that's true then why can't he stand up and declare himself for her to her parents or Dutta? I just feel that there were other options that WERE NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION before they leapt to THIS Option.

Now to the swapped characters situation. What if it was Dutta and Nakusha? Or at least a positive couple? See here's the thing. If you have to deceive or lie or cheat people for Love then I don't believe that that Love is worth it. Love is not selfish. To be with someone you love is important but it is not so important that you hurt others in your aim to be together. People who TRUELY Love each other know that in some situations to let each other go is the only way to go. But this option is only when there is NO OTHER OPTION LEFT.

Whereas I can't see this being the ONLY option to Supriya and her boyfriend.
I mean when Supriya elopes she is going to be not just hurting and humiliating Dutta and his family she will also be hurting and shaming her OWN family. And eloping wouldn't even be needed if she just TOLD SOMEONE about her true feelings!

Plus she is DELIBERATELY setting out to trap Dutta emotionally She is playing with someone's FEELINGS and she's doing it because she has judged Dutta to be an unfeeling monster.
Eh hello? Who gave her the right to judge anyone? She hasn't even attempted to get to know Dutta. She knows NOTHING about him. She's prejudiced! She is BIASED. And she doesn't even have a good reason for being that way! I mean Dutta TRIED to talk to her, he tried to get to know her, when he realised that he may have spoken too harshly with her he tried to make it up to her by buying her a gift. He has gone out of his way to understand her and know her feelings. He only backed off when the rejection with no explanation became too much for him to handle. And now she's doing a huge 180 turn? She is raising his hopes again? Readying him to be hurt once more?
Love brings people together but it should never have to hurt people in the process otherwise it is a weak love. And thats the kind of "love" I see between Supriya and her boyfriend. A weak love.
As for Dutta and Nakusha being in that Scenario, well, Dutta and Nakusha would not be in such a situation unless they had tried all the other options first! Dutta isnt the type to sit still and keep quiet while the love of his life is being married of to another guy. They have totally different personalities to Supriya and her boyfriend. They would react in a completely different way.

In conclusion: Supriya is a conniving heartless stupid selfish blob along with her MawaliLafungah and Dutta is too good for her anyway.

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Aisha: I agree...today sups bf looked like a proud teacher and sups looked like such a "P". may i gag?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gag away I will join you🤢

I just HATED that Terrace Scene today I swear the saving grace was definately the End Scene between Naku and Dutta☺️ It was everything that the Terrace Scene was NOT. It was Honest, Pure, Full of Warmth, Humour and most importantly LOVE.😍

And tomorrow we get to start the Episode with a continuation of that Scene!

But I hope we don't get more Supriya and her MawaliLafungah Romancing Scenes🤢 Varna Mood phir say karab kardein gaye

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Supriya has done such a u-turn on datta...and she seemed so fake that i'd be surprised if datta gets taken by her act. c'mon if someone did that to me alarm bells wud start ringing in my head. and datta is supposed to be this very smart guy. or is he dumb when it comes to women...u know seema, sisters, supriya etc etc.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't know but I think maybe Alarm bells WERE ringing in Dutta's head during that Terrace Scene🤓
First he seemed taken aback when she touched him TWICE and even when she had that FAKEcoughing fit🤢 He seemed to look as though he wasnt sure to believe it or not. Especially when she made that crappy promise to him he turned fully to look at her and looked almost shocked.

I was screaming LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! when she was talking all her bakwas

Aisha xxx😡
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Posted: 15 years ago
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yes ur rite...datta didnt looked convinced at all. but u know they play with mishal's expressions all the time...u can never tell either way what datta is really thinking from mishal's expressions unless datta is actually talking.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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It's really late here and I'm really sleepy - but I had wanted to answer this before I went to bed. I might come back tomorrow morning and edit this to make it more legible! 😆

But honestly, I don't think ANYONE is justified for lying/cheating there way out of something for the sake of love. We live in a world were we are brought up with love stories of people who died happily after proclaiming their love! Yes they are all stories, but that's what we set as a standard for true love. Keeping that in mind, it is NOT acceptable to lie and call it love - that's cowardice not love. And "pyaar kiya toh darna kya" tells us that love isn't afraid!

Also, if she didn't want to marry Dutta there were at least 10 better options that Supriya and Ravi ignored before they settled on the "let's-emotionally-betray-the-groom-just-because-he's-a-don" plan! Aisha already listed them all so I am not going to go into them. But I do agree. there were were ways to get around this - to be a "man' so to speak and deal with this head on.

And lastly, if Dutta ever came up with this plan I'd shoot him myself. The entire plan is based of the false notion that Supriya's being confined in Dutta's home. The security is FOR her protection - the primary out of that being RAVI himself - so how hard would it be for him to take her out of the house on the pretexxt of "shopping" or "walking" or some other jazz (especially since he IS her bodyguard)? If they really wanted to run away, this "playing-with-Dutta's-feelings" plan was NOT needed. The door was wide open - this is an unnecessary complication thanks to Ravi using his brain. (Can I call him mavali now please?!). Just because a guy isn't into a profession you approve of doesn't make you better than him and it certainly doesn't give you the right to decide if his heart and emotions are expendable.

This is a very very unnecessary, heartless and cowardly plan - if Tasha ever did this, evil or not, I'd quit the show! Because that's when I'd know that the creatives have lost their grasp of the characters and the "reality" that they so accurately portray currently. *touchwood*
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Posted: 15 years ago
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hey..that was a good question....but actually i think..that mawali is bhau's enemy..and is just tryin to USE sups..to hut dutta...if he was really a MAN..then he would have spoken to dutta..confessing his luv with sups..but he is not actually behaving like a MAN..he is being a coward..and getting things done with sups....remember how he told sups yesterday..."ab tum agar dutta ko khane mein ZEHER bhi dedo na to wo khalega"...these words of his made me think what he is actually planning 4??maybe that mawali will coax sups to marry dutta and harm him later....😔
i dont think that phasaoing dutta in this way will get them out of trouble....as it will bcome more difficult 4 them to elope🤢
and yes..i cant even think DUTTA taking that mawali's place...the 2 are very different by nature...dutta is a straight forward guy...and that mawali is a coward🤢
what say?????
NAZIA

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